OT: 2026 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees
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For a long time I wasn’t in favor of changing the name but I now agree, they should change the name to “The Popular Music Hall of Fame”.
True, but there's still a lot of WTF members of the HOF
Bac, we probably have some different tastes in music, and I’ve been around longer than you, but can you explain the B52s to me?
Really? Alice in Chains isn't in? How is that possible? That's ridiculous!
Fun odd and quirky band with incredible longevity. Sounded like no other group when they came out in the 70s and then delivered an iconic commercial song Love Shack out of nowhere a decade later to actually dwarf the attention of Rock Lobster
And now pop princesses..get ready Ariana Grande
Two thoughts
The problem is,that they induct groups every year, so the pickings get weaker and weaker, to the point they consider non rock and absurd choices
Somewhere up in heaven, if there is a heaven, Meatloaf would really be appreciative of being inducted.... He came across as a sensitive performer who wanted to go into the crowd and thank each attendee for being there
The problem is,that they induct groups every year, so the pickings get weaker and weaker, to the point they consider non rock and absurd choices
Somewhere up in heaven, if there is a heaven, Meatloaf would really be appreciative of being inducted.... He came across as a sensitive performer who wanted to go into the crowd and thank each attendee for being there
The RR HOF must be getting desperate or worse just trying to appeal to more people with these nominations. Looking at this list it is a real shame some of these acts are getting mentions/nominations while some real good artist have not been voted in. As Chop and a few other mentioned bands like Kansas, Boston, Styx and to me the best female voice in recording Karen Carpenter.
If I had a vote (and we know I don’t), from this list presented I would only vote for:
Phil Collin’s - I believe he is in with Genesis, but would look at his overall body of work through the entire music industry. Writer producer musician etc.
Iron Maiden - Iconic band in the 70s and 80s with a great body of work and a great live performing band for those who like that genre. Plus how can you not vote for a rock band where the lead singer also flew the airplane during many of the bands tours.
Melissa Etherige - For all the same reasons as Phil Collins
Billy Idol - Unique entertainer.
Some of the others who several folks here have put on the bubble I do not know enough of their work to comment. The rest are a hard no for me.
If I had a vote (and we know I don’t), from this list presented I would only vote for:
Phil Collin’s - I believe he is in with Genesis, but would look at his overall body of work through the entire music industry. Writer producer musician etc.
Iron Maiden - Iconic band in the 70s and 80s with a great body of work and a great live performing band for those who like that genre. Plus how can you not vote for a rock band where the lead singer also flew the airplane during many of the bands tours.
Melissa Etherige - For all the same reasons as Phil Collins
Billy Idol - Unique entertainer.
Some of the others who several folks here have put on the bubble I do not know enough of their work to comment. The rest are a hard no for me.
Unfortunately, you do not have to rock in order to roll into the HoF.
Billy Corgan committed 2 unpardonable sins that the hipster doofus music community will never forgive. Actually learning to play guitar at a high level and seeking out other musicians with the same mindset, and proudly displaying his admiration for Rush and Black Sabbath.
likely because he is getting to the end health wise and to even out that Peter Gabriel is in both with Genesis and as a solo act.
Phil does have some very good singles but overall I don't like the poppy whimsical stuff (and I am a HUGE Genesis fan.) HIs individual body of work does beat the crap out of many others on that list but as noted by plenty in this thread...if you have 1 spot there are tons of others I put in instead.
The term "rock and roll" is defined by Greg Kot in Encyclopædia Britannica as the music that originated in the mid-1950s and later developed "into the more encompassing international style known as rock music".[8] The term is sometimes also used as synonymous with "rock music" and is defined as such in some dictionaries.[15][16]
The phrase "rocking and rolling" originally described the movement of a ship on the ocean,[17] but by the early 20th century was used both to describe the spiritual fervor of black church rituals[18] and as a sexual analogy. A retired Welsh seaman named William Fender can be heard singing the phrase "rock and roll" when describing a sexual encounter in his performance of the traditional song "The Baffled Knight" to the folklorist James Madison Carpenter in the early 1930s, which he would have learned at sea in the 1800s; the recording can be heard on the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library website.[19]
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I'll take the above definition of Rock n Roll over Billy Joel any day especially since he wavered from it himself so perhaps he morphed the definition to fit himself and pop songs in.
My personal definition? If they cut it our made it to fit on the radio or a 45 (for those who know what that is)....after the 50's and early 60's....it isn't RnR worthy
The phrase "rocking and rolling" originally described the movement of a ship on the ocean,[17] but by the early 20th century was used both to describe the spiritual fervor of black church rituals[18] and as a sexual analogy. A retired Welsh seaman named William Fender can be heard singing the phrase "rock and roll" when describing a sexual encounter in his performance of the traditional song "The Baffled Knight" to the folklorist James Madison Carpenter in the early 1930s, which he would have learned at sea in the 1800s; the recording can be heard on the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library website.[19]
Rock and roll - Wikipedia
I'll take the above definition of Rock n Roll over Billy Joel any day especially since he wavered from it himself so perhaps he morphed the definition to fit himself and pop songs in.
