Louisville issued white paper...

[Maroon13]

The university.... "We going broke."

It's a week or so old news but I didn't see this posted here.

seriously, says they are operating at $12.5 million deficit before having to rev share. White paper ask for reform of college athletics.

https://www.si.com/college/louisvil...ll-for-structural-reform-to-college-athletics

 

[dorndawg]

I'm going to start a business that's Dave Ramsey but for college athletic administrators.

 

[John Deaux VII]

I'm going to start a business that's Dave Ramsey but for college athletic administrators.

Larry Templeton already did it...

 

[jethreauxdawg]

I'm going to start a business that's Dave Ramsey but for college athletic administrators.

When they get to spend other people’s money with no consequences…

 

[Maroon Eagle]

I'm going to start a business that's Dave Ramsey but for college athletic administrators.

When they get to spend other people’s money with no consequences…

If SPS still gave titles, @Bulldawg77 would be Other People’s Money

 

[jethreauxdawg]

If SPS still gave titles, @Bulldawg77 would be Other People’s Money

The good ole days

 

[bulldoghair]

I'm going to start a business that's Dave Ramsey but for college athletic administrators.

Dave Ramsey walks in, sees our books at State, and goes straight for the bat: “Cut baseball first- it’s the luxury SUV in the driveway that’s upside down on payments.”

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

Dave Ramsey walks in, sees our books at State, and goes straight for the bat: “Cut baseball first- it’s the luxury SUV in the driveway that’s upside down on payments.”

And put everyone on commission, which might be a good idea...more wins=more$$

 

[bulldoghair]

And put everyone on commission, which might be a good idea...more wins=more$$

Love it. Brian O’Connor and his staff get paid like Ostrander and DoorDash drivers- base pay barely covers gas, then pure commission on every dollar the program actually brings in. Any complaints and Ramsey would say, “Tradition don’t pay the light bill, son. Football’s the cash cow and baseball’s the overpriced side salad nobody ordered. Cut it or commission it!”

 

[Maroon13]

If Dave Ramsey visited campus. He'd tell everyone to go home, it's all a waste.

Sit in your double wide. Eat beans every night. Don't turn on that tv to watch sports either, that's wasted money on electricity. Just sit there, stare at wall and save money.*

 

[Bulldawg77]

If SPS still gave titles, @Bulldawg77 would be Other People’s Money

Meanwhile we just another 7 figure donation while you post another BS message board post.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

If Dave Ramsey visited campus. He'd tell everyone to go home, it's all a waste.

Sit in your double wide. Eat beans every night. Don't turn on that tv to watch sports either, that's wasted money on electricity. Just sit there, stare at wall and save money.*

tell me you’re in debt up to your eyeballs without saying it. **

 

[Thumbs Down]

Love it. Brian O’Connor and his staff get paid like Ostrander and DoorDash drivers- base pay barely covers gas, then pure commission on every dollar the program actually brings in. Any complaints and Ramsey would say, “Tradition don’t pay the light bill, son. Football’s the cash cow and baseball’s the overpriced side salad nobody ordered. Cut it or commission it!”

 

[johnson86-1]

If Dave Ramsey visited campus. He'd tell everyone to go home, it's all a waste.

Sit in your double wide. Eat beans every night. Don't turn on that tv to watch sports either, that's wasted money on electricity. Just sit there, stare at wall and save money.*

There are plenty of things to criticize Dave Ramsey for, particularly when it comes to investing advice but also when it comes to smart use of debt. But nothing you are complaining about has any relation to anything that he teaches.

 

[bulldoghair]

If Dave Ramsey visited campus. He'd tell everyone to go home, it's all a waste.

Sit in your double wide. Eat beans every night. Don't turn on that tv to watch sports either, that's wasted money on electricity. Just sit there, stare at wall and save money.*

Nah. He’d tell everyone “Guys, this isn’t about hating baseball. It’s about math. You don’t get wealthy or solvent by ignoring the numbers. Get on a budget, live within your means, invest in what produces, and cut what doesn’t. Cut the emotional spending first. Football’s the cash cow that saved the whole department’s bacon. What’s your plan gonna be? You gonna keep defending the deficit, or you ready to cut up the baseball credit card? I’m listening, but make it quick- I’ve got other people in Louisville with real debt to help!”

 

[Maroon13]

There are plenty of things to criticize Dave Ramsey for, particularly when it comes to investing advice but also when it comes to smart use of debt. But nothing you are complaining about has any relation to anything that he teaches.

Are sarcasterics not a thing anymore?

I think what he teaches is solid for the most part. However he is impractical in a few areas of advice.

 

[Curby]

Dave understands ROI though.

Our ROI sucks in football & basketball right now.

We will see if our baseball investment pays off.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

I'm going to start a business that's Dave Ramsey but for college athletic administrators.

