Ferrari/Welsh non stall calls and singlet grabs

js8793

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Angelo was a major bright spot on a rough day imo. That version can still win a title though it’s certainly not likely. His performance today changed the count for possible NCAA champions from 0 to 1 imo.

The hawks didn’t wrestle that poorly today and that’s the problem. This is the result of a weak lineup, not a bad performance. That’s why there’s so little hope for NCAAs and beyond for so many fans.
 

baltimorened

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Angelo was a major bright spot on a rough day imo. That version can still win a title though it’s certainly not likely. His performance today changed the count for possible NCAA champions from 0 to 1 imo.

The hawks didn’t wrestle that poorly today and that’s the problem. This is the result of a weak lineup, not a bad performance. That’s why there’s so little hope for NCAAs and beyond for so many fans.
I have to admit to being surprise at Iowa's standing. After the Iowa-Penn State dual, I thought that Iowa was really not that far behind PS. There were a lot of competitive matches that with a turn one way or another could have been won by Iowa. I was really surprised at the Block match...4 stalling calls..and at the end of the match he had absolutely nothing left. At this point in the season I would have thought he would be at peak condition, unless he had just been physically beaten down by the season
 

mcpat

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At the officials’ pre-tournament meeting, they vet how they are going to call technical violations and stalling on Penn State and how they are going to call them differently for Iowa.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Is Bouzakis stalling right now on his knee? Is it stalling when Drake does it?
Depends , in the first Ferrari/Welsh match Angela spent almost 3 minutes on one knee. I think it was like two minutes and 40 seconds or 45 seconds.. that's not stalling, that's taking a break lol.
 
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IRON HAWK

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At the officials’ pre-tournament meeting, they vet how they are going to call technical violations and stalling on Penn State and how they are going to call them differently for Iowa.
Funny thing about this, which is NOT funny is, I would NOT doubt it!!! IF you do NOT see the BIAS, you are BLIND!!! VERY clear that the DRUGGED up POS grabbed his singlet THREEE times!!!!

There was a hell of a lot more though as you can clearly see in MANY matches the way the POS refs call it for F*** st. IF it was a one time thing, you could say, the POS made a mistake? When it is EVERY time though......


How about that 'CrackHead" Davis??? That POS gets into a fight every other match it seems!!!! He took a swing at a kid. The ref blew the whistle. Kid walked back to center and kinda got into Davis's face and the POS ref started warning the other kid!!!! Then Davis's took another swing at the kid right on the next start!!!

YES it happened and it is on video!!!! ANY other skool would have been warned and at least a point if not thrown out!
 

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Funny thing about this, which is NOT funny is, I would NOT doubt it!!! IF you do NOT see the BIAS, you are BLIND!!! VERY clear that the DRUGGED up POS grabbed his singlet THREEE times!!!!

There was a hell of a lot more though as you can clearly see in MANY matches the way the POS refs call it for F*** st. IF it was a one time thing, you could say, the POS made a mistake? When it is EVERY time though......


How about that 'CrackHead" Davis??? That POS gets into a fight every other match it seems!!!! He took a swing at a kid. The ref blew the whistle. Kid walked back to center and kinda got into Davis's face and the POS ref started warning the other kid!!!! Then Davis's took another swing at the kid right on the next start!!!

YES it happened and it is on video!!!! ANY other skool would have been warned and at least a point if not thrown out!
 
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Fredolay

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Funny thing about this, which is NOT funny is, I would NOT doubt it!!! IF you do NOT see the BIAS, you are BLIND!!! VERY clear that the DRUGGED up POS grabbed his singlet THREEE times!!!!

There was a hell of a lot more though as you can clearly see in MANY matches the way the POS refs call it for F*** st. IF it was a one time thing, you could say, the POS made a mistake? When it is EVERY time though......


How about that 'CrackHead" Davis??? That POS gets into a fight every other match it seems!!!! He took a swing at a kid. The ref blew the whistle. Kid walked back to center and kinda got into Davis's face and the POS ref started warning the other kid!!!! Then Davis's took another swing at the kid right on the next start!!!

YES it happened and it is on video!!!! ANY other skool would have been warned and at least a point if not thrown out!

Not only crazy, you gotta live in Iowa…..
 

JoeBagobagels

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Lol, this isn't quite the gotcha you think it is.

Funny thing about this, which is NOT funny is, I would NOT doubt it!!! IF you do NOT see the BIAS, you are BLIND!!! VERY clear that the DRUGGED up POS grabbed his singlet THREEE times!!!!

There was a hell of a lot more though as you can clearly see in MANY matches the way the POS refs call it for F*** st. IF it was a one time thing, you could say, the POS made a mistake? When it is EVERY time though......


How about that 'CrackHead" Davis??? That POS gets into a fight every other match it seems!!!! He took a swing at a kid. The ref blew the whistle. Kid walked back to center and kinda got into Davis's face and the POS ref started warning the other kid!!!! Then Davis's took another swing at the kid right on the next start!!!

