if this is true $7-$ million- then you know players don't want to be at UK. Hell, we couldn't lure a coach here. UK had to settle on Pope. He was most likely the only coach that wanted to be here. Pretty Sad.
What motive does Lendeborg have to lie about this? Does it benefit him?
They've been talking about him since the end of last year. What else you got?1. Everyone is talking about him and this.
ExactlyHe would then be targeted by all the so called media ten times harder. He has to be tactful with his comments. He gets his point across. And to me clearly calls BS on this
They've been talking about him since the end of last year. What else you got?
yeah, that was poorly worded on my part. I was only intending to say that if he did lie, this is possibly why he would do that.Um, your last sentence said, " nobody knows why he did it but people do this stuff All the time."
Sounds like an answer about, no?
Oh, IDK...to drive up his number if he comes back...to drive up his draft stock....to get Michigan to give him more than UK in what was likely a close bid....Its not Rocket Science BroWhat motive does Lendeborg have to lie about this? Does it benefit him?
What’s the harm in calling the kid out here, respectfully at least. It’s not like he’s going to play here. A comment such as “yeah we made him what I thought was a really nice offer to play here but unfortunately for us he chose to go elsewhere. Not sure where the 7-9 million figure came from as that is not what was on the table but it was a substantial amount he passed on, but 7-9 million? Not even close.” See that’s not hardI liked Popes statement here... he basically said dont believe everything you hear without directly calling the kid a liar.
I like the idea out there that Kentucky does offer that much ridiculous money for the goofs that actually believe it, whoch should be nobody... but if the next Anthony Davis comes along, I hope he thinks we pay that much.
Yes, some of they are in fact in this thread. You can go back to threads last year and see your claim is a lie.You're not that stupid. No one was talking about him here nor near as much anywhere as they are now. If you don't get that he's saying something to make himself look good and get even more attention, no one can help you.
Are "they" in the room with you now...?
Why would he come back? He's a senior.Oh, IDK...to drive up his number if he comes back...to drive up his draft stock....to get Michigan to give him more than UK in what was likely a close bid....Its not Rocket Science Bro
1, 2 and 3...He didn't know how he would do this season lol. I get you hate Pope man, let it all outWhy would he come back? He's a senior.
He is already a potential lottery pick. 1st round at worst.
The bidding ended last summer. Why lie now?
Yeah, you didn’t personally attack him. He said that same crap to me before, when I did no such thing. Fact is, he just dislikes Pope and has from the beginning. It’s really weird, how some of our fans have this mindset. Also, he was always a Cal nut hugger. Idc what he says.Lol...how many people have personally attacked on here. I didn't even do anything but call to attention your ability to comprehend what you read, which again was showcased with your response. You do way worse....way worse.
What’s the harm in calling the kid out here, respectfully at least. It’s not like he’s going to play here. A comment such as “yeah we made him what I thought was a really nice offer to play here but unfortunately for us he chose to go elsewhere. Not sure where the 7-9 million figure came from as that is not what was on the table but it was a substantial amount he passed on, but 7-9 million? Not even close.” See that’s not hard
Tactful? I didn't hear anything tactful at all. Pope did everything but answer the question. Why not just be truthful? He could have said yes or no.Exactly
? We never offered anyone, and I mean seriously offered anyone but Drew and Pope. You really think Hurley was given serious offers? He literally can’t leave he just won back to back at UConn, the area he and his wife are from. He wouldn’t leave unless it was for the NBA. If Barnhart made an offer it was simply lip service to pretend he was looking at great coaches. He wasn’t.if this is true $7-$ million- then you know players don't want to be at UK. Hell, we couldn't lure a coach here. UK had to settle on Pope. He was most likely the only coach that wanted to be here. Pretty Sad.
Bingo. This is the correct answer.I don’t have issue with this deflection.
Confirming it would be a bad look for him and the school.
Calling the kid a liar would be worse. A middle aged man who works exclusively with college age kids can’t outright call a college kid a liar and attack the kid’s character and expect to build future good relationships with other college age players.
Yep. The guy is a serious ******* and has been for a while.Yeah, you didn’t personally attack him. He said that same crap to me before, when I did no such thing. Fact is, he just dislikes Pope and has from the beginning. It’s really weird, how some of our fans have this mindset. Also, he was always a Cal nut hugger. Idc what he says.