IB will be looking for work soon & we know he is the smartest guy in the room.

 

[bulldoghair]

Dave understands ROI though.

Our ROI sucks in football & basketball right now.

We will see if our baseball investment pays off.

“Hey Curly, Dave Ramsey back on the line. let’s talk straight about ROI, because the numbers are telling a different story, and I don’t let emotions override math. Football’s ROI isn’t sucking- it’s carrying the whole operation. FY25: $48.3 million revenue, $37.6 million expenses = $10.7 million straight profit. That’s up from $8.2 million the year before. Basketball? Yeah, it’s not printing money like football right now and the numbers aren’t as shiny. That one may be fixable with discipline. Baseball? A $4.2 million deficit- expenses $7.6 million, revenue only $3.4 million- that’s negative ROI, plain and simple, Curby. “We’ll see if the investment pays off” is the same hopeful talk people use when they’re upside down on a car loan. Hope is not a strategy. You don’t wait for a miracle to fix bleeding- you stop the bleed. It’s time for beans and rice baseball. No more subsidizing a $4.2 million hole with football’s hard earned profit. That’s not investment- that’s gambling with other people’s money.”

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Louisville is just mad that they are in a bad conference that won't survive. They care nothing about the good of the game. Nothing coming from an individual school can be trusted at this point.

Congress needs to stay out of it. If anything, we need to roll-back rev-share, that would help as far as school budgets. Besides that, let the boosters do what they want to do and let the players do what they want to do. If we are going to crack down on anything, make it be real NIL charges and years of eligibility.

 

[Curby]

“Hey Curly, Dave Ramsey back on the line. let’s talk straight about ROI, because the numbers are telling a different story, and I don’t let emotions override math. Football’s ROI isn’t sucking- it’s carrying the whole operation. FY25: $48.3 million revenue, $37.6 million expenses = $10.7 million straight profit. That’s up from $8.2 million the year before. Basketball? Yeah, it’s not printing money like football right now and the numbers aren’t as shiny. That one may be fixable with discipline. Baseball? A $4.2 million deficit- expenses $7.6 million, revenue only $3.4 million- that’s negative ROI, plain and simple, Curby. “We’ll see if the investment pays off” is the same hopeful talk people use when they’re upside down on a car loan. Hope is not a strategy. You don’t wait for a miracle to fix bleeding- you stop the bleed. It’s time for beans and rice baseball. No more subsidizing a $4.2 million hole with football’s hard earned profit. That’s not investment- that’s gambling with other people’s money.”

I rate programs on wins & losses and what we pay for talent in the portal, and what they contribute.

whatcha got on that?

Football and basketball suck

 

[bulldoghair]

I rate programs on wins & losses and what we pay for talent in the portal, and what they contribute.

whatcha got on that?

Football and basketball suck

Curly, thanks for calling back in. Right off I’d say your program rating system needs an upgrade. Right now it’s like grading a car on how pretty it looks while it’s upside down on payments. Baseball is that fancy sports car you bought on a whim because it looks cool and wins some races- Shiny chrome, loud exhaust, trophy in the backseat. Basketball is the minivan sitting under your carport that’s a little dented and overdue for an oil change. It’s definitely fixable, not winning any beauty contests- but at least it’s not dragging the credit score into the dirt. Football is that ugly old pickup truck parked in your front yard that actually hauls the load, pays the insurance on the whole fleet, and keeps gas in the tank for everyone else. It’s the one with positive equity. It’s time to trade in the dream machine in for something that actually runs without constant bailouts. Trade it in and use the positive money to get that truck a front end alignment and some new tires.

 

[Curby]

TL,DR

 

[dickiedawg]

If Dave Ramsey visited campus. He'd tell everyone to go home, it's all a waste.

Sit in your double wide. Eat beans every night. Don't turn on that tv to watch sports either, that's wasted money on electricity. Just sit there, stare at wall and save money.*

Only if you’re in debt and struggling to get out of it.

 

[Bulldawg77]

Dave understands ROI though.

Our ROI sucks in football & basketball right now.

We will see if our baseball investment pays off.

We haven’t made money in baseball since 2010.. football is still profitable. Baseball never will be

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Meanwhile we just another 7 figure donation while you post another BS message board post.

867 5309 MSU?

 

[Podgy]

Nah. He’d tell everyone “Guys, this isn’t about hating baseball. It’s about math. You don’t get wealthy or solvent by ignoring the numbers. Get on a budget, live within your means, invest in what produces, and cut what doesn’t. Cut the emotional spending first. Football’s the cash cow that saved the whole department’s bacon. What’s your plan gonna be? You gonna keep defending the deficit, or you ready to cut up the baseball credit card? I’m listening, but make it quick- I’ve got other people in Louisville with real debt to help!”

