anthropic and claude
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Giving the US military full control of Anthropic and Claude would seemingly be what the A&C constitution strives to avoid
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Hegseth demands full military access to Anthropic's AI model Claude and sets deadline for end of week
The Pentagon may decide to officially designate Anthropic as a "supply chain risk" to push them out of government, sources say.
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I think the issue is that the pentagon doesnt want conditions placed on use. If its lawful to do it they want to be able to use AI for it.
The government is trying to force a private company to remove safe guards. What are those safe guards, mainly that AI cannot kill a human without another humans oversight. Think drones executing people on the battlefield. Truly dystopian ****.
"Claude’s constitution is the foundational document that both expresses and shapes who Claude is. It contains detailed explanations of the values we would like Claude to embody and the reasons why. In it, we explain what we think it means for Claude to be helpful while remaining broadly safe, ethical, and compliant with our guidelines. The constitution gives Claude information about its situation and offers advice for how to deal with difficult situations and tradeoffs, like balancing honesty with compassion and the protection of sensitive information. Although it might sound surprising, the constitution is written primarily for Claude. It is intended to give Claude the knowledge and understanding it needs to act well in the world."
"We treat the constitution as the final authority on how we want Claude to be and to behave—that is, any other training or instruction given to Claude should be consistent with both its letter and its underlying spirit. This makes publishing the constitution particularly important from a transparency perspective: it lets people understand which of Claude’s behaviors are intended versus unintended, to make informed choices, and to provide useful feedback. We think transparency of this kind will become ever more important as AIs start to exert more influence in society1."
"We treat the constitution as the final authority on how we want Claude to be and to behave—that is, any other training or instruction given to Claude should be consistent with both its letter and its underlying spirit. This makes publishing the constitution particularly important from a transparency perspective: it lets people understand which of Claude’s behaviors are intended versus unintended, to make informed choices, and to provide useful feedback. We think transparency of this kind will become ever more important as AIs start to exert more influence in society1."
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The Latest Developments (February 2026)
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The Latest Developments (February 2026)
- The Ultimatum: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has given Anthropic a deadline of 5:01 PM ET on Friday, February 27, 2026, to agree to "all lawful use cases" for its AI.
- Anthropic's Refusal: CEO Dario Amodei stated on Thursday that the company "cannot in good conscience" agree to the Pentagon's latest offer. Anthropic argues the new contract language fails to prevent Claude from being used for mass domestic surveillance or fully autonomous weapons.
- Potential Consequences: If a deal is not reached by the deadline, the Pentagon has threatened to:
- Terminate Anthropic's $200 million contract.
- Designate Anthropic a "supply chain risk," a label usually reserved for foreign adversaries.
- Invoke the Defense Production Act (DPA) to legally compel the company to provide its technology for national security purposes.
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What happened to the Republican party that was steadfastly against big government? We now have the federal government trying to force a private AI company to unlock features that could conceivably be used to surveil and even violently oppress citizens.
I’m sure I’m missing something that the MAGA intellectuals caught…
I’m sure I’m missing something that the MAGA intellectuals caught…
These chuds love fully autonomous government murder robots as long as they’re in the “kill libs” configuration and not any of the other possible settings.
I don't like it and don't agree with it. Not for this specific case. Aren't there other AI's they can use? Why not just use a competitor? If there is no competitor, then the case must be made on why the Government must take over the business. And I don't think the Trump admin has made that case thus far.
I think the government having a problem with an AI company’s red lines being autonomous killing and mass civil surveillance is much more troubling than the fact that they want to use the DPA to take over the company. Once the first is true the second is like “well yeah of course they would”
Agree with this. The Government's desired uses outweigh the mechanism of ownership.
The best time to walk away from this clown show was 2015, the second best time is now.
It doesn’t exist anymore dude. It’s a shame. The scary thing is that they don’t even make the slightest attempt to hide it.
The guy openly wants to run the country as a dictatorship, and they’ll swallow more *** before they do anything.
Walk away to what? Lol
Kamala Harris? Butthuice? Newscum? In California the government has the right to transition your kid without telling you.
LOL
I keep sounding the alarm for you guys but there is nothing to walk away to. The left is too far gone.
Republicans are much closer to what you are describing than Democrats. I guess I’ll walk away and right back into MAGA. MAGA is far superior than to any other options right now and it’s not very close.
I hope the Democrats listen to the people and move towards the center and give us some choices.
Mainstream democrats from just a few years ago don’t even recognize it’s their own party.
There is nothing to walk away to
Exactly. There is no one in the Democrat party. Stephen A Smith is the lone sane voice coming from the left. He is the only one that stands a chance at this point.
I would gladly consider a sane Democrat, unfortunately those are the party minority right now.
People don’t like MAGA but the options they give us are pathetic.
Step up democrats! Pivot to the center!
