What does Pope do well as a coach?
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It's like dead man walking. He can't recover.
I’m beginning to think he might step down. If he starts out losing early, which likely since we play Kansas among others, his next year is gonna be rougher than this. I’d say 75% of the fan base knows this isn’t going to work, if he loves UK, he will go out with Mitch……..nah, that won’t happen, we are gonna be mid SEC or worse next year.
He’s done here. 100%. He will never be able to recruit here. Agents know he’s desperate now, they’re going to give him a bill and it’s not going to happen with the contributors. Imagine pope going to boosters asking for a couple extra million for players?
“you mean your buyout?”
That’s all he’ll get. Anyone into this “year 3 stuff” has little idea how this actually works. He’s finished. Off the court disaster after 2 years. Behind the scenes they all know it pope knows it too.
Its a good list. If thats the list, I will be all for it. Fact is, I said 100 times I thought if Pope went away MB would hite a Scott Drew type. If the new guy goes goes after the best coaches, I am good with no 3rd season
The list of coaches especially Golden would use a UK offer to get more money at their current university. Cal made UK cool again and Pope has taken the attractiveness down to a level it’s never been. Even BCG got Patterson and some other studs to play. No one wants to play for a corny 7 footer with no credentials.
Best option out there. Proven winner. See coach pitino, he went pro and came back.
And got his *** kicked by Cal. Pitino is solid but he's NEVER been the same since he left UK
Won back to back titles. Pitino won one at louisville. Uk has won 1 title in 30 years, time to brigvon a proven winner. Knowing the nba a huge plus.
Pitino never won back to back tiles dude. He won in 96 and just missed in 97. Tubby won in 98
No UK coach not named Rupp has ever won back to back national titles. His title as UofL doesn't count and any UK fan would never back that.
lol it's absolutely one of the reasons we lost.
BG got 3 wide open dunks in the first half. We were KILLING them on the inside. Then he jacked a 3. Missed. Noah jacked a 3. Missed. And A&M never looked back.
Was talking about billy d. No pitino won af 2 different schools amd still aint lost it for as old as he is and the **** school he coaches at.
At Florida. 20+ years ago and is about to be FIRED by the Bulls. 20+ yeas ago is literally two eras of basketball ago. Since then it's been OAD (which Donovan left for the NBA before that became the norm) and then NIL.
You can claim that title all day long. It's doesn't officially exist on the record books. Which is the only thing that count.
Pitino also just got his **** kicked in by UConn last week. And is pushing 74. Be serious. And got knocked out last year in the NCAAT by.....drum roll.....JOHN CALIPARI.
I'll always appreciate what Rick did here. But it's not 96 anymore. And he vouched for Pope. lol And if I've learned anything this year....nostalgia does not a good basketball team make.
This.
If we play Florida tough and get a win in the SEC tourney or a win in the NCAA, she'll be back on the wagon.
Not a better choice out there, nate oats and golden aint coming here. Bulls just traded everyone so they could lose out and get the too draft pick. Pitino, the old man himself would be a bettter coach than pope.
Keep eating the memberberries man. The nostalgia will make us Indiana in a heartbeat.
We're already Indiana. You're boy mitch made sure of that last year when he hired Pope instead of a proven winner like BD when he wanted the job. All because of pride and personal vendetta when he wouldnt take the job 15 damn years ago. He knew he was going to the nba at that point!
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So a substitution in the first half kept us from playing well in the 2nd? Bogus bs excuses.
Not guarding wide open 3's was what gave them 28-2 run . Starters were part of that too.
It does when you dig a 12 point hole. All of that's on Pope. And it's foolish to suggest otherwise.
He's not my boy at all, thanks. And no we're not already Indiana. But we're trending that way.
The good news: the vast majority of BNN knows Pope has to go. This isn’t like Cal of Tubby where the majority had to be convinced.
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He really isn't a solid coach. He is a mid offensive Xs and Os type guy who struggles when the personnel don't fit what he wants to run. He is a horrible defensive coach, horrible recruiter, horrible motivator, horrible manager, and horrible with rotations.
