OT: RU alum (Jersey City Deputy Mayor) DUI arrest video released, he’s still running for West Orange Mayor

[kupuna133]

"The Partnership for New York City represents the city’s business leaders and largest employers. We work with government, labor, and the nonprofit sector to promote economic growth and maintain the city’s prominence as a global center of economic opportunity, upward mobility, and innovation. The Partnership Fund for New York City is the Partnership’s investment arm. The Fund invests in entrepreneurs and innovators in the for-profit and nonprofit sectors who contribute to building a more vibrant and inclusive New York City economy."

Weird. Not ONE mention of "metropolitan" nor "region." Your claim that it represents anything outside of NYC is plainly false.

So the idea that a NYC business representative is going to be mentoring a NJ politician is definitely a LOL moment. Granted of the political reaching that goes on on this board it's not top 10 but still lacks any sense.

Buddy. I have experience with this organization for 20+ years. 2 of the organizations I worked for were active members. Doesn’t mention NJ by name. But it does mention “Global”. Does it mention London Hong Kong? Where this organization has a significant footprint and investment. You don’t think they have input on travel/tourism, large regional events, regional mass transit? Think Olympics, Super Bowl, World Cup. Things that take major multi state coordination and policy initiatives. They are involved. Not to mention federal and state policy. Coordinating between global corporations. Headquartered in both NYC/NJ/. Even lower Hudson valley and Ct. You know the NYC metropolitan area

and who said anything about th is organization mentoring anyone. Stop creating outlandish scenarios. You cannot deny that Fulop was/is this characters mentor. The fact you’re jumping through hoops shows he is.

 

[Retired711]

Excuse me, guys, but I'm really not sure what's being debated here. Fulop and this fellow certainly had a mentor-mentee relationship. That doesn't necessarily disappear from Fulop going into an entirely different job., although the relationship would almost certainly not be as close. But exactly why does it matter? Is Fulop responsible for this fellow's idiocy because he was/is a mentor? Would this fellow be in the wrong if he had done nothing else but dis his present/former mentor?

As for the partnership, there is no way *any* group involved in NY government isn't conscious of New Jersey because anything that happens in NYC affects NJ and vice versa. (Consider, for instance, the debate about having the 7 train cross the Hudson into NJ). But again, I'm not sure that matters.

But maybe I'm just dense.

 

[kupuna133]

Excuse me, guys, but I'm really not sure what's being debated here. Fulop and this fellow certainly had a mentor-mentee relationship. That doesn't necessarily disappear from Fulop going into an entirely different job., although the relationship would almost certainly not be as close. But exactly why does it matter? Is Fulop responsible for this fellow's idiocy because he was/is a mentor? Would this fellow be in the wrong if he had done nothing else but dis his present/former mentor?

As for the partnership, there is no way *any* group involved in NY government isn't conscious of New Jersey because anything that happens in NYC affects NJ and vice versa. (Consider, for instance, the debate about having the 7 train cross the Hudson into NJ). But again, I'm not sure that matters.

But maybe I'm just dense.

You ask the same questions and come to the same conclusion as me. Also you’re telling me that 300 companies, many global in presence (some with minimal employees in the city) are members of this organization solely to influence NYC policy and relations. Yea he responded to my post with bizarre scenarios.

 

[NotInRHouse]

You ask the same questions and come to the same conclusion as me. Also you’re telling me that 300 companies, many global in presence (some with minimal employees in the city) are members of this organization solely to influence NYC policy and relations. Yea he responded to my post with bizarre scenarios.

If they're working in NJ, they'd say that. They're not called GLOBAL partnership nor TRI STATE partnership. Notice how regional bodies call themselves regional aka "Tri State area Ford dealership" or "Port Authority of New York AND New Jersey."

No one is concluding a NY lobbyist is making a NJ wannabe small town mayor get DUIs other than you. Now, if you wanted to take that conclusion to a different board, sure, but they have sadder fish to fry these days.

