Darkhorse Derby 2026

Wrestleknownothing

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This is something I did for the last two tournaments on Intermat that a lot of people found interesting. It creates an incentive to think about and watch the guys who generally do not wind up on the podium. It acknowledges that their struggle is every bit as real even if their recognition generally is not.

  • The idea is that everyone picks 1 wrestler per weight (10 total wrestlers) who is seeded in the 17 - 33 range. No wrestlers seeded 1 - 16 are eligible.

We will use regular tournament scoring to determine who has the strongest lineup of darkhorses at the conclusion of the tournament.

  • If you would like to make my life more easy in your post use the following format for your entry:

Weight - Seed - Wrestler - School

For example, if you were interested in all #17 seeds it would look like this:

125 – 17 - Jett Strickenberger – WVU
133 – 17 - TK Davis – GW
141 – 17 - Caedyn Ricciardi – NAVY
149 – 17 - Lucas Kapusta – LH
157 – 17 - Luke Mechler – WIS
165 – 17 - Braeden Scoles – ILL
174 – 17 - Jared Simma – UNI
184 – 17 - Ian Bush – WVU
197 – 17 - Dillon Bechtold – BUCK
285 – 17 - Vincent Mueller - COL

One caveat. I will not be around as much this year during the tournament as I was in past years due to my own stupidity, so my scoring updates will be a little less frequent.

I will be posting this on all four on3 boards.
 
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colcord

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For us slow/or newbs do we post here or is there a link somewhere and what is the entry deadline time?
 

ionel

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Jet Roll
125 – (17) Jett Strickenberger (WVU) 19-7
133 – (24) Blake Boarman (PUR) 12-15
141 – (18) Carter Nogle (AF) 25-8
149 – (20) Chance Lamer (NEB) 17-8
157 – (18) DJ McGee (GMU) 24-4
165 – (22) Matthew Olguin (ORST) 17-5
174 – (17) Jared Simma (UNI) 14-9
184 – (18) Jake Dailey (UNC) 18-4
197 – (18) Andrew Reall (BRWN) 34-4
285 – (18) Christian Carroll (WYO) 19-6
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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Someone asked on HR so I will share here too.

AA's by seed, by year, #17 - #33


Note: no #24, #29, #30, #31, or #32 has AAed.
 

Wrestleknownothing

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Jet Roll
125 – (17) Jett Strickenberger (WVU) 19-7
133 – (24) Blake Boarman (PUR) 12-15
141 – (18) Carter Nogle (AF) 25-8
149 – (20) Chance Lamer (NEB) 17-8
157 – (18) DJ McGee (GMU) 24-4
165 – (22) Matthew Olguin (ORST) 17-5
174 – (17) Jared Simma (UNI) 14-9
184 – (18) Jake Dailey (UNC) 18-4
197 – (18) Andrew Reall (BRWN) 34-4
285 – (18) Christian Carroll (WYO) 19-6
First on the forum to report for duty. Well done.
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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Time for my picks:

125 - 26 - Cooper Flynn - CHAT
133 -17 - T.K. Davis - GW
141 - 20 - Julian Tagg - SDSU
149 - 19 - Brock Herman - UALR
157 - 21 - Charlie Millard - MINN
165 - 18 - Noah Mulvaney - BUCK
174 - 25 -Sergio Desiante - VT
184 - 17 - Ian Bush - WVU
197 - 18 - Andrew Reall - BRWN
285 - 26 - Luke Luffman - ILL

Though I am having second thoughts about not having any Columbia wrestlers in the lineup.

Edit: I heard Braeden Scoles is hurt, but is going to attempt to wrestle regardless. So I changed that .
 