He can’t rebut it. Seriously. He can’t say “this player everyone knows I recruited, he’s a liar.” He can’t. He’s in an absolutely impossible situation. He said everything short of that he could. He called on responsible media to investigate and report. He cannot openly call a form recruit a liar.Kentucky's Pope sounds off on Lendeborg's claim, doesn't rebut it
Thats the headline. Someone please get Pope some media training lol.
No, he straight up cannot. Some of you are complete dipshits. This wasn’t a media outlet reporting on rumors. This was a former recruit outright stating numbers. You want Pope to directly call him out as a liar? Do you ever want us to get a recruit? Pope can’t do that. He can’t. It would be suicide.It is pretty simple. Pope answers with a yes or, a no.
Tactful? I didn't hear anything tactful at all. Pope did everything but answer the question. Why not just be truthful? He could have said yes or no.
Yea just speak plain truth and the issue is resolved. Speak riddles and now AP is doubling down on their story.What’s the harm in calling the kid out here, respectfully at least. It’s not like he’s going to play here. A comment such as “yeah we made him what I thought was a really nice offer to play here but unfortunately for us he chose to go elsewhere. Not sure where the 7-9 million figure came from as that is not what was on the table but it was a substantial amount he passed on, but 7-9 million? Not even close.” See that’s not hard
Just speak plain truth. It is easy for most people.At this point it doesn’t matter how Pope responds to anything fans are going to have a problem with it because he is struggling right now .
Winning cures everything . Disappointment keeps people constantly criticizing him no matter the situation .
I think the variance was the NIL part from the actual advertising they do. I think the guarantee is the low end. So if you are Pope and you didn't do it just come out and say you didn't. Problem is he probably lied to other agents and players about what they could do so he would be proven to be a liar if he came out and defended himself. Why else can he not answer the actual statement made.If someone offered you 7 million would you say they offered 7-9? If they offered 9 million would you say they offered you 7-9? It’s clearly a nonsensical BS claim.
Wait there are people that liked his response
That was terrible lol. Man the media sees him as a soft target and they know he’ll get clicks. Pope just gives it to them.
This guy is about to get ran out.
Retired for the job? Come on bruh. He just stepped down 6 months ago? We never offered anyone, and I mean seriously offered anyone but Drew and Pope. You really think Hurley was given serious offers? He literally can’t leave he just won back to back at UConn, the area he and his wife are from. He wouldn’t leave unless it was for the NBA. If Barnhart made an offer it was simply lip service to pretend he was looking at great coaches. He wasn’t.
Drew was his pick, when that didn’t work the boosters went all in on Pearl. Matt Jones has contacts that confirmed this and before he did a couple of guys connected said it very clearly. They wanted Bruce Pearl and so did many in their circle.
Matt went to bed thinking it was Pearl. I thought it was Pearl for like 5 days. The guy retired for the job most likely. Mitch kills it and goes for Pope who is a control hire. Kentucky could get much, much better coaches than Pope. It’s a blue blood program that makes you absolutely famous and rich lol.
Correct. Anybody saying different is not paying attention to the facts.? We never offered anyone, and I mean seriously offered anyone but Drew and Pope. You really think Hurley was given serious offers? He literally can’t leave he just won back to back at UConn, the area he and his wife are from. He wouldn’t leave unless it was for the NBA. If Barnhart made an offer it was simply lip service to pretend he was looking at great coaches. He wasn’t.
Drew was his pick, when that didn’t work the boosters went all in on Pearl. Matt Jones has contacts that confirmed this and before he did a couple of guys connected said it very clearly. They wanted Bruce Pearl and so did many in their circle.
Matt went to bed thinking it was Pearl. I thought it was Pearl for like 5 days. The guy retired for the job most likely. Mitch kills it and goes for Pope who is a control hire. Kentucky could get much, much better coaches than Pope. It’s a blue blood program that makes you absolutely famous and rich lol.
So you think Matt Jones is lying about his sources said? We were getting Pearl if not for Mitch's end around with Eli.Retired for the job? Come on bruh. He just stepped down 6 months agoyou didn't know Pearl was wanted til Matt said it and now you runnin with it. Quit pretending
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He just keeps getting worse. He is a nationwide laughingstock and will continue to embarrass us every time he opens his mouth. No one respects the dork.
I think you are making the recruiting process too complicated. It seems that you are saying that if Pope says yes or no, that we will never get a recruit. Name a recruit we have now please.No, he straight up cannot. Some of you are complete dipshits. This wasn’t a media outlet reporting on rumors. This was a former recruit outright stating numbers. You want Pope to directly call him out as a liar? Do you ever want us to get a recruit? Pope can’t do that. He can’t. It would be suicide.
