Santa Clara Vs Kentucky Team Comparison
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I don't understand the "Santa Clara is a bad draw" thing I keep reading.
We're a 7 seed. We have to play a 10 seed.
Option 1: Missouri (in St. Louis): Has beaten us once.
Option 2: Texas A&M: Has beaten us once
Option 3: UCF: Has wins over Kansas, BYU, and Texas Tech
Option 4: Santa Clara.
If you want to say "Santa Clara isn't easy." Yup. They're not. They're a 10 seed. There are no free wins when you're a 7 seed.
If you want to say Santa Clara was the worst draw, I don't know that I follow. We technically couldn't get either SEC team. But our options were 2 teams that have beaten us or a Big 12 teams with some amazing wins under their belt.
I think I'd take Santa Clara every time.
We're a 7 seed. We have to play a 10 seed.
Option 1: Missouri (in St. Louis): Has beaten us once.
Option 2: Texas A&M: Has beaten us once
Option 3: UCF: Has wins over Kansas, BYU, and Texas Tech
Option 4: Santa Clara.
If you want to say "Santa Clara isn't easy." Yup. They're not. They're a 10 seed. There are no free wins when you're a 7 seed.
If you want to say Santa Clara was the worst draw, I don't know that I follow. We technically couldn't get either SEC team. But our options were 2 teams that have beaten us or a Big 12 teams with some amazing wins under their belt.
I think I'd take Santa Clara every time.
All there bigs can shoot the 3 and we haven’t defended well
Honestly i get we had a disappointing season but gawd some you sound like whiney the sky is falling bitches. Could you please just drop the negativity for at least the tourney and support the team?!
We rely on 3 point shooting? Oh, I didn't know that.
1st round games between 7-10’s, 8-9’s even 6-11’s are usually pretty even teams. Just depends on who handles the moment best usually. You can get off to a slow start and essentially be done. Which doesn’t exactly bode well for us.
This was the best 10 seed we could've drawn looking at all the other options. If you're worried about us not being able to beat SANTA CLARA then you're subconsciously admitting that Mark Pope is not the right man to be the head coach of The University of Kentucky Men's Basketball Team.
I think we win this game, while also remaining firm in my conviction that Mark Pope is not the right man for this job
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I think we win this game, while also remaining firm in my conviction that Mark Pope is not the right man for this job
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Is there a matchup out there this team wouldn't struggle with? Don't just stop at Santa Clara.
I wonder if the cookies will travel to St. Louis?
Why exactly? Who did they beat that’s scary? Or is it the losses they have to St Louis, Loyola Chicago, Arizona State or the 27 point loss to New Mexico that makes them better?
There’s a reason it opened -1.5 and is already bet up to -3.5.
I disagree. I would rather play them than UCF or Texas A&M. I don’t think Missouri is very good although we struggled with them twice.
Santa Clara is rated higher on KP than the other three 10 seeds, but I'd rather play Santa Clara.
No kidding. Like I said Rafters will have this team equal to the Dream Team by mid week
Are you talking about the other three 10 seeds? I assume you are. We lost to Texas A@M; we split with Missouri and there is UCF. The reason I don’t like the match up is because they play very fast and they shoot a lot 3’s and we’re not a good perimeter defensive team.
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Respectfully, what are we basing that on? Kenpom?
They beat St. Mary's twice. Other than that, they have no wins over tournament teams.
Missouri beat Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Florida.
A&M beat: Kentucky, Georgia, Texas
UCF beat Kansas, Texas Tech, and BYU.
Missouri beat us at home
Texas A&M beat us by double digits.
Wins over Kansas, BYU, and Texas Tech seem far more impressive than 2 wins over St. Mary's.
Bingo.
If you look at who they've beaten: Santa Clara's best wins and only tournament team wins are 2 wins over St. Mary's.
Mizzou beat us at home. They beat UT, Vandy, and Florida.
Texas A&M beat us by double digits. They beat Georgia and Texas.
UCF beat Kansas, BYU, and Texas Tech.
