OT: Deliver Me From Nowhere (Springsteen Movie)

RedTeamUpstream94

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Everything you said is true. But as noted above, he has amped up his approach and focused on a person who shall not be named, who won in a landslide (IDGAS about popular vote) and still enjoys a decent popularity rating. The attacks are personal, and in several instances poorly supported and just other party talking points. A one-party trick pony he is. The other party NEVER does/did anything wrong? That's quite impossible.

and if Bruce’s politics trigger you, as they clearly do, then you’re also free to stop listening to him. Again, I highly doubt he would give a f$&k
 
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and if Bruce’s politics trigger you, as they clearly do, then you’re also free to stop listening to him. Again, I highly doubt he would give a f$&k
You should not be an armchair internet mind reader. I'm not triggered at all. This is the second person to which you have made this observation. I'm just observing the irony of his positions. He himself said in 1984, "Blind faith in your leaders or in anything will get you killed." But he seems to have blind faith in one party. That's fine. It does not matter to him or the other millionaires, no matter who is in power. Their lives keep getting better and they keep getting wealthier. And I still enjoy his music, as I do some of Ted Nugent's music and multiple other artists with whom I don't agree with on politics. Like the art, not the artist. But a little objectivity once in a while would be refreshing. If it does not happen, that's OK. As you said, he does not care what others think-he does not need to. Going to turn on Sirius/XM E STreet radio, if that's OK with you. Have a nice night, buddy.
 

RedTeamUpstream94

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You should not be an armchair internet mind reader. I'm not triggered at all. This is the second person to which you have made this observation. I'm just observing the irony of his positions. He himself said in 1984, "Blind faith in your leaders or in anything will get you killed." But he seems to have blind faith in one party. That's fine. It does not matter to him or the other millionaires, no matter who is in power. Their lives keep getting better and they keep getting wealthier. And I still enjoy his music, as I do some of Ted Nugent's music and multiple other artists with whom I don't agree with on politics. Like the art, not the artist. But a little objectivity once in a while would be refreshing. If it does not happen, that's OK. As you said, he does not care what others think-he does not need to. Going to turn on Sirius/XM E STreet radio, if that's OK with you. Have a nice night, buddy.

I don’t see any irony. Someone having a consistently strong opinion against Donald Trump is … well it ain’t exactly unique.

I think people on both sides recognize that Donald Trump is probably the most “love him or hate him” public figure in modern times

so Bruce being consistently anti-Trump shouldn’t surprise … anyone
 
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RU848789

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Everything you said is true. But as noted above, he has amped up his approach and focused on a person who shall not be named, who won in a landslide (IDGAS about popular vote) and still enjoys a decent popularity rating. The attacks are personal, and in several instances poorly supported and just other party talking points. A one-party trick pony he is. The other party NEVER does/did anything wrong? That's quite impossible.
Is it possible you're serious about this? Landslide at 312-226 with only a 1.5% popular vote margin in 2024? I guess that means 2020 was a "landslide" at 306-232 with a 4.4% popular vote margin, lol (hint, it wasn't - neither were - most experts consider 400+ electoral votes to be a landslide). And since when is ~40% a "decent popularity rating?" Especially when it was 52% at the start of his term. I could argue chapter and verse about why, but leaving all of that out, the facts do not support your statements.
 

newell138

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You're gonna absolutely love Neil Young's new album. And him talking about it.
According to what you seem to be saying, no artist should have a tune about anything having to do with politics. And no one creating a movie should do one having anything at all to do with politics. And nobody should talk about any of that stuff.
Of course, my position is very different. I look for music and movies that speak to political issues. Mostly from points of view that I share. You know...the correct ones. Christ, my album collection would be much smaller if the records I have concerning the War in Vietnam, the draft, civil rights, and so many other political issues didn't exist. Speaking up is a good thing IMO.
BTW, you must be a big fan of Michael Moore movies. And him talking about the subjects of his movies.
 

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Is it possible you're serious about this? Landslide at 312-226 with only a 1.5% popular vote margin in 2024? I guess that means 2020 was a "landslide" at 306-232 with a 4.4% popular vote margin, lol (hint, it wasn't - neither were - most experts consider 400+ electoral votes to be a landslide). And since when is ~40% a "decent popularity rating?" Especially when it was 52% at the start of his term. I could argue chapter and verse about why, but leaving all of that out, the facts do not support your statements.
Several AI searches say:
There is no strict, universally agreed-upon numerical threshold for what constitutes a landslide in a U.S. presidential election when measured by electoral votes. The term is somewhat subjective and journalistic, generally referring to an overwhelming or decisive victory where the winner secures a very large share of the Electoral College (currently 538 total votes, requiring at least 270 to win) far beyond what's needed for a typical close or competitive race.

Are you serious? You do realize the coasts, full of liberals make up a large percentage of the voting population. That's why I said IDGAS about popular vote.