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chasepollard

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Time for my picks:

125 - 26 - Cooper Flynn - CHAT
133 -17 - T.K. Davis - GW
141 - 20 - Julian Tagg - SDSU
149 - 19 - Brock Herman - UALR
157 - 21 - Charlie Millard - MINN
165 - 17 -Braeden Scoles - ILL
174 - 25 -Sergio Desiante - VT
184 - 17 - Ian Bush - WVU
197 - 18 - Andrew Reall - BRWN
285 - 26 - Luke Luffman - ILL

Though I am having second thoughts about not having any Columbia wrestlers in the lineup.
I’ll do mine tomorrow but desiante is going to be one of them
 
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topc22blue

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125-18-Moore-Illinois
133-18-Andrick-Maryland
141-18-Nagle-Air Force
149-20-Lamer-Nebraska
157-17-Mechler-Wisconsin
165-19-Mulvaney-Bucknell
174-25-Desisnte-VT
184-18-Dailey-UNC
197-27-Arnold-Iowa
285-18-Carroll-Wyoming
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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We are a little over 24 hours out from the first whistle.

Still time to enter.

What were you planning on doing at work today anyway? Work? Come on.
 

ionel

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125-18-Moore-Illinois
133-18-Andrick-Maryland
141-18-Nagle-Air Force
149-20-Lamer-Nebraska
157-17-Mechler-Wisconsin
165-19-Mulvaney-Bucknell
174-25-Desisnte-VT
184-18-Dailey-UNC
197-27-Arnold-Iowa
285-18-Carroll-Wyoming
Got pick on Arnold, forgot about him, he can stay in a 1-1 match with just about anyone.
 

chasepollard

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125 - #27 Brady Roark (SDSU)
133 - #26 Dylan Shawver (RUT)
141 - #28 Pierson Manville (ASU)
149 - #19 Brock Herman (UALR)
157 - #21 Charlie Millard (Minn)
165 - #20 Ty Whalen (Prin)
174 - #25 Sergio Desiante (VT)
184 - #22 Zach Ryder (OkState)
197 - #19 Zayne Lehman (Ohio)
285 - #18 Christian Carroll (WYO)

I did this without my brackets handy…so fingers crossed.
 

Wrestleknownothing

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125 - #27 Brady Roark (SDSU)
133 - #26 Dylan Shawver (RUT)
141 - #28 Pierson Manville (ASU)
149 - #19 Brock Herman (UALR)
157 - #21 Charlie Millard (Minn)
165 - #20 Ty Whalen (Prin)
174 - #25 Sergio Desiante (VT)
184 - #22 Zach Ryder (OkState)
197 - #19 Zayne Lehman (Ohio)
285 - #18 Christian Carroll (WYO)

I did this without my brackets handy…so fingers crossed.
feels like a winner
 

PoOsKuEs

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125 – 18 - Spencer Moore – Illinois
133 – 22 - Zack Redding – NC State
141 – 17 - Caedyn Ricciardi – NAVY
149 – 20 - Chance Lamer – Neb
157 – 27 - Dylan Evans – Pitt
165 – 18 - Gunner Filipowicz – Army
174 – 19 - Logan Messer – George Mason
184 – 18 - Jake Dailey – UNC
197 – 29 - Colton Hawks - ASU
285 – 20 - Dayton Pitzer - Pitt
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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Entries are beginning to slow down a bit so I thought I would pause and share a statistical update.

So far we have a total of 35 competitors duking it out to be the king of prognosticators. BWI leads the way with 20 entrants, followed by HR with 10, 34AC with 3 and TKR with 2.

Be Not Afraid
The boldest among us is @PUR158. He is not afraid to scan down the seeds to look for the value play. With an average seed among his ten wrestlers of 23.1, he is a full 4.3 slots behind the most conservative swami @parchy who comes in at an average seed of 18.8.



Diversification is Key
No two users picked the same lineup. So hopefully there will be no tie to break as I had not thought about that. But if there is I think I will go with lowest seeded wrestler to score points.

Who Ya Got?
Among the 170 eligible wrestlers seeded #17-#33, you saw fit to bless 79 of them with your statement of confidence. But this is a popularity contest after all, and the most popular is Wyoming's Christian Carroll, favored by 22 of you. Minnesota's Charlie Millard is not far behind with 19 fanboys/girls on these forums.

There were 17 wrestlers who garnered a single vote of confidence. PUR158 and @sdvike chose three of these each. Rugged individualists, those two.



Can't We All Just Get Along?
By weight, 285 was where we agreed the most as only 4 of the 17 wrestlers garnered support.