We weren't getting an easy or free win here. But If I got to pick from these 4 teams, give me the one who hasn't beaten anyone better than St. Mary's.
Maybe they beat us. But this is our best chance.
If we lose to the 3rd best team in the WCC things were worse this season than we realized.
These dudes shoot be;low 35% as a team from 3
These dudes shoot be;low 35% as a team from 3
I was going to post something similar.
What is their best win? Saint Mary’s?
What is Saint Mary’s best win? A WCC tournament game against Gonzaga.
WCC is a circle of suck.
They may very well beat UK but let’s not turn them into the second coming.
What is their best win? Saint Mary’s?
What is Saint Mary’s best win? A WCC tournament game against Gonzaga.
WCC is a circle of suck.
They may very well beat UK but let’s not turn them into the second coming.
I'll add:
People keep citing that Santa Clara played Gonzaga within single digits multiple times.
Get this. We played a far better team, Florida, within single digits 3 times. But when we do that, it's a moral victory. It doesn't mean anything. And like, I get it. This is Kentucky. Losing by single digits doesn't really count for anything.
But it sure as hell counts for more than losing to Gonzaga by single digits in a year when Gonzaga is a worse team.
People keep citing that Santa Clara played Gonzaga within single digits multiple times.
Get this. We played a far better team, Florida, within single digits 3 times. But when we do that, it's a moral victory. It doesn't mean anything. And like, I get it. This is Kentucky. Losing by single digits doesn't really count for anything.
But it sure as hell counts for more than losing to Gonzaga by single digits in a year when Gonzaga is a worse team.
Yeah but honestly, I really don't want to lose to another mid major, that's very annoying and it’s happened too often these last 6 years.
Also due to their lower talent level they also have a lower floor.
Close games vs Idaho St, North Texas, Portland, Utah Tech. A home loss vs 9-24 Loyola Chicago.
Zags didn't have Braden Huff. HUGE difference
UK is not losing to Santa Clara. Good grief get ahold of yourselves
Zags didn't have arguable their best player in Braden Huff in a few matchups against SCU.
Santa Clara also lost to Loyola Chicago ranked 278 NET.
And if we do, we weren’t beating any one of note.
He’s lost to the 11th seed as a 6th seed twice apparently. But I also know since he’s been at Kentucky he’s always managed to win a gimme. Wouldn’t shock me if we lose but I kinda don’t expect it.
Also factor in that we can't play Missouri or TAMU in the first round, so that leaves just UCF and Santa Clara.
Key Rematch Rules:
- Played Once: Cannot meet until at least the Round of 32 (second round).
- Played Twice: Cannot meet until at least the Sweet 16.
- Played Three Times: Cannot meet until at least the Elite Eight.
Would bet my life savings you haven’t watched 10 min of Santa Clara all year, but thanks for the analysis
I watched them play Gonzaga
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This happens every year.
The bracket drops, and everyone has to go into "I know ball mode." Somehow a team whose only tournament caliber wins are vs St. Mary's is a bigger threat than 2 teams that have actually beaten us.
I'd be far more annoyed if I saw we had to play A&M opening round. (I realize the rules are supposed to prevent this from happening). But if I knew a team had already beaten us the 1 time we played them, I don't feel warm and fuzzy for that team.
But some people are like "Oh, but you don't know ball. Santa Clara is FAR more dangerous than Texas A&M."
They're 34% as a team just like we are so which ones shoot it well?
Shittt that’s where I’d be tooI mean denzel posted a tiktok of him and clara strack together in his dorm not long ago
Obviously this is the best team we could have drawn on the 10 line. Popettes run screaming it’s a hard draw. Pope couldn’t have been more lucky. Hell I’m convinced the NCAA wants him at UK where we don’t go anywhere and is trying to find ways to get him to those sweet 16’s for extensions. I mean hell they’ve tried to alter negative sht for UK before.
But thinking this is a bad draw after what UK did this year? I still don’t believe it’s a team worthy of a 7 seed but, due to other factors you had to.