 

[kupuna133]

If they're working in NJ, they'd say that. They're not called GLOBAL partnership nor TRI STATE partnership. Notice how regional bodies call themselves regional aka "Tri State area Ford dealership" or "Port Authority of New York AND New Jersey."

No one is concluding a NY lobbyist is making a NJ wannabe small town mayor get DUIs other than you. Now, if you wanted to take that conclusion to a different board, sure, but they have sadder fish to fry these days.

There you go implying again. Where did I ever say any such thing as a lobbyist or this organization having anything to do with this arrest. Actually said quite the opposite. Didn’t even mention Fulop by name. You did!! I said this douche nozzle threw his mentor under the bus. You brought this organization into it. Not me.

 

[Fat Koko]

Steve Fulop lives in an oceanfront mansion in Rhode Island built by an illegal international campaign donor.

https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201607159020536891

Coalition for Progress was Fulop's PAC. Dixon Advisory, now bankrupt, was based in Australia when the company bribed Fulop and built his houses in New Jersey and Rhode Island.

Dixon ran the biggest financial fraud in Australia's history, with its epicenter being Jersey City real estate. I informed Australia's leaders that thousands of Australians, mostly retirees, were being fleeced by Dixon through this real estate scam. The country's leaders did nothing to stop it.

 

[NotInRHouse]

There you go implying again. Where did I ever say any such thing as a lobbyist or this organization having anything to do with this arrest. Actually said quite the opposite. Didn’t even mention Fulop by name. You did!! I said this douche nozzle threw his mentor under the bus. You brought this organization into it. Not me.

LOL, "I didn't say his name, but there it was in the guy's comments!"

Did you not say the NYC Partnership was working in NJ too?

 

[kupuna133]

LOL, "I didn't say his name, but there it was in the guy's comments!"

Did you not say the NYC Partnership was working in NJ too?

Re read your posts. Your first response to my very post pointing how much of a tool this guy is actually. You brought his name into the is thread. And yea they represent companies and their interest in NJ.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Re read your posts. You brought his name into the is thread. And yea they represent companies and their interest in NJ.

So the website for the Partnership is lying? Where is the NJ mention?

Your post was the 4th in this thread- before any of mine- where you said "boss/mentor". LOL. Any boss is now a mentor, apparently.

As usual you're just trying to cause a political derail and got caught.

 

[RAC93]

It didn’t seem fair that others are showing DUI body cams of shirtless moms from Westfield when some of our own prominent alumni are making even bigger mistakes.

While running for political office, no less!

Glad to see someone standing up for the drunk shirtless moms of Westfield, they have my support as well

 

[kupuna133]

So the website for the Partnership is lying? Where is the NJ mention?

Your post was the 4th in this thread- before any of mine- where you said "boss/mentor". LOL. Any boss is now a mentor, apparently.

As usual you're just trying to cause a political derail and got caught.

Not lying. You’re very slow. Look at the list of companies they represent. Are all of them headquartered or major players in NyC? One of the companies I worked for and was a member of this organization had a headcount of less than 50 in NYc. And they had 3000 in Jersey city. Do you think they were part of this org only represent the employees in NYC or specifically the only lobbying the mayor?

From their website:

Establishing the FinTech Innovation Lab​

In partnership with Accenture, the Partnership Fund co-founded the FinTech Innovation Lab, a competitive, 12-week program that helps early- to growth-stage tech companies refine and test their value proposition through mentorship and collaboration with over 40 of the world’s leading financial services and venture capital firms. The Lab has played a critical role in the development of the fintech sector in NYC. Today, it is a global program that runs annually in New York, London, and Hong Kong helping fintechs scale their businesses in the world’s most competitive markets.
The Fund replicated the successful FinTech lab model in the digital health and fashion tech sectors and created a public sector program to accelerate the application of new technologies to serve the public interest.

But it’s not a global org.

 

[kupuna133]

So the website for the Partnership is lying? Where is the NJ mention?