I don't know about ukbb4ever but beef with Pope not personal. I don't think it is helpful people standing up for his character when none of us know him at all. I know at least one player that he has misled about their role on the team. I am sure there are others. That speaks to his character. My issue is he didn't do anything in his past coaching life to indicate he can do this job. He has not done much since he has been here to make me feel as if this is true Ky basketball. We got rid of Cal to get back to the top. I think they said today on TV the Duke record the last 2 years in 65 wins and 5 losses. That is the standard we should be judged against. Pope could NEVER get us the that level.Legit question: Your beef with Pope seems ultra personal.
You constantly discredit his character. Did he do something to you or is it just you being mad Cal’s not here anymore?
You have had a vendetta against him from day 1. You were crushing him at all times last year too.
I am not flaming you. Genuinely curious.
I’ve already explained to posters I’ve known or some that are trustworthy my position and how it happened, where it comes from, I’ve said it in private. I’m not going to do it here. But yes I was told by some that would know, and Matt also said he went to bed thinking it was Pearl. The Pearl retirement is really all you need to know. That wasn’t for congress or the senate lolRetired for the job? Come on bruh. He just stepped down 6 months agoyou didn't know Pearl was wanted til Matt said it and now you runnin with it. Quit pretending
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Sure that is what you think. IF that is what happened then respond as such. Don't hide out like a P***Y.I figure it was a lie, my guess UK made him a decent offer and Michigan topped it, why he is lying it only known to that ki
It’s the same deal they do with Calipari “you just hate Cal” that we heard ad nauseam non stop when you didn’t worship him. They changed the way they say it which I’m glad, it became such a cringe line. you jUsT hAtE cOw!!! Omg it was bad.I don't know about ukbb4ever but beef with Pope not personal. I don't think it is helpful people standing up for his character when none of us know him at all. I know at least one player that he has misled about their role on the team. I am sure there are others. That speaks to his character. My issue is he didn't do anything in his past coaching life to indicate he can do this job. He has not done much since he has been here to make me feel as if this is true Ky basketball. We got rid of Cal to get back to the top. I think they said today on TV the Duke record the last 2 years in 65 wins and 5 losses. That is the standard we should be judged against. Pope could NEVER get us the that level.
Anyone that believes that we can be embarrassed by a kid and not respond because we don't want to hurt the kids feelings is worse than stupid. He didn't respond plainly because the truth does not fit our best narrative. If you get in a tit for tat argument then the truth comes out and the thing he is hiding is worse than the accusations leveled against us.Anyone who believes we offered that kid $7M-$9M is drunk or just stupid
There is no program first any more. It is players first and last. Not having someone that knows this is a HUGE ISSUE.It’s not personal at all. He was one of my favorite players on the ‘96 team.
I really don’t know how anyone could dislike Pope on a personal level.
And it has nothing to do with Cal. I said from the time I started posting here that it was time for Cal to go.
Nor did I crush him last year. Until the forfeit against Alabama in the SEC.
It’s purely UK basketball. Pope is not the guy. I guess it does become personal at some point when UK basketball has been such a huge part of my life since I was old enough to know what it was.
And I was glad we hired Pope. I’m not one of those against him from day 1.
I actually thought he would kill it here. The reason I thought Cal should go was because of the players first. I wanted a guy that was program first.
Pope is that in spades. But he’s the wrong one.
I can’t understand how anyone watching doesn’t see that.
As far as who to believe in this case I do know that Pope had a blank checkbook. I know he was not handcuffed by JMI.
And Pope did not say it wasn’t true.
I base my opinion on what I know. And it’s just that. An opinion.
Another way of saying the truth hurts more than the perception of the truth. So I will try to word salad my way around it like I always do.Critical thinking is apparently a thing of the past.
Pope's answer was basically if he comments or refutes one stupid rumor, then he will be expected to respond to all of them. Of which there are a lot surrounding this program with this fanbase. No problem whatsoever with this answer
truthPope’s coach speak is worse than Cal’s. Spewing garbage from the mouth not saying anything. When’s did men become such pussies they can’t say what they actually feel?
Lets all hope he gets ran out!Wait there are people that liked his response
That was terrible lol. Man the media sees him as a soft target and they know he’ll get clicks. Pope just gives it to them.
This guy is about to get ran out.
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