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Dadar

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I wonder if Trump will now help Russia to ease crude & LNG shock ?

This energy thing is a cluster xxxx. I don't believe this is a situation where releasing US strategic reserves will change the direction of crude. Just imho
 

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umm, never a good idea to jump on these blips in the system.. prices will go back down and then you have to give credit to the person you previously excoriated.
This reminds me of the current cabinet

  • Alice: A curious, 7-year-old girl who tries to apply logic to an illogical world.
  • The White Rabbit: A frantic, time-obsessed creature who leads Alice into Wonderland.
  • The Cheshire Cat: A grinning cat that can disappear at will; it provides Alice with cryptic, philosophical advice.
  • The Mad Hatter: An eccentric host of a perpetual tea party, representing the historical "mad as a hatter" mercury poisoning common in 19th-century hat making.
  • The Queen of Hearts: The tyrannical ruler of Wonderland, famous for her irrational demands to "Off with their heads!".
  • The Caterpillar: A hookah-smoking insect who challenges Alice's sense of self and provides the mushroom that controls her size
did you have to look that up?
 
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umm, never a good idea to jump on these blips in the system.. prices will go back down and then you have to give credit to the person you previously excoriated.

did you have to look that up?
Do you not agree. Alice in Wonderland often comes to mind
 
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Don’t consider myself a trader by any means, but did rotate a significant portion of my liquid holdings into IAUM.

Energy stocks look expensive already.

The top 10% already account for half of consumer spending and it’s rapidly getting worse.

Think we are going to have a lot of pissed off voters in a year.
Big supply and demand global scale energy shock is at hand.
 

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Even at these levels and resistence, CL seems like an opportunity window for short term trades currently. Took 4 mcl april contracts long at 81
Long at 81?

I’d be a buyer of put spreads. Trump HAS to keep the price of oil down. There is no other choice
 

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Long at 81?

I’d be a buyer of put spreads. Trump HAS to keep the price of oil down. There is no other choice

Note that i have been trading half on and off to lower the basis. Carrying half into globex

How is he going to do that to alleviate the global short term problem? Maybe the US supplies can be helped if he releases reserves? Do you have an immediate fix?
 
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You would. Are you familiar with the Little Rabbit Foo Foo hare today goon tomorrow story?
no, haven't heard of that one, must be a generational thing. But I looked it up and I guess the moral is not to bop creatures in the head?
 
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Note that i have been trading half on and off to lower the basis. Carrying half into globex

How is he going to do that to alleviate the global short term problem? Maybe the US supplies can be helped if he releases reserves? Do you have an immediate fix?
You have to like the outlook for SLB and Baker Hughes
 

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Note that i have been trading half on and off to lower the basis. Carrying half into globex

How is he going to do that to alleviate the global short term problem? Maybe the US supplies can be helped if he releases reserves? Do you have an immediate fix?
Playing a short term window of opportunity with a small position because of the resistence levels here. Sometimes, time trumps price. I am sure trump will throw out plenty of word salad.
 
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fatpiggy

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Note that i have been trading half on and off to lower the basis. Carrying half into globex

How is he going to do that to alleviate the global short term problem? Maybe the US supplies can be helped if he releases reserves? Do you have an immediate fix?
I don’t. But I know mid terms gives him an incentive to get the price down quickly! Whatever it takes.
 

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Is there any volume on the NQ ODTE’s?
I have not traded options in over 40 years, so I can not answer that, but the cyclical nature magnets at significant strike levels in the derivatives markets has played for many years. I hedge more through the futures and equity holdings mix.

Maybe I am not smart enough, but I always looked at options as playing against the house in general. I probably worry more about the CME data center hitting a glitch or a heating overload shut down which is a good reason to stay conservative in the number of contracts and when to go NQ vs MNQ, MGC vs 1OZ, NQ vs MNQ etc
 
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I don’t. But I know mid terms gives him an incentive to get the price down quickly! Whatever it takes.
Maybe I am missing something, but Russia seems like the only available short term supply source. Wonder if the ice is melting
 

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Hearing talk about treasuries intervening in the crude market. How will that increase supply? Hard to print crude
 

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I don’t. But I know mid terms gives him an incentive to get the price down quickly! Whatever it takes.
They may be able to supplement the national cost - more national debt - but other than the US and Russia, where are there other short term supply sources?
 

