Treatment of Brands Bros at OSU

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BrianLafevere vs MSU in this thread is more entertaining than the Iowa wrestling program has been the past 4 years...........


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JoeBagobagels

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Iowa lost to ISU in football,basketball, and wrestling this season. That hasn't happened very often if ever.
I don't care about the first two. As for the third, Iowa was the premiere program for 35 years. Iowa has never been at that level for any length of time in any other sport. Hell, hardly anyone has.
 

JoeBagobagels

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I certainly can laugh at them showing the Brands losses as Hawkeyes, but they step over the line with Terry's losses as a U.S. Olympian. Showing our country's defeat, the loss of a potential gold medal, especially as he is personally devastated in crawling off the mat, is an extraordinarily low blow and classless.
It's called busting balls. You new guys call it trolling. Welcome to fandom.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Hey kiddo, I know your Asbergers has been flaring up lately with your heroes (lol) getting trounced but there is nothing you can do or say that can get under my skin. I have worked with children and adults with diminished capacities for years so you are nothing new or different.

You are predictable and boring unfortunately just like the team under Brands this year.

Go ahead and respond. Something original would be nice.
You spelled it wrong, it's Assburgers lololol! Always spell something like that in the funniest way possible. It aggravates the weirdos.
 

grapplefan

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You'll never get over Tom and Terry whooping your butt when you trained with the HWC, will you.
Uh, I think he has. I think Tarp liked and respected TnT, but he see problems with their current situation. Either they've changed, the times have changed, or both, and it just ain't work'n anymore, as evidenced by that shellacking in Stillwater.
 

JoeBagobagels

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I'd say bring back Baywatch, but I fear what modern Hollywood would do with it.......
You are correct. Again Iowa had an opportunity with Taylor but that obviously would have been a gamble. When PSU got Sanderson I think they finished like 16 or so that previous year. You had some deep pockets boosters that decided to make a play. Easy to do when you're willing to gamble and have notching to lose. Iowa won the year prior to Sanderson starting at PSU and his first year. No one fires the current National championship coach on a gamble that a new guy will be the next Gable.

When Taylor went to Ok St I was initially surprised. I did not even know he was considering coaching but I'm guessing people plugged in did. That was opportunity 2. Brands was 5th that year but they didn't make the move. The next one might be Messenbrink down the road or some kid not even in college yet. By next one I mean Gable/Cael level greatness but who knows?
 

MSU158

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You're wrong. There's something wrong about you where you miss nuance and certain cues as he said. I just think you're weirdo.
Don’t you have a completely unrelatable analogy about weight cuts in weight lifting or false accusations about sexual assault to talk about?

Add those into the fact that you spend so much time on an Iowa website and I would advise being very careful about who you call a weirdo.

But, hey, you do you!
 
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I'm glad you're tough, but getting your panties in a bunch over the show that was put on in Stillwater is not something to lose sleep over. The Hawks have been at the top for most of our lifetimes on this board and many in the wrestling world are salivating over getting to kick us while we're down. I think it was good to bring some fire back into the rivalry, doesn't mean I'm wrong, doesn't mean I'm right. Again, I'm glad you're tough....
What is wrong with you with the panties in a lot comment? I absolutely loved the atmosphere because I love wrestling. I love to see the Hawks top, but understand we’ve been on a really blessed ride. I just want the student athletes to have the best experience. So how is that not tough? Quit sobbing, please
 

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Was anyone at the dual on Sunday?
Not sure if this was talked about.
I heard the treatment of the Iowa team and as a whole was delporable and embarrassing for a University.
They sat an older lady right behind Tom's right shoulder, about 3 feet from him, and she constantly got up and screamed in Tom's ear and would put her "pistol" hands in his face.
OSU ran footage of Terry Brands losing to Kendal Cross at Olympic Trials, but then zoomed in on Terry crawling off the mat and showed him crying. They also showed Tom getting beat by someone.
I know OSU is allowed to show whatever they want on their video screen, but they were obviously trolling the Brands
I did think sitting the obnoxious lady right next to Tom seemed negligent.

lol For effs sake. Mad about Iowa being treated the way other teams get treated in Carver? Really?

If you can dish it, you have to be able to take it. Stop being a *****.
 

