I've really dug into their metrics, and they've played one Q2 game and zero Q1 games. Over half of their games have been Q4. They can cry about supposedly being turned away from being scheduled but Akron did not have that problem. All records are not equal, and 30 of their wins are Q3/Q4 games. The MAC is not a two bid league. My opinion and I hope the committee agrees, win your conference tournament or no bid.
Miami of Ohio does NOT deserve a tournament bid
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Would be the first one loss team to ever miss the tourney.
There is a first for everything. I'd like to compare the metrics of all other one loss teams.
Not their fault. What they’ve done is impressive.
True. So what bubble team would you take over them?
It absolutely is their fault when it comes to scheduling.
I watched their game last night against Ohio and it was crazy. That said, a slow, 6’2” castoff from ISU (Pavaletzky) almost by himself ended their run. Miami should get in, but as a 10 seed or lower.
If they don't win their conference tournament. You could talk me into first four maybe.
You say they shouldn’t make it. That means you need to replace them with a bubble team. You gonna answer that or not?
I'm not sure, but Tulsa even has a better resume.
Yep, let’s just make it all Power 5 conference teams. So much fun. 31-0. Cmon man. Big schools have every advantage in the world. They never have to go play true non con road games, and mid major teams get very very few (if any ) chances against Power 5 schools.
Lol, they're 31-0. Even against poor teams they still won every single time. Lose 3 or 4 games and we have a discussion. But until they actually lose to ANY team you can't say they aren't capable of beating a tournament team. Iowa is a tournament team and managed to lose to last place Maryland and then their last place replacement Penn St. I'd bet Miami against those two.
Miami team seems to be having fun with the other team's student section ... they are the villain in their conference.
I haven't seen any of their games, but still, 31-0 is impressive. If they get to the tourney, they'll be facing probably the toughest team or one of the toughest teams they've faced all year. That would put to rest any speculation of how good they really are.
They're 31-0 but they shouldn't get a bid? There will be much less deserving teams in the tournament.
The wins over Indiana East, Milligan, and Trinity Christian separate them from the less deserving teams is my guess.
Why'd you pick those two? At least they've played Q1 games.
And lost all of them as well as a bunch of Q3 and Q4 games. I could have picked 5 or 6 others as well. I was wondering how you decided that an undefeated MAC team was undeserving when there are so many others from less competitive conferences with much worse records that will be competing in the tournament.
It's been well documented that teams like this attempt to schedule tough non-con, but can't because the tougher competition is afraid to take the risk. Which makes this thread a bit on the moot side... Or complain about the system, not about a team winning all it's game. Wow. Just wow.
Are you referencing a certain NW Missouri State/Duke matchup?
Ohio is a big rival for them in basketball. Their students also taunted them the whole game, so you're gonna get this sort of behavior afterwards by Gen Z student athletes. Just the way it's trending across college sports more and more each year.
Doesn't make it right. It just means I get to look down upon these younger generations with impunity.
You really dug into their metrics? The information you gave I found in about 30 seconds, Genius.
Their NET ranking is in the 50s. If they don't win the MAC Tourney, they will not get an NCAA bid. Plain and simple.
Lol.
It never ceases to amaze me year after year how triggered casual fans of P5 teams get simply because random mid or low major teams in a distant land are merely winning a lot of basketball games.
They have less than zero impact on Iowa's (insert your favorite team) season and yet because they went 31-0 you act like a Nebraska fan slapped your dying mother.
It's f***ing hilarious. And there's people like you across the country triggered by teams like Miami year after year.
Deal with it.
They are more of a lock to make the tournament than Iowa, and Iowa is a lock to make the tournament, although we're suppose to be quiet about that and let our fans worry that we're gonna miss it, so that it'll be a big surprise.
They are more of a lock to make the tournament than Iowa, and Iowa is a lock to make the tournament, although we're suppose to be quiet about that and let our fans worry that we're gonna miss it, so that it'll be a big surprise.
Your wisdom > OP's genius
I don't think Iowa is a lock for the NCAA's until they win their first BTT game (probably will be against Oregon), and their NET ranking is almost 30 points higher than Miami (OH). I haven't seen a single bracket projection currently putting Miami at a higher seed than Iowa, so there is absolutely no reason to believe that they are more of a lock to make the NCAA's compared to Iowa. Not saying that I agree with that; I'd much rather see a team like them in the NCAA's than a 9th or 10th B1G/SEC team; it's just the way things seem to be right now.
I fear that Iowa will lose to Oregon.
No matter their metrics, I just don't see a 30some & 1 team being left out .... unless Miami(OH) loses their opening MACT game by an outrageously crazy margin, they deserve an at-large bid.
Sets a bit of a dangerous precedent to tell a team that goes undefeated until its conference tournament - and with 30+ wins under its belt - that you aren't deserving of a chance to Dance.
Sets a bit of a dangerous precedent to tell a team that goes undefeated until its conference tournament - and with 30+ wins under its belt - that you aren't deserving of a chance to Dance.
I think you’re dead wrong I’d love to see them play, that’s what makes this tournament the showcase of all team sports. Again your statement was dead wrong and Stupid.
They have a NET of 53. That may, and I emphasize "may", persuade the committee to not consider them if they lose the Championship game in tourney. Who knows for sure?
I see that argument, but if that is what happens - they lose in the MACT final - they will be 32 or 33-1.
I personally don't see a team with 32+ wins (& 1 loss) getting left out.
But, that said, I have been wrong a lot in my life so its definitely not any kind of guarantee.