WTF does "woke UK" mean?I’ve been saying, and will continue to say, Mitch hiring Pope was a middle finger to BBN for criticizing his leadership and decision making over the years!
He was always going to put almost zero effort into replacing Calipari, and that’s exactly what happened. Now our direct Blue Blood rivals are about to set themselves up for years to come, while woke UK and its vocal minority, get their participation trophy wish, and bring back Pope for what’s setting up to be the most disastrous season since Sutton left, and I’m not counting the “Covid” season because of the historical outliers involved.
"Alphas"....Hiring coaches is also recruiting. Does anything think Mitch in his sweater vest and khakis and goober buzzword generation is going to sway alphas like Hurley? The guy is as easy to say no to as Pope is.
You certainly weren't the only one with that "WTF" reaction, and you weren't the only to be suckered in with 96 team getting off the bus inside Rupp Arena at the introductory press conference. I'm part of that club as well.
Someone said in another thread that Blevins was strongly opposedJP Blevins and Jeff Sheppard pushed for the hire hard also.
I've been saying nothing will really change until Papaw Capilouto finally leavesWeakness starts at the top. If we had a stronger president then either the search would have been different or Mitch would have been shown the door for it or the other crazy things he did. UK needs a house cleaning.
Exactly. We all said hell no that night. We were correct.You don’t even need hindsight. It was pretty clear from the start that Mitch botched it.
What’s happening now is exactly what everyone thought would happen on the day the Pope hire was first announced two years ago. We later tried to convince ourselves that it was a good hire purely out of wishful thinking and false hope. But it turns out our first instincts were correct.
When people brought up his name as a replacement for Calipari I laughed and then was furious when he was hired. I went to his pep rally and took the bait. Now I'm back to furious, but trying to convince myself that his entire career was actually just a huge asterisk and he is somehow going to be a blue blood level coach next season.We all bought in with the press conference. We didn’t have a choice.
The worst part for me is knowing my gut reaction to the hire was correct.
Kentucky top brass seems pretty conservative compared to other universities so I never got the “woke” accusations. There’s a reason the “woke” UK teachers freaking hate the president. Mitch tries to shove religion into a public university and Pope is a Mormon who are usually quite conservative. Hell, they didn’t even allow black people into their temples till freaking 1978. And people wonder why any black kid would want to be coached by those freaks. If you don’t think Pope’s Mormonism isn’t hurting with recruiting, I have a bridge to sell you.What was "woke" about it?
When people brought up his name as a replacement for Calipari I laughed and then was furious when he was hired. I went to his pep rally and took the bait. Now I'm back to furious, but trying to convince myself that his entire career was actually just a huge asterisk and he is somehow going to be a blue blood level coach next season.
Barney blew it in 2007 when Tubby left there’s no down my mind 100% he should’ve gone and hired Rick Pitino. I mean, the guy belonged to Kentucky. The part of the problem is that Barney puts all these freaking restraints on himself he wouldn’t go and take a coach from Louisville. He always has looked out for his reputation and it’s killed our program. People talk about well. What would happen if Rick Pitino would never left in 2007 was very freaking busy. I wasn’t paying attention to what was going on but now that I’ve been able to kind of look and see that of what the environment was I can’t understand why we didn’t hire Rick Pitino why was Barney so hell bet on hiring a coach who beat pitino? Barney and his team of influencers kind of pitted big blue nation against Pitino. There was never anything to stop him from coming back and it made all the sense in the world to hire the guy. He wanted to be here the greatest coach of all time wanted to be at the university of Kentucky after he realized he made a terrible decision to go to the pros and Mitch Barnhart, who had the ultimate opportunity to bring this guy back instead hired a drunk because he beat him in a round of 32 game to get to the Suite 16. Again that was 2007. There was no shady Pitino at the time it was just rivalry garbage. But by playing the rivalry crap Barney was able to get away with bypassing the greatest coach of all time college coach.Regardless of what you think about Pope, look at the ineptitude of that search:
1) First target was Scott Drew who has been a total disaster the last 2 years. Rejection made UK look bad.
2) Then went to Danny Hurley coming off 2 national titles. Was obviously going to say no to anyone. Again, made UK look bad.
3) Couldn't wait a few extra days to speak to Donovan though there appeared to be some interest based on reports at the time.
3) Refusal to look at other, more qualified candidates such as Oats, Pearl, May, Lloyd, etc..
4) Hired Mark Pope THREE DAYS after Cal left.
5) Absolutely no creativity or imagination whatsoever in the candidate search.
Just complete and total ineptitude that has only become more clear over time.
Man those lifetime contracts and like $40 million buyout for stoops when averaged like 6 wins a year lol horribleBesides the JMi deal lmfao. What BS.
I was stunned when Pope was announced as the new coach. Stunned and dismayed. However, I bought the dog and pony show press conference and bought the entire bill of goods. Now I'm back to being dismayed. Mitch absolutely screwed the pooch.
Barnhart is the worst P5 AD in the country.
It was a masterful piece of propaganda for certainA lot of us fell for it.