At the opposite end of the scale is 133. There is zero consensus in the top half of those seeds, so why should there any consensus in the bottom half?



We Get Nowhere Without the Team
Of the 70 teams entered in the tournament, 47 are proud to claim entrants in the 2026 Dark Horse Derby. I fully expect this to serve as the motivation for many of these wrestlers to pull off upsets and then acknowledge their forum supporters by username in their post match interviews.



Stupid Is As Stupid Does
Normally I would provide updates after each of the six sessions. But I did something dumb this year and agreed to speak at a conference without looking at the calendar first. So my plan is to do a single update for both Thursday sessions followed by individual updates per session thereafter. Wish me luck.
 
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colcord

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125 26 Cooper Flynn, Chattanooga
133 17 T.K. Davis, Garnder-Webb
141 20 Julian Tagg, South Dakota State
149 19 Brock Herman, UALR
157 21 Charlie Millard, Minnesota
165 19 Noah Mulvaney Bucknell
174 25 Sergio Desiante, Virginia Tech
184 22 Zack Ryder, Oklahoma State
197 18 Andrew Reall, Brown
285 18 Christian Carroll Wyoming
 

chasepollard

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125 26 Cooper Flynn, Chattanooga
133 17 T.K. Davis, Garnder-Webb
141 20 Julian Tagg, South Dakota State
149 19 Brock Herman, UALR
157 21 Charlie Millard, Minnesota
165 19 Noah Mulvaney Bucknell
174 25 Sergio Desiante, Virginia Tech
184 22 Zack Ryder, Oklahoma State
197 18 Andrew Reall, Brown
285 18 Christian Carroll Wyoming
This is a good one!
 

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125 – 18 - Spencer Moore – Illinois
133 – 22 - Zack Redding – NC State
141 – 17 - Caedyn Ricciardi – NAVY
149 – 20 - Chance Lamer – Neb
157 – 27 - Dylan Evans – Pitt
165 – 18 - Gunner Filipowicz – Army
174 – 19 - Logan Messer – George Mason
184 – 18 - Jake Dailey – UNC
197 – 29 - Colton Hawks - ASU
285 – 20 - Dayton Pitzer - Pitt
Gunner Filipowicz…..great choice!!

I met Gunner’s dad around 2011. My brother and a partner had a self-serve yogurt store that I built him in Roswell, Ga. Gunner’s dad, Dave, brought the family to the store a few times but I never met them. Dave had a really good barbecue restaurant (still does) in the nearby town of Alpharetta (SmokeJack BBQ) When we closed because of poor business he posted a note on the door that he would like to help, if possible, keep our store open because the family really liked going there. So we opened back up and he helped manage the store for free and we became good friends.

We quickly found out we both had a love for wrestling when I told him I grew up in Stillwater and he revealed that his two sons were wrestlers.

His boys, probably in grade school/junior high, loved John Smith.

Our restaurant didn’t survive but I got to know the family well enough that Dave and his two sons, Jack and Gunner, went to Stillwater a couple of summers in a row to attend the John Smith wrestling camps. They became such big fans of OSU that they all went to the Baylor football game in 2013….it was very cold but we stomped them and the Filipowicz’s loved it!!

Before that game they wanted to take in some of Oklahoma’s finest….we went to Bricktown, Cattlemen’s steak house, the Western Heritage Museum, a really cool custom bike shop and a few other BBQ places.

The older son Jack, ended up at Army as a starting offensive linemen at about 6-5 275 and Gunner followed his brother a few years later as a wrestler. For Gunner’s last year or two in high school he transferred to Woodward Academy, a private school south of Atlanta, so he could wrestle for Coach Jeff Regan (OSU wrestler) and then when he started at Army, was coached by Coach Kevin Ward, another OSU wrestler, now an assistant back at OSU.

This all came about because a guy wanted to help a struggling restaurant!

Go Gunner Filipowicz!! Go Army! Go Pokes!
 