He's also in his mid 50s. The odds of him making meaningful improvements to maybe hit it big are basically zilch. He's running out of time and has already proven he's too stubborn to change what needs to be.
I get what you’re saying, but Kentucky has 3 titles in 30 years by 3 different coaches.
I would be a little more empathetic if CMP would just go off and rip absolute *** on some people and tell them they don't belong at UK goodbye. Get thrown out of a game for trying to choke out Shows and or Courtney Green do something besides being dumbfounded.
Mark pope is 100% the kind who would hold onto the majority of these scrubs that have eligibility for starter positions next year because this year doesn't represent who they are and he knows they can do better with the opportunity to prove it.
If your name isn't Collin chandler, Malichai Moreno, or maybe Kam Williams I really don't care if they all leave.
Mark pope is 100% the kind who would hold onto the majority of these scrubs that have eligibility for starter positions next year because this year doesn't represent who they are and he knows they can do better with the opportunity to prove it.
If your name isn't Collin chandler, Malichai Moreno, or maybe Kam Williams I really don't care if they all leave.
Next year has a chance to be special. Get Stokes and Tanner (from Vandy) and let's roll.
I don't see Lloyd even considering it. He's been out west his entire life and Arizona is a great program.
Yeah if Donovan could be convinced to come back to college and find assistants and a GM to help navigate NIL then he would be amazing. He has coached on the cutting edge of offenses in the pros for a decade+ now and has contacts all over the league. He would be an easy yes hire.
They can say his UofL title doesn’t count be we all know it does and watched it happen. With all the BS now it’s impossible to say any rules broken then matter Imho. Our probation records should come off as well.
I don’t see how we beat Florida unless we come out and have our great game and Florida plays like they had the SEC wrapped up and gave us a gift. Maybe they rest for the SECT run or something.
Eh. They were soliciting minors for sex. That’s Epstein levels of corruption. Big difference.
That’s a lot of pieces though. I don’t have any doubts about Donovan’s ability to coach. I do have doubts about him getting up to speed in NIL and maybe a bit in recruiting.
He never wanted to come here, I think it would be embarrassing if he bent us over a barrel financially.
It was a massive screw up to hire Pope. The majority wanted Cal gone, but we did not have a home run hire lined up to replace him. We apparently pursued Drew and Hurley and got turned down by both. Then, we panicked and hired Pope. The problem is that is not a one season mistake, it is at least a 3-4 year mistake. Pope is a clean cut genuinely good guy. You can’t fire him after slightly overachieving last year with a team he had to assembly late notice. Then, of course this year we are “missing three starters” and still going to make the tourney. If you fire Pope it looks like we just have totally unreasonable expectations. I hate to say it but the quickest scenario to improvement might be for Pope to have a totally healthy team next season and have a terrible record and miss the tourney. Then, you could let Pope go and try to get a better replacement. Unfortunately, I think it’s more likely we assemble a team for next year, hang in the 20-40 ranking, make the tourney, and go out second round. Of course, that will be just good enough for a 4th year of the same. This could drag out several seasons. I know there was no way to force Hurley to take the job, but missing out on Hurley was just a huge miss. That is the guy that could have prospered here. UConn lined up to be a 1 seed and make another deep run this season.
This! This! This! This right here, all day long! Why are some “fans” advocating for another complete disaster?
History tells us this, the present tells us this, everything tells us this… Why are some of us playing the ultimate game of pretend with UK’s legacy and reputation?
Some of you are completely content with possible destructive consequences just to protect your own pride and egos… Why? Just get lost already, geez!
Recruiting? Lol, Nope. Roster construction? Nope. Pre-season conditioning? Nope. Pre-game preparation? Nope. In game adjustments? Nope. Timely substitutions? (See recruiting). Get his players to play hard for 40 minutes? Nope. Use a lot of dorky verbiage during postgame pressers? Yes, he does that well.