2026 Rock and Roll HOF nominees.....

Ludd

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Yea... see i don't use #1 on billboard as a barometer.
But there has to be some kind of barometer to get into the HOF…otherwise no one would get in because there are people that hate every band or artist.
 
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Grant Green

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BINGO! it's subjective - maybe the definition of subjective.
It’s not totally subjective. There is definitive criteria that one could use to judge the quality of music.
Whether you actually enjoy the music or not is completely subjective.
 
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WestSideLion

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Billy Idol is deserving too. His first two LPs were absolutely legendary. And he’s stayed relevant and toured for a long time too. Then there’s his early work with Generation X.

 

Connorpozlee

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Based on what other than your opinion? I guess it’s because he was only the third best selling artist of the 80’s (not even counting what he did with Genesis). Other than a few songs, I’m not a big Phil Collins fan, but if he can’t get in, then just about nobody should get in.
By what measure is Phil Collins music "crap"?

In fact, I would like to know, other than opinion, what makes music good or bad?
its all opinion, of course. Though I’m pretty sure if there was a scientific test, Phil Collins music would prove out to be crap.
If you like his stuff, listen to the hell out of it.
 

bbrown

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The Beatles movie we need…



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Midnighter

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LOL. Blows my mind people think The Beatles are bad/overrated. Few bands have 100 songs worth ranking and Rolling Stone did a list for them. My favorites are I Want to Hold Your Hand, Come Together, Hey Jude, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, and Hello, Goodbye. They were a movement - much like Nirvana after them in the 90’s.
 
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LilWashLion

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I should have cut and pasted....

The nominations for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame‘s Class of 2026 are in – and the list includes Phil Collins, Lauryn Hill, Mariah Carey, Oasis, Pink, the Black Crowes, Jeff Buckley, Melissa Etheridge, Billy Idol, INXS, Iron Maiden, Joy Division/New Order, New Edition, Sade, Shakira, Luther Vandross, and the Wu-Tang Clan
I should have cut and pasted....

The nominations for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame‘s Class of 2026 are in – and the list includes Phil Collins, Lauryn Hill, Mariah Carey, Oasis, Pink, the Black Crowes, Jeff Buckley, Melissa Etheridge, Billy Idol, INXS, Iron Maiden, Joy Division/New Order, New Edition, Sade, Shakira, Luther Vandross, and the Wu-Tang Clan.
not many nominations I’d call rock n roll. The place is a joke.
 

bbrown

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But there has to be some kind of barometer to get into the HOF…otherwise no one would get in because there are people that hate every band or artist.
Oh absolutely there is criteria they use. I don't. It's their RRHOF not mine. 🤷‍♂️
Thats why I don't get upset over it.
 

bbrown

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Oh absolutely I think its a great movie and was a trendsetter for things to follow... Hello MTV.
Hell I still like Help. 🤷‍♂️
No I just think the Ruttles is pretty funny. It was Spinal Tap before Spinal Tap.
 

PSU Mike

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Sure, but other than the insipid lyrics and that punchable Gerber Baby face, what makes it suck?

Played around the C mixolydian scale which is quite common in rock and blues, with a pretty standard beat and rhythm.

I mean, I don't like the tune, but its hard to say a song that hit #1 on billboard is craptastic.
Holy ****, didn’t we have a poster 20-25 years ago with the handle mixolydian?
 
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MtNittany

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Oh absolutely I think its a great movie and was a trendsetter for things to follow... Hello MTV.
Hell I still like Help. 🤷‍♂️
No I just think the Ruttles is pretty funny. It was Spinal Tap before Spinal Tap.
"Who's that little old man?"
 
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Nittering Nabob

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There are a few folks inducted twice. Here are a couple of them. For those that don’t get the Beatles, take a moment to think how many great artists have covered their songs.

Tgar submits the following for your consideration….


Two drug addled hippies? 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄
 
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bbrown

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There are a few folks inducted twice. Here are a couple of them. For those that don’t get the Beatles, take a moment to think how many great artists have covered their songs.

Tgar submits the following for your consideration….


Ohhhh I like that, Neil makes it soo dirty. LOL
 
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MtNittany

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Oh absolutely I think its a great movie and was a trendsetter for things to follow... Hello MTV.
Hell I still like Help. 🤷‍♂️
No I just think the Ruttles is pretty funny. It was Spinal Tap before Spinal Tap.
Help was too Monkees for me.
 
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Grant Green

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What criteria might those be?
First, maybe "characteristics" is a better word than "criteria".
Off the top of my head, but not limited to....

Melodically - does the singer have range, are the melodies creative/intricate (opposed to a lot of repeated notes or basic like a nursery rhyme) but still have a good "hook"? Use of vocal harmonies. Instruments - do they play more than your typical pentatonic scale? Harmonic minor or other altered scales? Can they follow the chord changes and highlight chord tones? Multiple intermingled melodic lines (thinking more classical/chorale).

Harmonically - Does the song use more than just 1, 4, 5 chords? Color notes in chords? 7th/9th chords? Does the song use key modulations or other non-standard chord changes? Voice leading in chord changes? Use of leading chords like diminished and altered chords?

Rhythm - if it's drum based, is the tempo tight and consistent? Complex beats/fills, odd/mixed time signatures? Polyrhythms?

Arrangement - Multiple different sections in a song? Building and telling a story (ex. Stairway to Heaven). Adding in different instrumentation at key points.

Musicians - Just having better musicians makes a song better. You're a guitar player. You know when one guy is better than another from a technical standpoint.

Lyrics are much more subjective, but I feel like most people can tell that Dylan lyrics are better than the Back Street Boys.

Does it mean that a song that lacks many of these can't be an enjoyable song to listen to? Hell no.
 

Ludd

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Oh absolutely there is criteria they use. I don't. It's their RRHOF not mine. 🤷‍♂️
Thats why I don't get upset over it.
And what criteria is that because looking at who’s in, there doesn’t seem to be other than a group of people’s opinion.
 

bbrown

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And what criteria is that because looking at who’s in, there doesn’t seem to be other than a group of people’s opinion.
You would have to ask them.
Some of you just want to fight and argue.