How can they compete with free money, free food, free housing, free loans, free healthcare? You act like the right has a choice. The Democratic Party relies heavily on the entitled and subsidy funded groups, they’ve expanded almost every tax payer funded subsidy program we offer. Who the hell is gonna vote for small government, fiscal responsibility and common sense if that’s the backdrop. Liberals created a nanny state and want republicans to run on the same premise they ran on in the 80’s when this wasn’t the scenario. Half the country is on welfare, there’s your small government answer. Half the population can’t be on food stamps and still have small government. It’s a ridiculous notion if you look at the current landscape pragmatically.
This didn’t take long ….
OpenAI has now struck a deal for the Department of Defense to use its AI systems, CEO Sam Altman announced, hours after President Trump said the US government would stop using those of competitor Anthropic.
Altman said in a post on X: “Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network.
OpenAI has now struck a deal for the Department of Defense to use its AI systems, CEO Sam Altman announced, hours after President Trump said the US government would stop using those of competitor Anthropic.
Altman said in a post on X: “Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network.
It looks like OpenAI had the same redlines that Anthropic had and the DOD signed off on it. Seems a bit weird to take an inferior product with the same stipulations until you realize Sam Altman donated $25m to the admin
I would think that the company has every right to set terms for use of it's products. Of course, the government then has the right not to buy the products, and perhaps dictate how the product might be used in sales to others.
the Pentagon sets requirements for systems, I.e. what the purchased item must be able to accomplish. If the requirements were set correctly and the company bids, then they knew what they were expected to provide when they bid.
Respect your post - we normally don’t agree and appreciate you not throwing out a red herring.
Never trust those in power.
Holy wall of red herrings. Let’s get this back on track - you agree with the military having no restraints on ability to surveil or attack U.S. citizens?
What’s your address - I’ll send you a copy of 1984 so you can better understand how your future life will look.
I used to be in the center, but Trump has stretched the line a lot further away.
But I would welcome a center ground 3rd party option.
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So it seems like this has been resolved. Anthropic didn’t want its technology used a certain way, and so the US purged them from the whole government. Anthropic got what they wanted.
Now the Anthropic CEO is crawling back. It’s a pathetic look, have some backbone dude. Talk about a miscalculation.
Not good management, would never invest with him.
Now the Anthropic CEO is crawling back. It’s a pathetic look, have some backbone dude. Talk about a miscalculation.
Not good management, would never invest with him.
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The constitution they adopted seemed really like a pie in the sky wish without widespread cooperation if they wanted to stay in the focus of technology imho
Anthropic lost the Pentagon but won over America
The little-known artificial intelligence start-up proved its power to shake the military, coders and corporate executives.Being declared a threat to national security can have a silver lining.
After the Pentagon blacklisted artificial intelligence start-up Anthropic last week in a dispute over how its Claude chatbot could be used in war, an American public largely unaware of the company raced to download its app, paid for Claude subscriptions and praised Anthropic in online reviews and posts. Many technology workers, including at competing AI firms, took Anthropic’s side in its clash with the Defense Department.
That surge in popularity came followed a three-month ascent that had already seen Claude shift from respected but obscure AI geek to the coolest of chatbot kids. While ChatGPT owner OpenAI remains by far the most well known and most valuable AI start-up, Anthropic has steadily won over people who matter in Silicon Valley, on Wall Street and among the general public.
Software programmers have been so impressed by Claude’s coding skills that they are penning laments about their looming irrelevance. Anthropic’s announcements of new features can move the entire stock market as some investors look to the company for clues about the trajectory of AI.
That Anthropic could vault from relative obscurity to the vibe king of Silicon Valley shows there is still a fierce contest to shape the direction of AI. It’s also a reminder that even in a field claiming to build the ultimate rational thinkers, winners and losers are determined as much by reputation and taste as by technical superiority.
Bradley Tusk, a start-up investor and political strategist, said the growing buzz around Anthropic and the perception that it took a principled stand against the Pentagon adds up to a hot streak. “If you can create a certain perception that is positive at least for a while, you can ride that wave,” he said.
Meh: Amodei needs to stick to his principles and his guns. Trump will be gone, or at least emasculated, soon, and Hegseth may be gone even sooner. Anthropic is in the game for a much longer duration than that. What can be done can be undone. And redone. So much of Trump's work will be torn down the moment he leaves office. Removing his name from the Kennedy Center will be just the first thing.
I hope, that optimism holds. This seems like the way a nation should work, like in WW II
The conditions that claude insisted on were:
1. cannot use claude for mass surveilance of american citizens, and
2. cannot use claude in killing machines, yet. They dont think it is good enough to be making live or die decisions.
I figured you and your ilk would at least be on board with #1.
I am absolutely seeing this, in every business owner mastermind or forum I am in, businesses are dropping ChatGPT and adding Claude. We've been using Claude for a while because it's so much better.
You could say I've been playing 3D underwater chess while everyone else has been playing checkers.