UConn and UCLA are the top of the class in that order....then S. Carolina then Texas.
MUCH rather be in Texas side of the bracket. Not saying we would beat them, but I am sayin we COULD. I don't have that same feeling about UConn or UCLA.
*****Michigan vs Iowa BTT Game Thread*****
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MUCH rather be in Texas side of the bracket. Not saying we would beat them, but I am sayin we COULD. I don't have that same feeling about UConn or UCLA.
Or just 2 more turnovers. And BTW, Layla is a 35% foul shooter in conference play. Mallegni is 25%.
Cool. Now do the same with the Maryland game. Are you really arguing that the decision to replace all of the starters with 4 minutes left wasn't in retrospect fraught with some degree of risk vs leaving the starters in for just another 2 minutes to close it out?
Frankly I don't even want to argue about this anymore because they won, and I'm ecstatic that they are where they are today and they wouldn't be where they are without Jan who has done a great job building and developing this team.
She's been fabulous and the stats don't even do justice to how important she's been to this team over the last month or so.
Two turnovers and two made threes in 10-11 seconds? Iowa also had a timeout left to advance the basketball if needed.
And yes, Hannah is playing with an injured elbow, Ava Heiden has been getting over illness, Chit-Chat plays 35+ mins a game and Kylie has to guard Olivia Olson today. An extra few minutes of rest when you fully expected Michigan to roll Oregon and get the same rest is important.
You're trying too hard and your arguments are specious at best. It wasn't just the last 11 seconds in question. It was the last 3-4 minutes with all of the reserves and don't say it doesn't happen because it does and it has, and it was especially likely with the group who was out on the floor who were way more likely to turn it over than score a basket. It wasn't good. 2 minutes of rest doesn't mean shat in the grand scheme of things. First game in 5 days and Ava only played 18 minutes last night. She's had tougher practices. At least leave Strem or Chit Chat in there to run the offense. Addie isn't capable of that yet.
Note to Jan. If you do beat Michigan don’t press UCLA. Not sure what Ohio State is thinking.
That’s OSU style. But it doesn’t really matter against UCLA.
There was nothing disrespectful on either side. She had no obligation to sit her starters just because her opponent decided to do it. They were still playing to win. There's nothing wrong with that.
Well. OSU is hanging. Lots of missed shots by both teams. 14-10 ucla end of 1.
Interesting to watch teams like UCLa (and UCOnn, South Carolina, etc) and see what Iowa needs to do to reach that level. Still a big gap. And it’s not skill. But everything to do with length, size, athleticism. Iowa is undersized at the 1, 2, 3 compared fo the teams and not as athletic. Skill wise comparable.
Not to mention UCLA had four bench players on the floor at the same time--in the 2nd quarter. They're just stacked.
It is, just as it is in pretty much every sport. The biggest talent discrepancy between those teams at the very top and everyone else isn't always in the starters. It's often with the backups.
Good sportsmanship is not obligated, I understand that this is an outdated concept with some, but it is the way that things were done. We’ll find out next year when Iowa plays Illinois.
I just don't see it as a lack of sportsmanship. Your opponent has no obligation to quit trying to win a game. I think that's a ridiculous expectation.Good sportsmanship is not obligated, I understand that this is an outdated concept with some, but it is the way that things were done. We’ll find out next year when Iowa plays Illinois.
It's a lot better than limping back to Champaign-Urbana.
And how would everyone feel if Hanna had reinjured her arm and was out for the rest of the season because Jan kept her in for the final 4 minutes in a 22-point game? Or if any of the other starters had been hurt and were out for the rest of the season? Then the message board experts would be demanding to know why Jan didn't put in the reserves with a 22-point lead. LOL
Jan did the right thing. The Iowa reserves are way better than they showed yesterday, and I'm pretty sure they learned something from that experience while keeping the Iowa rotation safe to win another day.
How long does it take to suffer a season-ending injury? Maybe check with Taylor McCabe on that one. Jan did the right thing, and anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know squat. As I said in another post, can you imagine the message board response if Hanna stayed in with a 22-point lead and reinjured her arm, or if Ava had twisted an ankle, or if Stremlow had ripped an ACL or . . .
The Illinois coach keeping her starters in against the Iowa reserves was a totally bullshitt move. Do you think the Illinois reserves appreciated NOT getting to play in the Big Ten Tournament despite their team getting blown out? LOL
Who does Jan think she is, the dictator and his minions? Only they are infallible. And besides, who gives a damn about a basketball game when Armageddon and the end of the world is nigh, am I right? LOLRight? Like I said I'm a Jan fan, but she's not Jesus Christ. She's fallible, just like you.
I'm sorry, well, sorta, maybe, maybe not, but how stupid are you? If anyone had been injured in those last 4 minutes with Iowa up by 22, you'd have been the first one on here to say how ridiculous it was to have your starters in. Ask Taylor McCabe how long it takes to suffer a season-ending injury. And Hannah's already hurt.
Wow.
Still playing to win . . . That's a good one. Illinois had 36 minutes to try to win, and they failed miserably, trailing by a mere 22 points. Nice try.
Sure. But then why in the hell do teams just dribble out the last possession or two when the game is clearly over? Why don't they keep playing rough and tough basketball? What Illinois did yesterday is bullshitt, plain and simple. They couldn't get it done in 36 minutes, the game was over, and Iowa did the right thing. Illinois didn't. But screw them. They're home resting now while Iowa moves on.
4 minutes isn't the last possession. Did Illinois attempt to foul on their last possession? If so then you'd have an argument. We saw what happened against Maryland. They were down 17 with less than 4 minutes. Are we mad because they didn't give up trying to win the game?
Mighty UCLA leads Ohio State by eight (62-54) with 4:38 to play . . .
UCLA wins 72-62, mostly because OSU let one player shoot, and miss, the last four minutes. Had they played team offense, they had a real chance to win. In any event, if Iowa faces UCLA tomorrow, I think they will have a chance to pull off the upset.
UCLA wins 72-62, mostly because OSU let one player shoot, and miss, the last four minutes. Had they played team offense, they had a real chance to win. In any event, if Iowa faces UCLA tomorrow, I think they will have a chance to pull off the upset.
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If we had keep the starters in and anyone of them had gotten hurt then this message board would have been crying to fire the the coach.
Can't make everyone happy!!!! Even when they win there's a bunch of bitching!! Brink back Fran
Can't make everyone happy!!!! Even when they win there's a bunch of bitching!! Brink back Fran
I think it's immediately after the argument clinic if I remember correctlyThere's a game today?
If we had keep the starters in and anyone of them had gotten hurt then this message board would have been crying to fire the the coach.
Can't make everyone happy!!!! Even when they win there's a bunch of bitching!! Bring back Fran
I demand it!!!
UCLA wins by 10 points, roughly the margin they held most of the game. Rather comfortable win, but they didn't exactly look unbeatable. OSU got virtually nothing from their post play.
Jaloni Cambridge was off on her outside shot and even when she did get open she passed on most of her 3 point looks.
Iowa starters:
| POS | # | NAME | Class | GP | PPG | RPG | APG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| G | 1 | Stremlow,Taylor | 30 | 8.1 | 2.7 | 4.1 | |
| G | 4 | Feuerbach,Kylie | 27 | 5.6 | 1.6 | 2.8 | |
| G | 11 | Wright,Chazadi | 27 | 12.4 | 2.8 | 4.6 | |
| F | 45 | Stuelke,Hannah | 28 | 13.9 | 8.6 | 2.9 | |
| C | 5 | Heiden,Ava | 30 | 17.5 | 7.6 | 1.6 |