The problem is the NCAA and what they call NIL. You can call it NIL all you want. Are restaurants, car dealerships, financial institutions, sneaker companies using any of our players names, images, or likeness to profit? Maybe there's a video game out there that's paying each player $2,500 each as a royalty. But this is pure pay for play extortion. It's a joke. If the big east takes a chunk of money and gives it to each school as revenue share for tv rights, that's cool. Everyone would then be equal, but this is extortion under the guise of NIL
Sums up our season by coach
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In the world of college minor league basketball, Seton Hall had an average season but it gets elevated to good based on expectations and where the program was last season.
Next season coming off this average to good year, more is expected.
If it moves you to donate to play the players, do it. If it doesn't move you to donate to pay the players, don't do it. Neither side should be criticizing the other.
Next season coming off this average to good year, more is expected.
If it moves you to donate to play the players, do it. If it doesn't move you to donate to pay the players, don't do it. Neither side should be criticizing the other.
Sha got extended 2 years ago after the NIT, after 1 horrendous season and 1 good but not good enough season, he doesn't deserve another extension/raise.
He's being mentioned as possibilities for other jobs because he's respected around the country as a guy who gets the most out of his players and his teams play extremely hard.
It's his Agent's job to push for a raise and extension after every season and to try to play up any positives and job interest that he can.
It's Felt's job to know the market and to do what's best for the University. He needs to tell his Agent we can talk extension next year if he makes the NCAAT. Any "raise" after this season has to be in the player pool. We need to beg, borrow and steal to raise the payroll to what is expected to be BE average - $10M+.
We have a 2nd team All BE PG and a quality P4/BE Center on our team that can return. Two critical positions. They have proven they can play here, have the right temperament and can play for Sha, we have to bring them back and supply enough budget to fill in around them with quality players. We need guys who can create offense for themselves, shoot and pass and bigger, stronger, athletes.
He's being mentioned as possibilities for other jobs because he's respected around the country as a guy who gets the most out of his players and his teams play extremely hard.
It's his Agent's job to push for a raise and extension after every season and to try to play up any positives and job interest that he can.
It's Felt's job to know the market and to do what's best for the University. He needs to tell his Agent we can talk extension next year if he makes the NCAAT. Any "raise" after this season has to be in the player pool. We need to beg, borrow and steal to raise the payroll to what is expected to be BE average - $10M+.
We have a 2nd team All BE PG and a quality P4/BE Center on our team that can return. Two critical positions. They have proven they can play here, have the right temperament and can play for Sha, we have to bring them back and supply enough budget to fill in around them with quality players. We need guys who can create offense for themselves, shoot and pass and bigger, stronger, athletes.
Being a troll is one thing, but a clueless troll is the worst.
You must be new to SH basketball, it's always been a struggle. We're in good shape with this coach in the new world of college athletics.
yeah, you're killing it, on here acting the fool at 10:30 on Saturday morning.
How did his weave work out with $10MM to spend at Nova?
Asleep at the wheel. His first order of business was to come after me with a diatribe he must have been concocting for a couple of years. We have more trolls than I've ever seen, and they have free reign to endlessly slam the University and program from top down, insult those that disagree with them, and it's been 3 months of it.
But the amount of NIL had nothing to do with that, or why the top 3 teams in league also have the top 3 payrolls (or damned close to it). lol
Very well said. We need donations, though; so if anyone is sitting back criticizing and not donating, they don't have a leg to stand on. Now we've got geniuses saying NIL is just an "excuse," which isn't worth arguing.
2 hall of fame coaches who win nattys and raise the money themselves. And you think our coach who’s done nothing and puts in no effort to raise the money should have the same resources as Hurley and Pitino. Wow you are beyond clueless. You really have no idea how the world works. Go read a book, wake up, and educate yourself. Embarrassing
You are absolutely clueless and a troll Shah has in fact, solicited donors for NIL contributions. Why don’t you do us a favor and stink up some other message board?
For the record (different username because I got locked out of rivals in the switch) I was the first to predict that Sha wasn’t going to automatically be wooden here..and I was hammered pretty hard for thwt but whatever
I think he’s a fine decent coach..don’t think he should be fired. Like how WHEN
He can get buy-in it seems like kids will go all out for him.
However, I have first hand knowledge I think he’s pretty clueless working with or in NIL and that makes me nervous..he’s also an insane control freak who will never change. So the people who post I hope sha learn x or develops y..you’re clueless..this is it
So if he left to me it’s eh..but since he’s here I hope he continues to get guys who will play for him and buy in and he can scrap together more wins and get to a NCAAT and become relevant again
I think he’s a fine decent coach..don’t think he should be fired. Like how WHEN
He can get buy-in it seems like kids will go all out for him.
However, I have first hand knowledge I think he’s pretty clueless working with or in NIL and that makes me nervous..he’s also an insane control freak who will never change. So the people who post I hope sha learn x or develops y..you’re clueless..this is it
So if he left to me it’s eh..but since he’s here I hope he continues to get guys who will play for him and buy in and he can scrap together more wins and get to a NCAAT and become relevant again
Interesting—thought he’d been dead for a while! And if he was alive would have better things to do than solicit donations for our NIL!
I think it is possible that: (1) Sha is a good coach; but (2) not the best coach for us. With our resource limitations we need someone flexible, innovative, creative, etc. And it just doesn’t seem like that’s his MO.
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Not good enough to win 2 big games all year and they had plenty of them. They beat Wisconsin, nobody else good. They beat up on pure crap just like we did, but they did it better than us as they swept Depaul and us. Willard didn't do nearly as good of a job as he is getting credit for. They were just best of the rest after UConn and SJU.
Here’s someone who doesn’t have a very strong grasp of the situation.
Remember when your username was your email address? Good times.
Here’s someone who clearly can’t read. Everything that was stated is facts. Sorry!
“Many teams with less..” Not credible in no small part than the fact that no one actually knows the numbers.
Wow another big mouth on an anonymous fan message board. Obviously you don’t contribute, that’s fine. I give because I want my university to be put in a good light. And I enjoy that SHU plays hoops at the P5 level. I contribute to other parts of the University and other causes I think worthy. But hey you have all the answers with none of the knowledge, history or context of Seton Hall basketball. You think it’s a waste of money I don’t. And when you can’t respond intelligently, please try not to call people names. It’s really immature .
Miami had like $1m and went undefeated and pretty much a lock. decent teams in bad conferences can have it easier.
The school is always a year behind. Teams spend 3 million on a team so it was determined they need 3 for the next. The problem was next season teams spent 6 million. So the following season SHU spends 6 million but everyone spends 10 million. Where does it end ?
First year coach, had florida in ooc played byu grown thanksgiving week and got Ole miss in sec crossover. Very similar to villanova...soft league beat the teams below them
That's my point. It's stupid to compare their records when one was facing a lot of tournament teams.
or that you could finish almost anywhere in the big east and get a birth and they still didn't....
There were times the same could be said for PJ.
nobody was born. It’s a berth not a birth
I’m still trying to figure out the sustainability of a small, Catholic, private university spending an additional 10M+ a year to field a competitive basketball team.
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Agreed. I’ve questioned it several times.. it won’t be sustainable. Separate owners/investors who take all ROI is the only future possible.I’m still trying to figure out the sustainability of a small, Catholic, private university spending an additional 10M+ a year to field a competitive basketball team.
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especially since as SPK pointed out that we make only 9M a year in revenue. Sounds like most governments I know.I’m still trying to figure out the sustainability of a small, Catholic, private university spending an additional 10M+ a year to field a competitive basketball team.
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