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That is an awesome story. I had also been thinking of using him. When I did my info scout he was in my pool at his weight, I tried to have a couple at each weight to sleep a day or 2 on. But it is still a luck draw to a degree
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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We closed on Thursday morning with 47 total entries - 46 of those are real and 1 is a what if. Given the struggles @SlipperyPete had nailing down his lineup I decided to test the grade school teacher warning that you should stick with your first answer, so I kept his original lineup and his revised lineup. We will see if Mrs. Crabapple was right.

Pole Position
@johnstownsteel races out to the early lead by getting points from 9 of his 10 dark horses. What did he know and when did he know it?

But the race is still too close to call. With the likes of @parchy, and @Crablegs1 just a half point behind, and another 4 entrants within 2 points it is still anyone's game.



Coach of the Year
Tom Ryan's people reached out to me this morning from the team bus. They said that after seeing @topc22blue's coaching performance in the first two rounds of the all important 2026 DHD - ALL 10 Dark Horses basking in the light - the coach would not feel right keeping the B1G COTY trophy. I assume the topc stands for Top Coach?

Fun Facts
  • No one lost more than half of their wrestlers in the first two rounds. Good work everyone.
  • I kinda suck at this.
  • ASU's Colton Hawks is only the second #29 seed to make the quarterfinals. He ties Caleb Fish who made the quarters as a #29 seed at 165 in 2023. Fish did not make the semis - falling 4-10 to #5 Quincy Monday. Hawks will face similar long odds when he faces #5 Joey Novak who is coming off a pair of pinfalls.
  • 165 has the most Dark Horse Heroes still alive. At this stage if everything goes chalk the #25 - #33 would be eliminated. But at 165 6 of them are still alive and kicking.
  • 174 is at the other end of the spectrum with 8 of the bottom 9 seeds already done for the weekend.
 

Wrestleknownothing

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@Wrestleknownothing do you have a score update?
See Above Yes GIF by Dash Home Loans
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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Session 3 was some fun. As always there was a lot of Dark Horse on Dark Horse crime.

Achieving Simplification
Like any good mystery we are getting to the part where we achieve simplification. After starting with 170 Dark Horse candidates all but 14 have been taken to the glue factory.

With only 12 wrestlers alive at any weight each of our heroes are defying the odds at this point of the tournament.

And it is the big boys leading the way, with 285 and 197 having the most still alive.



Heading Into The Home Stretch
As our horses make the turn, it is Chance Lamer leading the pack for home. With 10 points scored he is running away from Dayton Pitzer in second place.



The Standings
With today's action there has been a big shakeup in the standings.

@Kiddagger311 takes over the lead from @johnstownsteel who fell all the way to a tie for 16th place. Ha, that guy must not know much. Oh, wait.... there is some jabroni who goes by @Wrestleknownothing. That dude is really putting the nothing in knowledge.

The Kid should not get too comfortable though. @Crablegs1 and @parchy maintain the next two spots again. And with 6 wrestlers still alive crabbie is looking dangerous.

 

Wrestleknownothing

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It is a three man race.



And a three horse race.



With 1.5 points separating the top 3 it comes down to which horses are still alive. To keep this interesting no wrestler who is still wrestling is on all three remaining contending teams.

There is a combination of outcomes that will put @topc22blue on top, a different combination that will put @Rock-man on top, and a third combination that will see @Kiddagger311 leap frog them both for the win. As the English say, it is all to play for.
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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2026 FINAL DARK HORSE DERBY STANDINGS

With an eye for talent like no other and the ability to put together a complete lineup that is rivaled by few, all hail @topc22blue our 2026 Dark Horse Derby Champion. Like PSU he has locked up the title before the finals even start.

Topc, I highly recommend you put this prestigious title at the top of your resume when interviewing for a top recruiting coordinator position. After all with nothing but #17 - #33 seeded wrestlers it looks like you will finish in the top 10 team scores.

To put this in context, last year's winner had 34.5 points. I do not recall the total from the prior, but it was less than that.

Don't anyone bother reading from the bottom up.



At the individual wrestler level anyone who took a chance on lamer was rewarded. From a #20 seed to a 4th place finish aint too shabby.



For those of you who were tempted to take all #17 seeds.....not a great idea.



Finally, if you picked the highest scoring wrestler at each weight your final score would have been 74.