Listening to Field of 68 and Dauster says what I was thinking. Bring in Vandy's Byington and also bring in Tyler Tanner.
Davis led the Heels to the championship game four years ago. Two seasons ago, UNC won the ACC, got a 1-seed and Davis was named ACC Coach of the Year. A couple seasons later, and he's out the door. But UNC is right. Sometimes you can just see the writing on the wall, despite recent success.
UK will honor Pope's 3-year contract and then most assuredly fire him after next season. I wish they could see the writing on the wall and save themselves the trouble.
Exactly. Pope is clearly going to be fired. There’s no way around it. He can’t recruit, he’s got no success here. The ship has sailed, he’s bombing. UNC is showing how you look to trejectory and make a call based on all information. Imagine if Pope went to a title game in year 1, won the SEC, and got a Coach of the year award.Davis led the Heels to the championship game four years ago. Two seasons ago, UNC won the ACC, got a 1-seed and Davis was named ACC Coach of the Year. A couple seasons later, and he's out the door. But UNC is right. Sometimes you can just see the writing on the wall, despite recent success.
UK will honor Pope's 3-year contract and then most assuredly fire him after next season. I wish they could see the writing on the wall and save themselves the trouble.
Yeah, Pope had 3 more losses in those 2 seasons starting with zero players. But, Pope had 3 tournament wins to Davis wining zilch in the tournament. Oh wait, UNC won a play in game! LOLHilarious, he did better than Pope throughout the last two seasons, yet Pope gets his third year, we’re irrelevant.
Mitch lowering that bar. He knew Pope wasn’t going to kill it he saw his bad history when he hired him. Give the impression that a sweet 16 is success and flash that 96’r. And a bunch of people were absolutely going to bust out their Indiana “back to back sweet 16’s you can’t fire him” routine. It was coming you know it was lol.He has 4 years remaining from right now. It was a 5 year contract with one extension for getting to the Sweet 16 last year.
The year after the NC game, UNC didn't play at all it in the post season. Then, they went to a S16 and then had 2 straight first round exits. That is 4 years of not living up to standards FWIW.Davis led the Heels to the championship game four years ago. Two seasons ago, UNC won the ACC, got a 1-seed and Davis was named ACC Coach of the Year. A couple seasons later, and he's out the door. But UNC is right. Sometimes you can just see the writing on the wall, despite recent success.
Yep, you're right. Thanks for the clarification. Just looked it up. Davis also has four years left on his contract. And he's out.He has 4 years remaining from right now. It was a 5 year contract with one extension for getting to the Sweet 16 last year.
Yeah, Hubert beat their arch rival in a final four, coach K's final game. Lost in a runner up game. And he's still likely to be let go. Why? Because first and second round losses are unacceptable at programs like UNC and UK. UNC fans on their boards are all in agreement. I was kinda shocked reading their 247 board. Nobody bringing up weird math to say, UNC isn't actually that elite, because they had a stretch here that they didn't do much, nobody going "NoRtH CarOLina stANDArDS", nobody saying he's a former player we cant do this, nobody saying he should be held onto because injuries, nobody saying he should be held onto because the runner up, and nobody trying to disparage the UNC program to prop him up. Just all in support that, that's not UNC basketball, and he needs to go, former player or not. It's kinda surreal the difference. Fans who want to protect the program's status vs a civil war of UK program fans and parasocial Pope fans on here.Exactly. Pope is clearly going to be fired. There’s no way around it. He can’t recruit, he’s got no success here. The ship has sailed, he’s bombing. UNC is showing how you look to trejectory and make a call based on all information. Imagine if Pope went to a title game in year 1, won the SEC, and got a Coach of the year award.
You’d have some calling the fanbase insane for wanting him gone. They’d keep him 10 years based on that alone. There are some serious issues with this program both in fanbase and administration. Maintaining a blue blood means you flat out don’t accept this. Period.
Ah man that would blow. I swear our AD is so stupid.Listening to Field of 68 and Dauster says what I was thinking. Bring in Vandy's Byington and also bring in Tyler Tanner.
Exactly, just wanted to say great post! You summed it up perfectly. Sad I have zero hope in our administration to make the needed and bold move.Exactly. Pope is clearly going to be fired. There’s no way around it. He can’t recruit, he’s got no success here. The ship has sailed, he’s bombing. UNC is showing how you look to trejectory and make a call based on all information. Imagine if Pope went to a title game in year 1, won the SEC, and got a Coach of the year award.
You’d have some calling the fanbase insane for wanting him gone. They’d keep him 10 years based on that alone. There are some serious issues with this program both in fanbase and administration. Maintaining a blue blood means you flat out don’t accept this. Period.
That’s over now besides a couple trolls. Even the die hard “patience “ posters or wait till the end of the year guys who defended him all year are done after yesterday. That’s how you know his days are numbered. If you get the group that still supported him after all the nonsense of this year, he’s done soon. There will be so much pressure next year.Yeah, Hubert beat their arch rival in a final four, coach K's final game. Lost in a runner up game. And he's still likely to be let go. Why? Because first and second round losses are unacceptable at programs like UNC and UK. UNC fans on their boards are all in agreement. I was kinda shocked reading their 247 board. Nobody bringing up weird math to say, UNC isn't actually that elite, because they had a stretch here that they didn't do much, nobody going "NoRtH CarOLina stANDArDS", nobody saying he's a former player we cant do this, nobody saying he should be held onto because injuries, nobody saying he should be held onto because the runner up, and nobody trying to disparage the UNC program to prop him up. Just all in support that, that's not UNC basketball, and he needs to go, former player or not. It's kinda surreal the difference. Fans who want to protect the program's status vs a civil war of UK program fans and parasocial Pope fans on here.