My personal definition? If they cut it our made it to fit on the radio or a 45 (for those who know what that is)....after the 50's and early 60's....it isn't RnR worthy
Nothing brings out the cranky in a bunch of old white dudes than this topic, lol. I'm fine with the big tent approach to R&R HOF, as it is kind of the Popular Music HOF now, although I'll admit that some great old rock acts should at least get nominations. But focusing on the nominees, here's my $0.02 with my top 5 choices (Matt Pinfield told me that the 1200 voters get 5 votes each, iirc, so I'll pick 5). Also, both the Strokes and Yeah Yeah Yeahs were eligible for the first time this year and should've at least been nominated, IMO (they'd have gotten my votes).
Phil Collins - no, for me, as I'm not a huge fan of his solo work, but he's just about a lock to get in
Mariah Carey - see Phil Collins
Lauryn Hill - no, for me, but she did have one of the best albums of all-time (not enough for me though)
INXS - yes, great band, tons of hits, magnetic frontman who left us too soon
Iron Maiden - mild yes, as the only real classic rock act on the ballot with some great songs and credibility/longevity
Luther Vandross, no, for me - too far from R&R for me (pure R&B mostly)
Shakira - no, for me, but likely to get in with her incredible collection of international hits and success in the US
Melissa Etheridge - yes, for me - always a huge fan (have seen her more than anyone on this list) and she seriously rocks
Jeff Buckley - no, for me - some great songs, but not enough
Pink - no, for me, and probably not quite enough to get in
New Edition - no, for me - not enough sustained success
Sade - no, for me, but like a lot of her early work
Wu-Tang Clan - no, for me, but likely to get in - very influential band
Black Crowes - no, for me - one great album isn't enough
Oasis - mild yes for me - some great songs and a few good albums
Joy Division/New Order - huge yes, for me - easily my favorite bands on the list - probably the most influential artists on the list
Billy Idol - almost yes - if it included him and his first band GenX, I'd be a yes
Phil Collins - no, for me, as I'm not a huge fan of his solo work, but he's just about a lock to get in
Mariah Carey - see Phil Collins
Lauryn Hill - no, for me, but she did have one of the best albums of all-time (not enough for me though)
INXS - yes, great band, tons of hits, magnetic frontman who left us too soon
Iron Maiden - mild yes, as the only real classic rock act on the ballot with some great songs and credibility/longevity
Luther Vandross, no, for me - too far from R&R for me (pure R&B mostly)
Shakira - no, for me, but likely to get in with her incredible collection of international hits and success in the US
Melissa Etheridge - yes, for me - always a huge fan (have seen her more than anyone on this list) and she seriously rocks
Jeff Buckley - no, for me - some great songs, but not enough
Pink - no, for me, and probably not quite enough to get in
New Edition - no, for me - not enough sustained success
Sade - no, for me, but like a lot of her early work
Wu-Tang Clan - no, for me, but likely to get in - very influential band
Black Crowes - no, for me - one great album isn't enough
Oasis - mild yes for me - some great songs and a few good albums
Joy Division/New Order - huge yes, for me - easily my favorite bands on the list - probably the most influential artists on the list
Billy Idol - almost yes - if it included him and his first band GenX, I'd be a yes
Every year, the exact same posts in this thread. Can we just change the name of the building to the Music Hall of Fame so I don't have to read this every year?
Wow..Neil Sedaka not in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He wrote so many iconic songs and sang a few
Yet Pink and Lauryn Hill are nominated..clown show
Yet Pink and Lauryn Hill are nominated..clown show
You could just skip the thread. Every year acts like The Scorpions and Styx get passed over, the wailing will get louder
Hey one good thing about the annual RnR HOF thread is that it's the one time a year kbong and I agree.
Oasis should not get in over the The Black Crowes. If you want to debate both of them getting in, fine. However, Oasis has multiple incidents of plagarism they have lost in their career and I've lost a lot of respect them due to the drama and nonsense that follows them around.
The Black Crowes literally epitomize Rock and Roll. They are not just a one hit wonder and have multiple great albums, especially early in their career. Their last album kicks ***. They've toured extensively with Jimmy Page who gushed over getting to share the stage with them. If you've watched them grow over the years, I'm not sure how one would think they shouldn't be in the hall of fame.
The Black Crowes literally epitomize Rock and Roll. They are not just a one hit wonder and have multiple great albums, especially early in their career. Their last album kicks ***. They've toured extensively with Jimmy Page who gushed over getting to share the stage with them. If you've watched them grow over the years, I'm not sure how one would think they shouldn't be in the hall of fame.