Did you convince anyone last time? Will you convince anyone channeling Dave Ramsey? There are other sports that lose lots of money with little interest from fans. He'd mention those because he's not concerned about upsetting the gals.

 

[bulldoghair]

Did you convince anyone last time? Will you convince anyone channeling Dave Ramsey? There are other sports that lose lots of money with little interest from fans. He'd mention those because he's not concerned about upsetting the gals.

Our baseball’s deficit is bigger or equal to the entire rest of the women’s non-basketball lineup combined. When you combine the deficits from women’s soccer, softball, volleyball, tennis, golf, track & field, and cross country- that is still about less than or equal to what baseball loses by itself in a given year. The only women’s sport that consistently loses more than baseball is women’s basketball. Yes we need to take a chainsaw to women’s basketball funding, and I mean yesterday. Cut the funding way down- and then go out recruit for profit- meaning go recruit more of and better looking white girls. The market responds to what sells tickets, jerseys, and sponsorships. Bring in some attractive all American white girls who can actually play some- market them right with social media, posters, calendar deals, whatever it takes. Beauty sells, always has, always will. The athletic department’s job isn’t to run a social experiment- its job is to make money- and maybe win games along the way. But for a money losing sport as bad as women’s basketball- change the roster and go sell something.

 

[paindonthurt]

Our baseball’s deficit is bigger or equal to the entire rest of the women’s non-basketball lineup combined. When you combine the deficits from women’s soccer, softball, volleyball, tennis, golf, track & field, and cross country- that is still about less than or equal to what baseball loses by itself in a given year. The only women’s sport that consistently loses more than baseball is women’s basketball. Yes we need to take a chainsaw to women’s basketball funding, and I mean yesterday. Cut the funding way down- and then go out recruit for profit- meaning go recruit more of and better looking white girls. The market responds to what sells tickets, jerseys, and sponsorships. Bring in some attractive all American white girls who can actually play some- market them right with social media, posters, calendar deals, whatever it takes. Beauty sells, always has, always will. The athletic department’s job isn’t to run a social experiment- its job is to make money- and maybe win games along the way. But for a money losing sport as bad as women’s basketball- change the roster and go sell something.

If you don’t think baseball brings more to the University and town than women’s sports, no one can help your sub 89 @$$.

 

[She Mate Me]

Our baseball’s deficit is bigger or equal to the entire rest of the women’s non-basketball lineup combined. When you combine the deficits from women’s soccer, softball, volleyball, tennis, golf, track & field, and cross country- that is still about less than or equal to what baseball loses by itself in a given year. The only women’s sport that consistently loses more than baseball is women’s basketball. Yes we need to take a chainsaw to women’s basketball funding, and I mean yesterday. Cut the funding way down- and then go out recruit for profit- meaning go recruit more of and better looking white girls. The market responds to what sells tickets, jerseys, and sponsorships. Bring in some attractive all American white girls who can actually play some- market them right with social media, posters, calendar deals, whatever it takes. Beauty sells, always has, always will. The athletic department’s job isn’t to run a social experiment- its job is to make money- and maybe win games along the way. But for a money losing sport as bad as women’s basketball- change the roster and go sell something.

Your capacity for bringing back the same absolutely pointless arguments on a near daily basis is borderline psychotic.

In the words of my 13 year old self "Get a 17'n life, dude"

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Our baseball’s deficit is bigger or equal to the entire rest of the women’s non-basketball lineup combined. When you combine the deficits from women’s soccer, softball, volleyball, tennis, golf, track & field, and cross country- that is still about less than or equal to what baseball loses by itself in a given year. The only women’s sport that consistently loses more than baseball is women’s basketball. Yes we need to take a chainsaw to women’s basketball funding, and I mean yesterday. Cut the funding way down- and then go out recruit for profit- meaning go recruit more of and better looking white girls. The market responds to what sells tickets, jerseys, and sponsorships. Bring in some attractive all American white girls who can actually play some- market them right with social media, posters, calendar deals, whatever it takes. Beauty sells, always has, always will. The athletic department’s job isn’t to run a social experiment- its job is to make money- and maybe win games along the way. But for a money losing sport as bad as women’s basketball- change the roster and go sell something.

 

[Podgy]

Our baseball’s deficit is bigger or equal to the entire rest of the women’s non-basketball lineup combined. When you combine the deficits from women’s soccer, softball, volleyball, tennis, golf, track & field, and cross country- that is still about less than or equal to what baseball loses by itself in a given year. The only women’s sport that consistently loses more than baseball is women’s basketball. Yes we need to take a chainsaw to women’s basketball funding, and I mean yesterday. Cut the funding way down- and then go out recruit for profit- meaning go recruit more of and better looking white girls. The market responds to what sells tickets, jerseys, and sponsorships. Bring in some attractive all American white girls who can actually play some- market them right with social media, posters, calendar deals, whatever it takes. Beauty sells, always has, always will. The athletic department’s job isn’t to run a social experiment- its job is to make money- and maybe win games along the way. But for a money losing sport as bad as women’s basketball- change the roster and go sell something.

