Military Strikes on Iran Imminent

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Green ramp?
Sorry. It’s not important. Pope Army Airfield is co located with Ft Bragg,NC where the 82nd is based. Green ramp is the name of the big parking apron where planes park near big metal sheds where equipment is readied to be loaded, rigged for airdrop etc. also big sheds for paratroopers to do the same. If flying a long distance to the drop zone, parachutes etc would be loaded and then final rigging (putting on parachutes and equipment), and final rigging and positioning of door bundles etc would be done while in flight.

Maybe the alerting of the 82nd is a show of resolve, but I do not think that this admin is bluffing. If they are being alerted, then it’s a real possibility that they could be used.
 
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Trump is going to quickly lose the support of his base. I can’t support this ****.

He ran on NO Wars.
He ran on cutting waste.

He is infinitely better than Kamala Harris so I don’t want to hear any chirping from them.

So disappointed in another war. This is going to last much longer than anticipated and it may spread to WWIII. I think Trump miscalculated. Hope I’m wrong.
 

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Trump is going to quickly lose the support of his base. I can’t support this ****.

He ran on NO Wars.
He ran on cutting waste.

He is infinitely better than Kamala Harris so I don’t want to hear any chirping from them.

So disappointed in another war. This is going to last much longer than anticipated and it may spread to WWIII. I think Trump miscalculated. Hope I’m wrong.
"Trump miscalculated and started a war with Iran and it's probably going to spread to WWIII"

"He is infinitely better than Kamala Harris"

God these maga dudes are so mf stupid

Edit to say- we are 2 weeks out from the maga spin hitting socials and pig boi and the maga ilk who at least *try* and stay consistent will come around to the war with Iran even if it lasts years. Propaganda is a helluva drug
 
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Trump is going to quickly lose the support of his base. I can’t support this ****.

He ran on NO Wars.
He ran on cutting waste.

He is infinitely better than Kamala Harris so I don’t want to hear any chirping from them.

So disappointed in another war. This is going to last much longer than anticipated and it may spread to WWIII. I think Trump miscalculated. Hope I’m wrong.
How are we getting to WWIII?
 
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I could see General Trump taking Kharg Island with the marines.



"From the halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli.
We will fight our nation's battles
In the air, on land, and sea."

That is the Marine hymn.

The Tripoli is headed to the Persian Gulf now.
Loaded with 5000k marines.

We decimated Kharg Island's military defense tonight.
We take their oil, and they are done.
And the Marine's are en route.
Remember their mission.
Land
Air
Sea
We will win this.
Pray for our warriors.
 
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If you want to take & hold Kargh Island, the massive oil terminal that is used to export nearly all of Iran’s oil, a Marine Battalion Landing Team from a MEU is exactly how you’d do it. And Iranian IRGC & Military couldnt do a damn thing about it.

And if you wanted to show China we still know how to kick in the front door to pacific islands, this would be a great way to do it.

Especially given we have total Air Dominance established over the gulf & Iran.
 
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If you want to take & hold Kargh Island, the massive oil terminal that is used to export nearly all of Iran’s oil, a Marine Battalion Landing Team from a MEU is exactly how you’d do it. And Iranian IRGC & Military couldnt do a damn thing about it.

And if you wanted to show China we still know how to kick in the front door to pacific islands, this would be a great way to do it.

Especially given we have total Air Dominance established over the gulf & Iran.

TG, Kharg island controls the entire Iranian oil economy. It has been off limits and out of play no matter how much suffering and death has been promoted by the iranian regime. For decades. Well, after being warned, we just said fu*kit and bombed it. Symbolically, the impact to national will is in the same manner as the Doolittle Raid from the enemy's perspective.

Alerting the 82nd and embarking Marines are also incredible signals of US national will. If this admin sends US troops to occupy Kharg, the only military/tactical reason would be to prevent sabotage of the infrastructure. But IMHO, in reality it's an asymmetric attack against the Iranian gov't legimacy. (e.g. US forces seizing the most critical iranian national asset/territory)

note: we don't want to destroy more infrastructure than absolutely necessary.
 