Pink and Lauryn Hill rock way harder than Mr. Sedaka ever did, but on the other hand if this were just a popular music HOF, Sedaka and the Carpenters would be in, so maybe it's not that, despite what some say...
He may think they rock harder the Jim Croce too. There is a reason why.
Here's some groups and solo artists left out that I feel should be in
One group is looked down on (Monkees), but for a few years they outsold the Stones and Beatles
The rest also have a legitimate claim to be in R&R HOF
Steppenwolf
Three Dog Night
Grand Funk Railroad
The J. Geils Band
REO Speedwagon
The Marvelettes
The Guess Who
Tommy James & the Shondells
Mary Wells
Paul Revere & the Raiders
Mötley Crüe
Jethro Tull
Diana Ross (Solo career(
The Monkees
One group is looked down on (Monkees), but for a few years they outsold the Stones and Beatles
The rest also have a legitimate claim to be in R&R HOF
Steppenwolf
Three Dog Night
Grand Funk Railroad
The J. Geils Band
REO Speedwagon
The Marvelettes
The Guess Who
Tommy James & the Shondells
Mary Wells
Paul Revere & the Raiders
Mötley Crüe
Jethro Tull
Diana Ross (Solo career(
The Monkees
I would go with Modern Music Hall of Fame. I am pretty much a rock guy but enjoy some other music. Used to be pretty resistant to non rock bands in the HoF but have softened over the years.
As far as the candidates, Iron Maiden should definitely be in.
Joy Division/New Order also makes a lot of sense.
Melissa Etheridge was great. One of the best live acts I’ve seen and had numerous hits.
I could understand some of the others even though their style of music isn’t up my alley like Mariah Carey, New Edition, and Pink.
They should start breaking it up into catagories and nominate one from each group and start puttting in country artists which somehow dont fit their diversity aim
Rock
Pop
R&B
Rap
Country
Wildcard
Fan Vote
Rock
Pop
R&B
Rap
Country
Wildcard
Fan Vote
A central part to "rock" that people underestimate was the electrification and energy put out. Hendrix used to describe a gig as an "electric village." When Bob Dylan started using an electric he was booed by fans who were used to the folk vibe. Look at the kids going berserk for the electric Beatles - they were "feeling" (vs hearing) the music in a new way . The Beatles were aware of that and knew it was revolutionary - and physical ("The Twist" played into that). The RRHOF justifies some of its picks for the energy and physicality - and it was . "Rock and Roll" isn't about sitting and meditating. It was also
aphrodisiacal and provocative.
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John Lennon defined rock music as a raw, honest form of personal expression—a "basic revolution" meant to be felt rather than overly intellectualized.
Paul McCartney has described the advent of rock and roll as a "completely different sound" that was "very exciting" and changed his approach to music forever
. He characterized this era as a revolutionary, visceral experience, noting it felt like "wow!" when he first heard it, distinguishing it from the traditional music and novelty songs that preceded it.
Key Aspects of McCartney's Perspective:
A "Total Shake-Up": He described early rock and roll as a time when the music "shook the walls" and it was a"completely different sound".
Visceral Impact: He has often emphasized the feeling of the music—referring to the thrill of hearing Little Richard scream or Buddy Holly sing for the first time.
A New Beginning: He has mentioned that it is hard to imagine a time before rock and roll because it fundamentally shifted the musical landscape for his generation"
aphrodisiacal and provocative.
Google AI ads this about lennon
John Lennon defined rock music as a raw, honest form of personal expression—a "basic revolution" meant to be felt rather than overly intellectualized.
Paul McCartney has described the advent of rock and roll as a "completely different sound" that was "very exciting" and changed his approach to music forever
. He characterized this era as a revolutionary, visceral experience, noting it felt like "wow!" when he first heard it, distinguishing it from the traditional music and novelty songs that preceded it.
Key Aspects of McCartney's Perspective:
A "Total Shake-Up": He described early rock and roll as a time when the music "shook the walls" and it was a"completely different sound".
Visceral Impact: He has often emphasized the feeling of the music—referring to the thrill of hearing Little Richard scream or Buddy Holly sing for the first time.
A New Beginning: He has mentioned that it is hard to imagine a time before rock and roll because it fundamentally shifted the musical landscape for his generation"
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While electrical advancement and amplification played a role in the development of rock music, it was not exclusive to the genre. Traditional blues musicians began using electrified instruments as early as the 1940s. Also, this understates the importance of the use of acoustic guitar in rock music. Acoustic guitar on records played an important role in providing a fullness and richness to the overall sound. From Dylan, The Beatles , The Stones, Led Zeppelin to The Eagles, Boston, Black Crowes, etc. it’s never been just about volume, distortion etc. Emotiveness , feeling , soulfulness isn’t derived through electricity.
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Jethro Tull is the only one on your list that deserves to be in any Rock and Roll Hall of Fame IMO.