Truth is, he has been pretty awful since getting blown off the court by Ohio State in his first season.
Yeah, no end to BBN misery.Regardless of what you think about Pope, look at the ineptitude of that search:
1) First target was Scott Drew who has been a total disaster the last 2 years. Rejection made UK look bad.
2) Then went to Danny Hurley coming off 2 national titles. Was obviously going to say no to anyone. Again, made UK look bad.
3) Couldn't wait a few extra days to speak to Donovan though there appeared to be some interest based on reports at the time.
3) Refusal to look at other, more qualified candidates such as Oats, Pearl, May, Lloyd, etc..
4) Hired Mark Pope THREE DAYS after Cal left.
5) Absolutely no creativity or imagination whatsoever in the candidate search.
Just complete and total ineptitude that has only become more clear over time.
More than you know. Do you know how much USAID money UK got? I'm tellin' ya, there are possibly hundreds of millions being siphoned away by the top guys. And we won't know who did what for decades.Weakness starts at the top. If we had a stronger president then either the search would have been different or Mitch would have been shown the door for it or the other crazy things he did. UK needs a house cleaning.
Man Bruce Pearl retired September 2025. Not April 2024.The hire was Pearl and that’s according to 2 people that would know, specifically 1 who would definitely know. Money Pearl wasn’t coming to Kentucky. He retired to take it and boosters pushed hard, Mitch killed it by going to the BOT and President and they gave him what he wanted. Drew was who he wanted which would have been a terrible hire. Hurley wasn’t even a thought he already knew it was no and went right at Pope.
Run his *** out of this state.
According to a man that is very gracious and has for sure the way to know, 100%, not debatable, they were hiring Pearl and he wanted it and Mitch killed it. I’m not debating him, he’s a heavily involved booster that I met by sheer luck and he’s incredibly on the money. Sounded like the father son SEC duo and getting a ship was in pearls wheelhouse. Mitch refused and wanted to make the hire this time and was allowedMan Bruce Pearl retired September 2025. Not April 2024.
I'm not saying anything about all that. You stated Pearl retired to take the job, but he just retired a few weeks before the season started 9/25According to a man that is very gracious and has for sure the way to know, 100%, not debatable, they were hiring Pearl and he wanted it and Mitch killed it. I’m not debating him, he’s a heavily involved booster that I met by sheer luck and he’s incredibly on the money. Sounded like the father son SEC duo and getting a ship was in pearls wheelhouse. Mitch refused and wanted to make the hire this time and was allowed
Another reason I believe it is because Matt, after I was told this, said he went to bed thinking it was definitely Pearl and he spoke to some guys who are contributors. I didn’t know that until way later when I was told that. And I’ve shown a few guys here what the guy does for me so you can believe what you want to believe obviously, but I do private some others and they’re aware of the access. So keep on it makes no difference to me.
People just say woke to mean "thing that I don't like"Kentucky top brass seems pretty conservative compared to other universities so I never got the “woke” accusations. There’s a reason the “woke” UK teachers freaking hate the president. Mitch tries to shove religion into a public university and Pope is a Mormon who are usually quite conservative. Hell, they didn’t even allow black people into their temples till freaking 1978. And people wonder why any black kid would want to be coached by those freaks. If you don’t think Pope’s Mormonism isn’t hurting with recruiting, I have a bridge to sell you.
I said at the time the longterm success of the program was more important than having a coach hired ASAP to hop in the portal and salvage the next season. If we got Donovan a week later and he had to pick a team from the leftover bin, maybe year one is a doozy. But you would feel good about year two and beyond. Presently we felt good about year one, but are worried about year two and beyond…Regardless of what you think about Pope, look at the ineptitude of that search:
1) First target was Scott Drew who has been a total disaster the last 2 years. Rejection made UK look bad.
2) Then went to Danny Hurley coming off 2 national titles. Was obviously going to say no to anyone. Again, made UK look bad.
3) Couldn't wait a few extra days to speak to Donovan though there appeared to be some interest based on reports at the time.
3) Refusal to look at other, more qualified candidates such as Oats, Pearl, May, Lloyd, etc..
4) Hired Mark Pope THREE DAYS after Cal left.
5) Absolutely no creativity or imagination whatsoever in the candidate search.
Just complete and total ineptitude that has only become more clear over time.
And sadly many fans were completely on board with having the “anti-Cal”. And that also includes being incapable of recruiting players and finishing better than 5th in the SEC.Barnhart was hell bent on hiring a 180 degree shift from Calipari to show who was the “boss”. He hated Cal. The fans were just collateral damage.
This board was pretty vocal about players returning , sick of OAD, and it being about the name on the front. When Pope took down the NBA pictures people loved it.And sadly many fans were completely on board with having the “anti-Cal”. And that also includes being incapable of recruiting players and finishing better than 5th in the SEC.
He’s botched almost every search he’s been directly involved in. Billy G, Joker, Stoops(not horrible but not the best), Pope. He was not involved with Cal and had very little influence on Stein. His contract extensions are even worse. Stoops and Cals contracts were the most BS thing he’s ever done.