YES it happened and it is on video!!!! ANY other skool would have been warned and at least a point if not thrown out!
Davis is not a crackhead, this is more like his personality:

 

TherealGrip220

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One guy (Rocco) moved forward, one guy (Ferraro) retreated and wrestled on the edge. If you are asking, sorry you missed the match.
one guy took multiple shots (AF) one guy did not! one guy grabbed a singlet multiple times to win (Meathead) one guy did not!
Oh and Rocco has done this several times this season never getting called.

One more thing, every year there is one guy on Pedstate that screams Im on the ****, two years ago it was Brooks, last year it was Kasak, this year its Welsh. Very very clear to see yet somehow they get away with it
 

JoeBagobagels

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one guy took multiple shots (AF) one guy did not! one guy grabbed a singlet multiple times to win (Meathead) one guy did not!
Oh and Rocco has done this several times this season never getting called.

One more thing, every year there is one guy on Pedstate that screams Im on the ****, two years ago it was Brooks, last year it was Kasak, this year its Welsh. Very very clear to see yet somehow they get away with it
 
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cwobrien11

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I don’t really care about the stalling/not stalling questions, especially at 184. When you get a top 5-10 matchup at 184, it’s almost always a 2-1, 3-2, SV, or TB match. Everyone of them is so afraid of making a mistake that they wait for the right opportunity to try something. The stalking debate comes down to the refs, the matchups, and the perception of how the match is going. Not worth wasting time thinking about.

The singlet pulls are frustrating. They directly changed the outcome of the match. Welsh won by 4 seconds of riding time in TB’s. Two of the singlet pulls occurred in TB’s when Ferrari was trying to escape. Either one of those could have prevented Ferrari from escaping. Maybe, maybe not but it’s no different than grabbing a guys shoe laces or locking hands. It’s an illegal advantage.

The most egregious pull was on the takedown attempt. Ferrari was elevating Welsh and was adjusting him to tip when Welsh grabbed the singlet to keep his balance. I have no idea how none of the coaches saw it. I have no idea how two refs missed it. There’s no denying that it happened. That’s a 3 point takedown negated in a match that went to SV.

There’s no way to go back and fix it. It is what it is. I’m just hoping that this comes up when the refs do their post-tournament review and discussion. This sort of stuff can’t happen at nationals.
 

McUSA

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Angelo was a major bright spot on a rough day imo. That version can still win a title though it’s certainly not likely. His performance today changed the count for possible NCAA champions from 0 to 1 imo.
Agreed. The loss to Welsh in that fashion only happens in Happy Valley. I don’t think Angelo loses to him again, maybe ever. And I think everyone knows it including PSU fans deep down. Hope it’s another QF match at Nationals.
 

IRON HAWK

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Not only crazy, you gotta live in Iowa…..
OK, at least back up your B*LLSHEET!!!! The pictures and video clearly shows the DRUGGED up POS grabbing the singlet. So YOU being like---I don't know OJ's lawyer??? clam what???? It did not happened!>!>!>!> I/EVERYONE did NOT see what we saw?????

^^^ Part 1) part TWOOOOO- the POS refs have been good and NON-bias in your view????

Listen, HONESTLY, it is one thing to be a bandwagon wanna be JERK-OFF on the IOWA board!!!!! It is totally another to be a JERK-OFF who is also a lying scumbag!!!!

YOU and others come here, OK, do like I did on your POS board, before I was thrown off for claiming Babblin was on the SHeeettttt CORRECTLY!!!!!

I was HONEST, so you can be like. We in LowLyingSwamp, do not give a rats *** HOW we win, as long as WE win!!! Then at least, us here on the IOWA board know that you do not care about RULES, DRUGS, SEXUAL ASSUALTS etc..... It is WIN at ALL costs!!! B1G FU to the POS ncaa!!!! B1G FU to college sports!!! B1G FU to USA wrestling etc.....

You know, IF you think about the MOB and REAL GANSTERS, some of which I have met. That is basically how they look at things!!! It is NOT morally correct, but hey, MANY love it!!! Look at "MOB" movies for example. People gettin "WACKED" which most likely aint something to celebrate but........

You know Lance Armstrong won many cyclin races........ Barry Bonds has the HR record according to some people..... They would NOT put Pete Rose in the HALL!!!! The ENTIRE Russian wrestling team has been banned for how long???? The "greatest" POS chinese weight lifter was not even allowed to go to the last Olympics by HIS government because he could NOT pass the DRUG tests!!!!

Your program and Kralure are a DISGRACE to me and EVERYONE who holds sports/especially WRESTLING in a higher place!!! ADMIT you are on the other side, and TRY to defend your POS position

I would have more respect for you then!!!
 
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What did Rocco do? Are you asking besides chasing Ferrari? Even if I hadn't watched the match I would know how Ferrari got in on shots. Ferrari only comes forward on a knee, he is always retreating looking to shoot as his opponent steps forward into a shot. If Rocco doesn't chase Ferrari then Ferrari would have never been able to reach Rocco's legs from way over there.
"If Rocco had stalled even harder Ferrari would not have gotten in on shots"
 
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