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I'm one of the ones who really enjoyed my time in the pentagon..Started in DCSRDA and then moved to OCLL. When in DCSRDA, I worked harder than any time in my career. It was the first time I had so much to do that I found myself going from project to project knowing I'd never be able to complete everything by suspense date/time...very stressfull
My experience at the Pentagon was positive. I am glad for it. I was working in the HQDAG3. SOD, during my few years at the pentagon. Had formal trainign in budget, force managment etc. just short of what was needed for a functional area designator in those fields. By choice, Lol. I remember (truthfully) sayng to myself how interesting R&D and Acqusition would be. No kidding. I always thought that that field was interesting. LL? no, sir. Interesting...but nope. I hope, at least you were able to be cool and walk around in a civilian coat and tie?
 

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My experience at the Pentagon was positive. I am glad for it. I was working in the HQDAG3. SOD, during my few years at the pentagon. Had formal trainign in budget, force managment etc. just short of what was needed for a functional area designator in those fields. By choice, Lol. I remember (truthfully) sayng to myself how interesting R&D and Acqusition would be. No kidding. I always thought that that field was interesting. LL? no, sir. Interesting...but nope. I hope, at least you were able to be cool and walk around in a civilian coat and tie?
yep, civilian suit and tie...but downside, I had to buy a couple of suits. I was pushed into the job, wanted to stay in Program Management. But that move turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me...led to 10 years with a top defense contractor, and continued working with House and Senate. It paid well also.

At that time, I had no idea about politics, Congress. In fact, I couldn't have named either my Represenative or senators
 

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How are we getting to WWIII?

If you don’t see how this could quickly turn to WWIII I don’t think you are paying attention. I know you are so I’m not sure how hi don’t see it.

Russia is siding with Iran. Iran is targeting the other countries nearby. China may smell weakness and try to move on Taiwan because we have our hands full.

The longer this war drags on the more likely others get drawn in.


I’m just really disappointed. No more wars turned out to be the no new taxes of this era.
 
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It really is crazy that half of this country pulls against this country. Not only do they pull against our warriors putting their life on the line, but they hope something goes wrong, because orange man is mean. It’s phucking disgusting
 
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My experience at the Pentagon was positive. I am glad for it. I was working in the HQDAG3. SOD, during my few years at the pentagon. Had formal trainign in budget, force managment etc. just short of what was needed for a functional area designator in those fields. By choice, Lol. I remember (truthfully) sayng to myself how interesting R&D and Acqusition would be. No kidding. I always thought that that field was interesting. LL? no, sir. Interesting...but nope. I hope, at least you were able to be cool and walk around in a civilian coat and tie?
My grandpa loved his time there as well. So much so that he and my grandmother are buried overlooking it at Arlington.
 

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I’m going to bet my car that the very people saying President Trump underestimated the Iranian regime, had no plan, or didn’t know what he was getting into…

…are the same people who had ZERO idea where Kharg Island was or why it matters until it was bombed a few hours ago.

Let me explain why this place matters.

Kharg Island is not just some random island in the Persian Gulf.
It is the economic jugular vein of the Iranian regime.

• Roughly 90% of Iran’s crude oil exports move through this single island.
• It hosts Iran’s largest oil export terminal.
• It has a loading capacity of ~7 million barrels per day.
• Tankers leave from here carrying oil primarily to China and India.

In simple terms:

No Kharg Island.
No oil exports.
No oil exports.
No regime revenue.

And without oil revenue, the Iranian regime has a serious problem funding:

• The IRGC
• Proxy militias across the Middle East
• Weapons programs
• Regional destabilization

This is why Kharg Island has always been considered one of Iran’s most strategic assets.

If you were looking for a pressure point on the regime without launching a ground war…

this is exactly where you would look.

So before the usual commentators start declaring “no strategy” or “reckless escalation,” it’s worth asking a simple question:

Did they even know this island existed before today?

These people need a class on geography by AOC.
 
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Israel isn’t going to use a nuke. There is no benefit. Only downside.

They didn’t use nukes when they were literally facing annihilation from ground invasion during the Yom Kippur war and this isn’t at that point.
 
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Israel isn’t going to use a nuke. There is no benefit. Only downside.