Your post was the 4th in this thread- before any of mine- where you said "boss/mentor". LOL. Any boss is now a mentor, apparently.

As usual you're just trying to cause a political derail and got caught.

Derail you took this thing off the rails. I pointed out how ridiculous this guy was. You brought politics into this not me. Show me where I brought politics into this?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Not lying. You’re very slow. Look at the list of companies they represent. Are all of them headquartered or major players in NyC? One of the companies I worked for and was a member of this organization had a headcount of less than 50 in NYc. And they had 3000 in Jersey city. Do you think they were part of this org only represent the employees in NYC or specifically the only lobbying the mayor?

Another poster literally posted their mission. It says nothing about NJ, tri state, region, metro.

It says NYC over and over.

I'm sure some members have an office in London, so maybe now it's an international organization?

You got caught lying. Be a man and admit it. It's not the first time either.

 

[kupuna133]

Another poster literally posted their mission. It says nothing about NJ, tri state, region, metro.

It says NYC over and over.

I'm sure some members have an office in London, so maybe now it's an international organization?

You got caught lying. Be a man and admit it. It's not the first time either.

Dude you’re a real POS. Never lied. All you have to do is reeeas your historical posts and see where the animosity starts. Going back on ignore. And I suggest you put me on ignore also.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Derail you took this thing off the rails. I pointed out how ridiculous this guy was. You brought politics into this not me. Show me where I brought politics into this?

In the 4th post in this thread where you said "boss/mentor" again, indicating any boss is a mentor and somehow a replica.

Oh- and then when you were caught lying about that- you then claimed that an organization that describes itself as lobbying ONLY for NYC business was involved in NJ politics.

Oh- and then when you were caught in that lie, claimed members have offices in Jersey City!

I am sure some of the Wall Street- you know, Wall Street in NYC, not Wall Street in Eatontown- companies that use Fulop's organization to lobby have offices in Toronto, in Sydney, in Paris...I guess it's an international organization? Never mind the insurers who probably have offices in Bermuda and the Caymans...maybe it's a Caribbean organization?

You wanted to pin a DUI on Fulop and forgot he left NJ and left politics. Sad, sad, sad. As if somehow a former "boss" causes their employees to be drunk...and then when they don't even live in the same state...or work at the same place....or have any kind of a proven relationship at all...

 

[NotInRHouse]

Dude you’re a real POS. Never lied. All you have to do is reeeas your historical posts and see where the animosity starts. Going back on ignore. And I suggest you put me on ignore also.

Nah, I love pointing out the lies. Too easy and fun.

4th post in this thread. And then this page, full of them.

See you again next time there's screeching about Wall and it's affordable housing obligations that it lost (again) in front of the highest court in the land.

 

[kupuna133]

In the 4th post in this thread where you said "boss/mentor" again, indicating any boss is a mentor and somehow a replica.

Oh- and then when you were caught lying about that- you then claimed that an organization that describes itself as lobbying ONLY for NYC business was involved in NJ politics.

Oh- and then when you were caught in that lie, claimed members have offices in Jersey City!

I am sure some of the Wall Street- you know, Wall Street in NYC, not Wall Street in Eatontown- companies that use Fulop's organization to lobby have offices in Toronto, in Sydney, in Paris...I guess it's an international organization? Never mind the insurers who probably have offices in Bermuda and the Caymans...maybe it's a Caribbean organization?

You wanted to pin a DUI on Fulop and forgot he left NJ and left politics. Sad, sad, sad. As if somehow a former "boss" causes their employees to be drunk...and then when they don't even live in the same state...or work at the same place....or have any kind of a proven relationship at all...