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You are now arguing about whether you argue here or not. You haven’t talked wrestling history, technique or strategy this entire season because you are a Brands fan and not an Iowa wrestling fan.

You don’t remember me on the boards because only a few of us, disgruntled with the product for years have started voicing how bad the program currently is. Most of us are showing our disdain by not going to meets- a surefire way to see change at the top.

I’ll say it again for you. I dislike the Brands Bros. I cannot and will not deny they are hall of fame, successful coaches. But they do not own Iowa wrestling, it is bigger than them. They are stewards of the program and I don’t like their style, attitudes and the product they have put on the mat.

Myself and many others want change, regardless of the outcome. Nothing that I have said is wrong or invalid so I’m not sure how you could possibly say I’m arguing anything in bad faith.faith.
Regardless of the outcome? This is invalid AND wrong. You and many others would be pleased, if eight years from now we just cracked the top ten as a team, by finishing 4th at Nationals and had 1 National Champ over this time frame?
 
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lol For effs sake. Mad about Iowa being treated the way other teams get treated in Carver? Really?

If you can dish it, you have to be able to take it. Stop being a *****.
So true!! Thats going to create an awesome atmosphere there. Looking forward to seeing what else they do with other teams in the future.

Im sure its probably been said before, but your avatar is freaking awesome!!
 
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What is wrong with you with the panties in a lot comment? I absolutely loved the atmosphere because I love wrestling. I love to see the Hawks top, but understand we’ve been on a really blessed ride. I just want the student athletes to have the best experience. So how is that not tough? Quit sobbing, please
You're not just tough, you're tuff!!
 
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Due to injury my buddy got to wrestle as a true freshman in Carver against an Iowa returning national champ. My friend ended up being a 2 time AA at his school, so he wasn't a chump. But he was getting his *** kicked by the returning national champ Iowa guy the whole match and he said the crowd was just brutal to him as he was getting his *** kicked. You can imagine what was said. Constant calls for stalling, he was called a ***** many times. A lot more stuff in a 7 minute match. He laughs about it. But, Iowa fans should not be whining about OSU giving Iowa a hard time. The Brands getting beat video thing is actually awesome. I think it's awesome that Brands flipped off the crowd. Would have rather beat them on the mat though. But....Didn't AJ get asked not to come back for this very reason? Tom setting himself up to be fired with cause.
 
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Was anyone at the dual on Sunday?
Not sure if this was talked about.
I heard the treatment of the Iowa team and as a whole was delporable and embarrassing for a University.
They sat an older lady right behind Tom's right shoulder, about 3 feet from him, and she constantly got up and screamed in Tom's ear and would put her "pistol" hands in his face.
OSU ran footage of Terry Brands losing to Kendal Cross at Olympic Trials, but then zoomed in on Terry crawling off the mat and showed him crying. They also showed Tom getting beat by someone.
I know OSU is allowed to show whatever they want on their video screen, but they were obviously trolling the Brands
I did think sitting the obnoxious lady right next to Tom seemed negligent.
Easy solution. Next year just show highlights of Bubba Jenkins beating Taylor in the Finals. Same difference.


If only stuff like this, with wrestlers not liking Sanderson's style, happened WAAAAAY more often:

"When Cael Sanderson arrived as the new head coach at PSU, Jenkins didn't feel comfortable with the way of teaching by Sanderson and Sanderson felt uncomfortable with the style of Jenkins. This caused him to transfer to Arizona State. In his first and only year with the Sun Devils, Jenkins captured an NCAA title by pinning previously unbeaten David Taylor in the finals."
 

TheREALSpooner

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Due to injury my buddy got to wrestle as a true freshman in Carver against an Iowa returning national champ. My friend ended up being a 2 time AA at his school, so he wasn't a chump. But he was getting his *** kicked by the returning national champ Iowa guy the whole match and he said the crowd was just brutal to him as he was getting his *** kicked. You can imagine what was said. Constant calls for stalling, he was called a ***** many times. A lot more stuff in a 7 minute match. He laughs about it. But, Iowa fans should not be whining about OSU giving Iowa a hard time. The Brands getting beat video thing is actually awesome. I think it's awesome that Brands flipped off the crowd. Would have rather beat them on the mat though. But....Didn't AJ get asked not to come back for this very reason? Tom setting himself up to be fired with cause.