UNC wouldn't have two buyouts to budget for. UK would have Stoops (35mil) and Pope (20mi), also, Capilouto recently said that the University has to tighten their budget.Yep, you're right. Thanks for the clarification. Just looked it up. Davis also has four years left on his contract. And he's out.
Mitch had to hurry up and go to that sham seat. He wanted to be AD two more years, but even he recognized where this was headed. Mitch has done this long enough to see Mark can’t do this. Likely thought with the NIL he’d be able to buy recruits and the brand would elevate him. Well no, not a guy like Mark who’s got no success in 10 years and a bad record. So he probably said the NIL will handle recruiting for him, not realizing Mark has never been a good recruiter at all and it won’t help other than fielding a team who can make some tournaments.Are we so sure that pope will be gone after next year if we continue the way we are?? If Hill gets the AD job, do you really think he’s going to let him go??? I can’t see Hill doing anything other than what Mitch tells him to do, guilt by association but I cannot see a reason to think Hill will not be Mitch’s puppet.
Yea some of these guys are just nuts. I’m not even understanding a lot of what they’re saying. Cherry picking to make UK sound average so they protect a bum head coach. Never seen that before.Yeah, Hubert beat their arch rival in a final four, coach K's final game. Lost in a runner up game. And he's still likely to be let go. Why? Because first and second round losses are unacceptable at programs like UNC and UK. UNC fans on their boards are all in agreement. I was kinda shocked reading their 247 board. Nobody bringing up weird math to say, UNC isn't actually that elite, because they had a stretch here that they didn't do much, nobody going "NoRtH CarOLina stANDArDS", nobody saying he's a former player we cant do this, nobody saying he should be held onto because injuries, nobody saying he should be held onto because the runner up, and nobody trying to disparage the UNC program to prop him up. Just all in support that, that's not UNC basketball, and he needs to go, former player or not. It's kinda surreal the difference. Fans who want to protect the program's status vs a civil war of UK program fans and parasocial Pope fans on here.
Well said. 1000000000000% true.I absolutely hate UNC but this is the correct move. Davis is a horrible coach. Even with all of our blowout loses the last two seasons losing to him at home is the most embarrassing to me.
The key to know whether you need to fire your coach is simple. Who would hire them? I don't see any P5 school hiring Davis. I don't see anyone hiring Pope if hes fired either.
I can think of a real easy way to free up 4 million rn....UNC wouldn't have two buyouts to budget for. UK would have Stoops (35mil) and Pope (20mi), also, Calilouto recently said that the University has to tighten their budget.
And yet MH gets rewarded with a nice new title and huge salary. Him and Eli must really like each other.Ah man that would blow. I swear out AD is so stupid.
Goodman reported that Hubert really didn't even want the job to begin with.Well said. 1000000000000% true.
Ah man that would blow. I swear out AD is so stupid.
Big fat NO to Oats, Golden, Drew, and Pearl. Each has way too much baggage.Watch them get Nate Oats and he’ll kill it there.
That’s an interesting name with Mike Malone. I didn’t think about him. Any idea when you guys will make an official announcement on Hubert Davis?Big fat NO to Oats, Golden, Drew, and Pearl. Each has way too much baggage.
Too many good coaches out there with no baggage to settle for a slime all.
I'm guessing we'll hire TJ Otzelberger or Mike Malone.
People keep hinting it might come today but I don't know.That’s an interesting name with Mike Malone. I didn’t think about him. Any idea when you guys will make an official announcement on Hubert Davis?
You ok with a former NBA coach as opposed to a college coach?People keep hinting it might come today but I don't know.
Mike Malone has been spending a lot of time in Chapel Hill watching his daughter play volleyball.
This is why UK CBB is knocking on Death’s Door! But hey, all the woke participation trophy goons will be giddy AF, since they will have something to self identify withHilarious, he did better than Pope throughout the last two seasons, yet Pope gets his third year, we’re irrelevant.
I mean, how many NBA championship winning coaches have ever even coached in college? He's analytics driven, plays a fun style, and would probably do a good job selling recruits on the NBA dream.You ok with a former NBA coach as opposed to a college coach?
Pope has kind of soured some UK fans on the 'He's analytics driven'. LOL!I mean, how many NBA championship winning coaches have ever even coached in college? He's analytics driven, plays a fun style, and would probably do a good job selling recruits on the NBA dream.
His first year in Denver was also the first season of some 2nd round pick from Serbia who was criticized for being fat and slow. Malone has to get some credit for developing Joker from the 8 points per game summer league player into the 3 time MVP.
He also was an assistant in college before leaving for the NBA.
There's no surefire options outside of Brad Stevens, and we know that isn't likely. I just don't want to hire some sleezeball. I think I'd be happy with Malone, Otzelberger, Lloyd, or Dusty May. Otz has the cheapest buyout. Malone doesn't have a buyout at all.
Only if you pay no attention to CBB as a whole. Almost every top coach is analytics driven.Pope has kind of soured some UK fans on the 'He's analytics driven'. LOL!