In the 4th post in this thread where you said "boss/mentor" again, indicating any boss is a mentor and somehow a replica.
False
Oh- and then when you were caught lying about that- you then claimed that an organization that describes itself as lobbying ONLY for NYC business was involved in NJ politics.
False
Oh- and then when you were caught in that lie, claimed members have offices in Jersey City!
True many memebers have offices throughout the world. Global companies
I am sure some of the Wall Street- you know, Wall Street in NYC, not Wall Street in Eatontown- companies that use Fulop's organization to lobby have offices in Toronto, in Sydney, in Paris...I guess it's an international organization? Never mind the insurers who probably have offices in Bermuda and the Caymans...maybe it's a Caribbean organization?
Bizarre. More people work on YALL STREET THAN ON WALL ST.

You wanted to pin a DUI on Fulop and forgot he left NJ and left politics. Sad, sad, sad. As if somehow a former "boss" causes their employees to be drunk...and then when they don't even live in the same state...or work at the same place....or have any kind of a proven relationship at all...

ABSOLUTELY false never crossed my mind. Never even mentioned who the boss/mentor was. Could have been one of the other 20 guys the douche nozzle threw under he bus. You brought his name into it.

 

[CatManTrue]

Glad to see someone standing up for the drunk shirtless moms of Westfield, they have my support as well

Somebody has to! 🫡

 

[NotInRHouse]

In the 4th post in this thread where you said "boss/mentor" again, indicating any boss is a mentor and somehow a replica.
False
Oh- and then when you were caught lying about that- you then claimed that an organization that describes itself as lobbying ONLY for NYC business was involved in NJ politics.
False
Oh- and then when you were caught in that lie, claimed members have offices in Jersey City!
True many memebers have offices throughout the world. Global companies
I am sure some of the Wall Street- you know, Wall Street in NYC, not Wall Street in Eatontown- companies that use Fulop's organization to lobby have offices in Toronto, in Sydney, in Paris...I guess it's an international organization? Never mind the insurers who probably have offices in Bermuda and the Caymans...maybe it's a Caribbean organization?
Bizarre. More people work on YALL STREET THAN ON WALL ST.

You wanted to pin a DUI on Fulop and forgot he left NJ and left politics. Sad, sad, sad. As if somehow a former "boss" causes their employees to be drunk...and then when they don't even live in the same state...or work at the same place....or have any kind of a proven relationship at all...

ABSOLUTELY false never crossed my mind. Never even mentioned who the boss/mentor was. Could have been one of the other 20 guys the douche nozzle threw under he bus. You brought his name into it.

You know everyone can go back to the 4th post and see you're lying and then see the description of the Partnership for NEW YORK and see you're lying there too?

Weird they don't mention "yall street" lmao on their website.

 

[kupuna133]

You know everyone can go back to the 4th post and see you're lying and then see the description of the Partnership for NEW YORK and see you're lying there too?

Weird they don't mention "yall street" lmao on their website.

I hope you get the help you need!

 

[NotInRHouse]

I hope you get the help you need!

I hope you learn how to use the scroll button. That or a cure for liabetes develops.

 

[kupuna133]

I hope you learn how to use the scroll button. That or a cure for liabetes develops.

I wish you well. And hope you get the help you need!

 

[NotInRHouse]

I wish you well. And hope you get the help you need!

I'm glad you learned copy and paste. Maybe next you'll learn how to click back and read what you wrote?

 

[kupuna133]

I'm glad you learned copy and paste. Maybe next you'll learn how to click back and read what you wrote?

I wish you well. And hope you get the help you need!

 

[Retired711]

I've long since stopped following this discussion, but I do want to comment that to me the phrase "boss/mentor" means that someone is *both* a boss and a mentor. One can certainly be one without being the other. But I have to say I still don't understand why it matters whether Fulop was this fellow's mentor.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I've long since stopped following this discussion, but I do want to comment that to me the phrase "boss/mentor" means that someone is *both* a boss and a mentor. One can certainly be one without being the other. But I have to say I still don't understand why it matters whether Fulop was this fellow's mentor.

Because he wanted to blame Fulop for the DUI.

 

[kupuna133]

Because he wanted to blame Fulop for the DUI.

Show specifically where I blamed anyone?