I can't decide which is more idiotic:

Thinking it is "awesome" that Brands flipped off the crowd

or:

Thinking AJ isn't at Iowa because he flipped off the crowd

Impressive stuff. Not in a good way, but impressive none the less.
 
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BrianLafevre

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Regardless of the outcome? This is invalid AND wrong. You and many others would be pleased, if eight years from now we just cracked the top ten as a team, by finishing 4th at Nationals and had 1 National Champ over this time frame?
That’s not far off from where we are at right now... It was more so me being a realist and understanding there could be a brief drop off where the supposed great recruiting classes flee during the coaching change along with the bare cupboard that would be left.

Myself and many others put up with Brands’ style, attitude and program for years because he was relatively successful and he got a whopping 1 team title out of the Pennsylvania recruits. Now not only are we not winning like we should, we look boring and timid.

so yeah, valid points.
 
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Laker3588

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Easy solution. Next year just show highlights of Bubba Jenkins beating Taylor in the Finals. Same difference.


If only stuff like this, with wrestlers not liking Sanderson's style, happened WAAAAAY more often:

"When Cael Sanderson arrived as the new head coach at PSU, Jenkins didn't feel comfortable with the way of teaching by Sanderson and Sanderson felt uncomfortable with the style of Jenkins. This caused him to transfer to Arizona State. In his first and only year with the Sun Devils, Jenkins captured an NCAA title by pinning previously unbeaten David Taylor in the finals."
Same difference yeah whatever. A Arizona State guy beating a Penn State guy showing it in Carver yeah it's pretty cool...jebus
 
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I think you guys need to accept that all the motivation in the world and bringing in the greatest possible coach that isn't Taylor or Sanderson is gonna change the attitude towards Iowa right now.

Everyone is ready to see Iowa fade away and become "just another program" like they are in all other sports.

And I mean f***ing everyone, and I truly don't believe that you and other Iowa fans honestly grasp the magnitude of that fact/reality.

The top recruits are done looking at Iowa as a top program, and they don't care who is coaching them.

Everyone else is treating Iowa like a black sheep in the sport that just happened to overstay their welcome at the top of the sport.

As neat as it is to be rah rah optimist fan and "never give up hope that we can turn this around and bring back the glory days!!!", I'm telling you right now, no one actually involved in the sport of college wrestling (coach nor athlete) is willing to let that happen, and there's nothing we fans can do about it.

Just sayin...........

P.S. and again, let me f***ing reiterate since people will read this and not believe me or kindly disagree. It's not my f***ing fault that Iowa fans aren't willing to accept just how unwilling everyone else is to let Iowa become a national title contender in wrestling again.
 

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Losses probably don’t bother Taylor as much as it bothered either of the Brands. Especially since he has an Olympic gold, a pile of money and a great wrestling environment surrounding him.

Maybe we should try beating them first or being more creative in getting under their skin. We can be creative right?
Didn't we beat them at National Duals THIS season? Must have been a different Oklahoma State?

Hate to break it to you, but Tom Brands has Olympic Gold and a pile of money too.

Take your own advice and find a better angle or be more creative I guess..........
 

BrianLafevre

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Didn't we beat them at National Duals THIS season? Must have been a different Oklahoma State?

Hate to break it to you, but Tom Brands has Olympic Gold and a pile of money too.

Take your own advice and find a better angle or be more creative I guess..........
This is a response to the dolts crying about the poor treatment of the brands because they had to sit though video highlights of their losses from nearly 30 years ago.

Hate to break it to you, but Taylor, a level headed adult who seems to be satisfied with his Olympic gold and pile of money likely doesn’t care if we inexplicably played a video of him getting pinned by an ASU wrestler while he was at PSU since no Iowa wrestler could beat him.

Nice original name there AndreTheHawk.
 
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Hate to break it to you, but Taylor, a level headed adult who seems to be satisfied with his Olympic gold and pile of money likely doesn’t care if we inexplicably played a video of him getting pinned by an ASU wrestler while he was at PSU since no Iowa wrestler could beat him.
Taylor is not a level-headed adult. Sorry you didn't know him as well as you thought you did.

Also, I don't apologize for you getting trolled by that comment about showing the Bubba Jenkins match. 😁