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I have not traded options in over 40 years, so I can not answer that, but the cyclical nature magnets at significant strike levels in the derivatives markets has played for many years. I hedge more through the futures and equity holdings mix.

Maybe I am not smart enough, but I always looked at options as playing against the house in general. I probably worry more about the CME data center hitting a glitch or a heating overload shut down which is a good reason to stay conservative in the number of contracts and when to go NQ vs MNQ, MGC vs 1OZ, NQ vs MNQ etc
I have to admit that you just gave me MEGO (Mine Eyes Glaze Over) Syndrome. I'm fine with legal and tax issues, but the stuff you are talking about is definitely not in my wheelhouse. Hence, my reliance on an investment advisor.
 
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I have to admit that you just gave me MEGO (Mine Eyes Glaze Over) Syndrome. I'm fine with legal and tax issues, but the stuff you are talking about is definitely not in my wheelhouse. Hence, my reliance on an investment advisor.
Good choice. If I was starting today, I would have to look to AI rather than trading. This is a very complicated inter connected bowl of soup
 

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I don’t. But I know mid terms gives him an incentive to get the price down quickly! Whatever it takes.
Do you remember this?

Not related today, but looking back at CL futures, during April 2020, the continuos contract cost went to minus $25 per barrel where they would pay you to take delivery. The worm turns

During the 2008 credit crisis when currencies had Saint Vitus Dance, it hit a high of $245/barrel
 
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This has also contributed to push USD index back above 99 on reserve currency demand for petrodollars
 
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Fiat currencies are like a bottomless pit relative to hard assets that can not be printed digitally for the sudden production of commodities like crude oil and metals that our economy is dependent on.
 

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On a side note, futures contracts will roll next Friday, March 13th when liquidity shifts with a price jump on the 3 month premium over the March contracts keyed to 3 month rate run off on equity index futures or shorter durations on commodities which is the arbitrage offset to spot prices
 
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On a side note, futures contracts will roll next Friday with a price jump on the 3 month premium over the March contracts keyed to 3 month rate run off
This is above my pay grade. Explain more please
 

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This is above my pay grade. Explain more please
Futures are priced to short term borrowing costs for the duration of the contract times. There is an arbitrage level where selling or buying the futures against the underling product is profitable.

Commercial buyers and sellers and traders will roll over to the next trading contract at the end of the week before expirations.

Hope that helps
 

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They are going to allow India to buy Russian oil without sanctions
Who other than Russia has crude or lng readily available for export. Unless Ukraine blows up a bunch of tankers which won't sit well with countries strangled by an energy shortage

This currently just looks like a huge cluster xxxx to me relative to crude. Crude oil is such a critical element of the global economy in countless areas

From Dune. "The spice must flow"
 
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Who other than Russia has crude or lng readily available for export. Unless Ukraine blows up a bunch of tankers and that won't sit well with countries strangled by an energy shortage
That’s it I would say, unless we can increase Venezuela’s crude output. Maybe we have some LNG excess
 

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Posted this as a response last Friday in the stock guys thread in the West Zone before the bombing started.

How do I know when that is?
Friday options expiration will be interesting. It will take a lot to untether NQ march from 25,000 until the weekly options expire tomorrow at 4 PM ET. Recent market action would indicate support from both sides for the strike price.

Monday ?????
 

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I am just rambling now, but there is so much coordintion in many market movements that arguably have little to do with fundamentals. Even before social media, government announcements were synced to market times and days of the week.
 

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~Billion dollars a day. Not counting the loss of life and cost for restocking munitions. ~Billion dollars a day.

Now, there are folks in here that married themselves to government fiscal responsibility and such, but a billion dollars a day. Where y’all on that, MAGA?

MIMS
 
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~Billion dollars a day. Not counting the loss of life and cost for restocking munitions. ~Billion dollars a day.

Now, there are folks in here that married themselves to government fiscal responsibility and such, but a billion dollars a day. Where y’all on that, MAGA?

MIMS
The daily cost of this war, and any war, are ginormous. Just the munitions cost is ginormous. But it is really hard to quantify the exact cost, or even a rough cost. I've heard the number $1 billion a day tossed around a lot, but Rep. Jason Crow said earlier today that it's $2 billion a day. Who knows? Al I know for sure is that the cost is huge. Yuge, even. We should be endeavoring to look for an expeditious end to this as soon as possible.
 
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