Sure Jan GIF
 

RU848789

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Several AI searches say:
There is no strict, universally agreed-upon numerical threshold for what constitutes a landslide in a U.S. presidential election when measured by electoral votes. The term is somewhat subjective and journalistic, generally referring to an overwhelming or decisive victory where the winner secures a very large share of the Electoral College (currently 538 total votes, requiring at least 270 to win) far beyond what's needed for a typical close or competitive race.

Are you serious? You do realize the coasts, full of liberals make up a large percentage of the voting population. That's why I said IDGAS about popular vote.

Sure Jan GIF
You really want to go with "several AI searches say?" You can do better. I saw at least 3-4 good actual sources that had a landslide ranging from 370-400 electoral college votes, not 312 or 306. The meme is beneath you also. And I have zero idea what your point is about the "coasts." I know no source other than a certain POTUS who claims that 2024 was a landslide.

Are you also still sticking with your "decent popularity rating" comment or have the data dashed that for you (as they should)?

https://www.thoughtco.com/about-us-4779650
 

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It’s common for people to become more conservative with age. Many now dislike that Bruce “has changed” not realizing that it is they who have changed. Bruce’s words and ideals that appealed to them when they were 20 don’t appeal to them now that they are 60. They want to believe that they still do, but their dislike of Bruce’s 2026 politics shows that they don’t.

For those who used to attend his concerts but don’t anymore, and mistakenly think Bruce has lost a big chunk of his fanbase and therefore has a smaller audience than he used to - well, you’ve been replaced. He has a very large following of young and youngish fans drawn to his message like you used to.

I disagree. He was never anti-police in the 80s and 90s. That's new.
 

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People hear what they wanna hear. I can remember sitting in a large bar in North Bergen back when Born In The USA was real popular. And someone played the song on the jukebox. First the bartenders and then a good chunk of the crowd loudly sang along to the chorus. I told them that the song was not what they thought it was. And I even pointed out the lyrics to the tune that showed what Bruce was trying to say. They didn't get it. Or more likely didn't wanna get it. People hear what they wanna hear I guess.
And frankly, I wish Bruce would speak up a lot more about the chit that's going on currently in this country.
 

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People hear what they wanna hear. I can remember sitting in a large bar in North Bergen back when Born In The USA was real popular. And someone played the song on the jukebox. First the bartenders and then a good chunk of the crowd loudly sang along to the chorus. I told them that the song was not what they thought it was. And I even pointed out the lyrics to the tune that showed what Bruce was trying to say. They didn't get it. Or more likely didn't wanna get it. People hear what they wanna hear I guess.
And frankly, I wish Bruce would speak up a lot more about the chit that's going on currently in this country.
Kburnt is going through some things lol
 

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You really want to go with "several AI searches say?" You can do better. I saw at least 3-4 good actual sources that had a landslide ranging from 370-400 electoral college votes, not 312 or 306. The meme is beneath you also. And I have zero idea what your point is about the "coasts." I know no source other than a certain POTUS who claims that 2024 was a landslide.

Are you also still sticking with your "decent popularity rating" comment or have the data dashed that for you (as they should)?

https://www.thoughtco.com/about-us-4779650
No he can’t. His preferred persona is that of a neutral middle of the roader but it clear he’s just another delusional righty.

And that’s fine but he should own who he is. He thinks he’s clever trying to straddle neutrality but he’s an obvious fraud.
 
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I really don’t want political opinions from celebrities, I also don’t want it in sports either as sports is an escape from that garbage. Don’t want to hear Bruce’s political opinions, just like I don’t want to hear Kid Rock’s political opinions, let’s have them shut their pie holes on both sides of the aisle.
The problem is- celebrities and athletes are not all just Madden players and actors. They are actually humans who just do a different job than you or I.
Your take on it- would mean that you and I and everyone else in the world ‘except’ for politicians- should just STFU.

I don’t particularly like hearing it all the time because they have a bigger stage, but that is their choice. And just like you or I, what we say can cost us. No different for them.

so, don’t go to his concert, I was never a fan anyway. Just like I wouldn’t go to a Kid Rock concert.
But I don’t bellyache that he is only on this planet to serve my entertainment
 

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Also attending the No Kings rally in St. Paul on Saturday will be Sen. Bernie Sanders, Jane Fonda and singers Joan Baez and Maggie Rogers.

Which Jane Fonda?



 

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No kings lol. These losers dont realize we haven’t had a king in 250 years of existence. Best part is the go to England and post how great it is lol. Idiots.
 

newell138

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No kings lol. These losers dont realize we haven’t had a king in 250 years of existence. Best part is the go to England and post how great it is lol. Idiots.
i guess we should thank them for protesting lol, its working!! I wonder what their play will be when JD or Rubio becomes president in 2028