They didn’t use nukes when they were literally facing annihilation from ground invasion during the Yom Kippur war and this isn’t at that point.
Im starting to worry. Not totally worried yet, i do agree we are a ways off from that point. However, i don't have to tell you, war is ugly and unpredictable and things change quickly.

IF, big if, Netanyahu is really dead and Iran starts making headway on Israel, Israels back will be against the wall. Not a position you want a nuclear power to be in.
 

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Im starting to worry. Not totally worried yet, i do agree we are a ways off from that point. However, i don't have to tell you, war is ugly and unpredictable and things change quickly.

IF, big if, Netanyahu is really dead and Iran starts making headway on Israel, Israels back will be against the wall. Not a position you want a nuclear power to be in.
now, I don't know the absolute details of what Iran has left, but how would you ever conceive that Iran would make headway with Israel? Through lobbing missiles...the israelis have taken out their manufacturing, Israelis have control of the sky's and could bomb/fire at will at any Iranian possible ground incursion and how would Iran even get troops there? Israel/US are in the drivers seat now. Yep Iran can still do damage, but in relation to what Israel can do, it's not comparable
 

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I keep reading that we've taken out all of Iran's missile capability so these must be drone attacks. The attacks seem to be never ending. What does it take to wipe out their drones? I assume they are spread out all over the country.
 
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If you don’t see how this could quickly turn to WWIII I don’t think you are paying attention. I know you are so I’m not sure how hi don’t see it.

Russia is siding with Iran. Iran is targeting the other countries nearby. China may smell weakness and try to move on Taiwan because we have our hands full.

The longer this war drags on the more likely others get drawn in.


I’m just really disappointed. No more wars turned out to be the no new taxes of this era.
What would you do at this point?
 

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I keep reading that we've taken out all of Iran's missile capability so these must be drone attacks. The attacks seem to be never ending. What does it take to wipe out their drones? I assume they are spread out all over the country.
all of these - missiles and drones are easy to hide and Iran had a lot of them. I would guess that if, as reported, Israel has taken out the manufacturing facilities, Iranian leadership is trying to come up with a plan to use their remaining inventory to do as maximum damage as possible or hold on to what they have left so they're not totally emasculated after they give up.

I imagine Iranian leadership has seen what Israel did in Gaza and doesn't want to find themselves in a similar - bombed backed to the stone age - situation. Sometimes living to fight another day becomes the wisest strategy. But who knows, senior men looking at 72 virgins has a lot of appeal. I often wonder where all these virgins are coming from
 
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Those are all tragic losses. I just wonder where your outcry was when a few thousand Americans died in Afghanistan during Obama's surge or Biden's pullout. Or those who died during Obama's attacks on Libya, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, and Somalia.

It makes me think you only look at things with a liberal bias.
What a tired-*** whataboutism - are you monitoring my outcries weirdo? We had already obliterated Iran's nuclear program so chalk these deaths up to a war of choice to pay Bibi back for stroking Donnie's massive, demented ego.

 

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Trump is going to quickly lose the support of his base. I can’t support this ****.

He ran on NO Wars.
He ran on cutting waste.

He is infinitely better than Kamala Harris so I don’t want to hear any chirping from them.

So disappointed in another war. This is going to last much longer than anticipated and it may spread to WWIII. I think Trump miscalculated. Hope I’m wrong.
I half agree. My concern from the beginning was the same as in Ukraine. How does this thing end?

I think it's too early to say this is lasting longer than anticipated because Trump said 4 weeks. I do agree that it seems to be headed in that direction. Even if the bombing stops we'll need some sort of deal to open the water routes. Iran also needs to end this because they aren't shipping oil.

The people of Iran will be upset if Trump doesn't overthrow the government but I don't see that happening.

I don't think this will become WWIII. China & Russia won't want to go to war with the USA but they will want the oil to start flowing.
 
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"Trump miscalculated and started a war with Iran and it's probably going to spread to WWIII"

"He is infinitely better than Kamala Harris"
Do you want to bet on WWIII?

Do you think Kama's "DON'T strategy would have been more effective?
 
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Do you want to bet on WWIII?

Do you think Kama's "DON'T strategy would have been more effective?
I think you know entering this war was incredibly stupid and you're trying to rationalize it by posting through it. Keep posting, you'll get there