 

[CatManTrue]

I've long since stopped following this discussion, but I do want to comment that to me the phrase "boss/mentor" means that someone is *both* a boss and a mentor. One can certainly be one without being the other. But I have to say I still don't understand why it matters whether Fulop was this fellow's mentor.

Do birds of a feather flock together?

 

[Retired711]

Do birds of a feather flock together?

Well, maybe. Assuming that Fulop was really his mentor, Fulop certainly was less than perfect in picking mentees. But there's a limit to how much influence a mentor has over a mentee. Certainly this fellow's actions don't make Fulop look good, but it's hard to pin much blame on Fulop. For that reason, I really don't understand why the discussion here has gotten so heated about whether Fulop was his mentor, what a mentor is, whether Fulop remains his mentor, etc. etc. I doubt we'll see much of Fulop again in NJ politics, although one never knows.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Show specifically where I blamed anyone?

Ah, you just wanted to call him a mentor with zero substantiation.

Right.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Well, maybe. Assuming that Fulop was really his mentor, Fulop certainly was less than perfect in picking mentees. But there's a limit to how much influence a mentor has over a mentee. Certainly this fellow's actions don't make Fulop look good, but it's hard to pin much blame on Fulop. For that reason, I really don't understand why the discussion here has gotten so heated about whether Fulop was his mentor, what a mentor is, whether Fulop remains his mentor, etc. etc. I doubt we'll see much of Fulop again in NJ politics, although one never knows.

The evidence he was a mentor is like the evidence he's still involved in NJ politics in role in the Partnership for NYC...

It's like George Costanza said...it's not a lie if you believe it...

 

[kupuna133]

Ah, you just wanted to call him a mentor with zero substantiation.

Right.

And you deny the relationship (even though he mentions it multiple times in the video) without any substantiation. But keep making up shite.
But that wasn’t what was asked.
I asked where I “specifically” blame Fulop or anyone for this douche nozzles DUI. Can’t find it. Because once again you fabricated the whole thing.

 

[Kbe4]

Enough already. NotInRHouse...please show some mercy and stop pummeling the poor guy.
It's gotten quite boring anyway.

 

[kupuna133]

Enough already. NotInRHouse...please show some mercy and stop pummeling the poor guy.
It's gotten quite boring anyway.

Too funny.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Horrible optics yes. He could have punched his wife in a casino instead and still be revered around these parts #27

It was justified self-defense. She hit him first (in the mouth). Then she came at him and he backed up until he couldn't anymore (because he was in an elevator) before punching her once (and knocking her out). He got railroaded because Me Too was in full swing. He's under no obligation to take a few punches/slaps/scratches because a woman can't be expected to exercise self-control.

 

[NotInRHouse]

And you deny the relationship (even though he mentions it multiple times in the video) without any substantiation. But keep making up shite.
But that wasn’t what was asked.
I asked where I “specifically” blame Fulop or anyone for this douche nozzles DUI. Can’t find it. Because once again you fabricated the whole thing.

The only person to call him a mentor is you. Did you look at the 4th post in this thread?

 

[kupuna133]

The only person to call him a mentor is you. Did you look at the 4th post in this thread?

Again answer the question. Where did I blame anyone?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Again answer the question. Where did I blame anyone?

OK. So if I said you were a mentor to OJ or Epstein, am I saying that to exculpate you from responsibilty?

Calling someone a mentor to a criminal when there is no evidence is giving them blame. This is a simple fact.

 

[kupuna133]

OK. So if I said you were a mentor to OJ or Epstein, am I saying that to exculpate you from responsibilty?

Calling someone a mentor to a criminal when there is no evidence is giving them blame. This is a simple fact.

No not really. But keep grasping. Your posts get more bizarre the more you type.
Again. I wish you well. I hope you get the help you need.

 

[NotInRHouse]

No not really. But keep grasping. Your posts get more bizarre the more you type.
Again. I wish you well. I hope you get the help you need.

You sound like a mentee of Jeffrey Dahmer.