Holy shite. Now I'm convinced. Well done.*** I bet even golpher thinks you're being long-winded, wasting words and can use a break.

 

[Bulldawg77]

867 5309 MSU?

Im sure you will struggle with reading

 

[bulldoghair]

Your capacity for bringing back the same absolutely pointless arguments on a near daily basis is borderline psychotic.

In the words of my 13 year old self "Get a 17'n life, dude"

Holy shite. Now I'm convinced. Well done.*** I bet even golpher thinks you're being long-winded, wasting words and can use a break.

“This is the Dave Ramsey Show- where we cut the losers, balance the books, and don’t apologize for telling the truth. We talk real money, real life, and no BS. Y’all come back when you’re ready to talk real money instead of feelings and excuses. Ok, on to the next caller!”

 

[Curby]

I'll take a program that is millions in the hole, but competitive within our league.....over the LT fence-straddling that this athletic dept did for decades.
Not everything is about money. We just need better hit rates on transfers that we have been getting in Fball and Bskball, and win totals will increase.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Im sure you will struggle with reading

Eh. I’m sure the Athletics Department put this release out to encourage more people to give but who the 17 pays attention to Twitter anymore?

Good for Athletics, not that it matters…

Even with Mississippi State people donating, it ain’t enough.

You can’t fight Demography: Smallest School, Smallest State, Poorest State.

I’m also amused when you insult fellow alumni because You have provided enough evidence on your own as it relates to Mississippi’s brain drain and it being the Dumbest State…

I sure hope you aren’t a MSU employee. Your people skills are sħǐt

 

[mstateglfr]

The only women’s sport that consistently loses more than baseball is women’s basketball. Yes we need to take a chainsaw to women’s basketball funding, and I mean yesterday. Cut the funding way down- and then go out recruit for profit- meaning go recruit more of and better looking white girls. The market responds to what sells tickets, jerseys, and sponsorships. Bring in some attractive all American white girls who can actually play some- market them right with social media, posters, calendar deals, whatever it takes. Beauty sells, always has, always will. The athletic department’s job isn’t to run a social experiment- its job is to make money- and maybe win games along the way. But for a money losing sport as bad as women’s basketball- change the roster and go sell something.

 

[bulldoghair]

You dropped that GIF because you know exactly what I’m talking about. It’s why the WNBA’s ratings spiked a little when they started putting more marketable talent on camera. It’s why role players like even a Sophie Cunningham makes a lot of money off the court. It’s why certain players get NIL deals worth millions while others with better stats get crickets. It’s why posters, calendars, social media follows, and jersey sales go through the roof when someone that’s not even the face of the program is someone the public wants to look at. Even more so if or when it’s the literal face of it. Beauty moves product. Always has. You can post sarcastic gifs all day, but deep down you know the market doesn’t lie.

 

[mstateglfr]

You dropped that GIF because you know exactly what I’m talking about. It’s why the WNBA’s ratings spiked a little when they started putting more marketable talent on camera. It’s why role players like even a Sophie Cunningham makes a lot of money off the court. It’s why certain players get NIL deals worth millions while others with better stats get crickets. It’s why posters, calendars, social media follows, and jersey sales go through the roof when someone that’s not even the face of the program is someone the public wants to look at. Even more so if or when it’s the literal face of it. Beauty moves product. Always has. You can post sarcastic gifs all day, but deep down you know the market doesn’t lie.

I used that gif because it both perfectly captures my face while reading your comments and because its of a black guy and you were ranting about race.


- I did not use that gif because I know exactly what you are talking about.
- I am aware that beauty helps drive interest.
- I disagree with your idea of MSU signing a bunch of hot white girls to play basketball to push them to be in calendars and drive social media views, as a way to reduce the program's losses.

 

[bulldoghair]

I used that gif because it both perfectly captures my face while reading your comments and because its of a black guy and you were ranting about race.


- I did not use that gif because I know exactly what you are talking about.
- I am aware that beauty helps drive interest.
- I disagree with your idea of MSU signing a bunch of hot white girls to play basketball to push them to be in calendars and drive social media views, as a way to reduce the program's losses.

I’d trade rosters right now with Middle Tennessee State- similar results on the court- but I’d cut the deficit down and sell more stuff for sure. Have you seen their freshman Blair Baugus? And she’s a really good basketball player this year. They also got freshman Macie Pfifer out of Ingomar MS- she a nice looking girl and has done really well also thís year. They have two or three other nice looking girls as well. Why didn’t we recruit at least Pfifer from Ingomar?