I've been saying for a while, SMU is a sleeping giant. First steps taken.
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SMU: We all knew this was inevitable
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Yep. They stepped into the ACC and were competitive from the outset, advancing to the ACCCG in their first season.
Huge TV market. Oodles of money from their alumni base. All they needed was to get into a P4 conference.
We can't even dream of having access to the kind of money SMU does. SMU has a list of graduates who are billionaires. Do we have even one?
All that being said, money doesn't always lead to success, as A&M gives evidence. But the paradigm is shifting with pay to play being legal.
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The correct question is do we have one that we have not pissed off? Not sure, is Darla Moore still mad at USC? I know from article this week she is now mad at the way Lake City SC is running, since the mayor is a joke and idiot, which she is 100% correct about, imho.
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Carolina’s problem is aside from Darla M , the state’s billionaires have no attachment to them.Zucker and Navarro in Charleston are transplants and George Dean Johnson and Reyes are Wofford alums.Throw Jerry Richardson!s family on the Wofford group as well.
Big deal, $50 mil.
The way things are going that will pay for a backup QB for a season.
Absolutely hate what it's become and actively rooting for its demise.
The way things are going that will pay for a backup QB for a season.
Absolutely hate what it's become and actively rooting for its demise.
Little schools can become big schools athletically when their constituencies are well heeled. SMU is a perfect example.
Oh, we are the Clampetts without the oil.
Heck, I'd settle for having Elly May.
At least there would be some scenery to enjoy in the midst of the misery.
If this had been us instead of SMU, I would venture to guess there would be overwhelming support for the donation, and the inevitable poke in the eye at Clemson since they would be unable to match our good fortune.
Possibly from others, but not from me. It's the new system I despise, not the winners and losers it produces.
Pro sports realized very early on they had to set limits on the finances because it wasn't a game of last-man-standing, they needed each other to continue to have a viable product and keep the cash cow alive. This situation may kill a lot of the participants before they make similar arrngements. Regardless of the outcome, I refuse to participate.
Darla is a Clemson fan. Her dad captained the football team. She ain’t giving money to our athletic program!!!
Darla herself earned a Bachelor's Degree in political science from USC and no degree from UPC. Why would she be disinclined to contribute to her alma mater's athletics beyond becoming alientated?
Sooo…Clemson has access to more $? They’ve won national championships. How did the ACC money kick our SEC money’s ***? There has never been a commitment to winning here. A sh(t show of a board of trustees with a pi$$ poor AD has been our issue. All with a fanbase and alumni base that demands nothing. Zero pressure to win here. Stop
Not taking issue with the other topics, but you might want to specify what kind of funds you're talking about - above the table or under it?
For as long as I can remember they have funded their efforts with the latter. The NCAA even agreed this was the case when they awarded them some vacation time (obviously not enough). They have an assistant basketball coach on tape during the FBI's basketball investigation bragging how successful their covert football payment system was.
That might have had a little to do with it.
Everybody was funding under the table before NIL. (well, maybe not us)
Worst kept secret in CFB was the SEC bagman.
Not disputing that, just saying there's a really good chance Pickens Tech has been outspending everyone via undocumented sources since that 1975 waxing they got from Grantz and Co.
Okay, this is one of those "real life" posts, not the "everything Clemson is evil message board persona" type of post.
I think the advent of NIL has shown just how little money Clemson has and has had in comparison to other schools.
Might be like USC's NIL budget for basketball - nobody knows the real numbers since they aren't published, so they just guess?
Honestly, I hope if we ever have billionaires who want to donate large sums of money to USC, they donate it in a way that enhances the average student's academic experience and/or financial bottom line. Or, at a minimum, they donate as much to those causes as they do to athletics.
Well, if true, then good for them. Which now begs the question, why aren't we getting in on that action.
USC is in the most corrupt city in the state. Sorry, the fans and alumni have never demanded anything.
It's not like SMU hasn't bought a good team before. Last time they got the death penalty - this time they might eventually get a Natty.
Which brings us back to how schools were paying players before NIL. Ironic part of the SMU story is that TAMU made arrangements to give Dickerson a brand new gold Trans AM. But he signs with SMU, and TAMU can't file a complaint. How would TAMU explain "We gave him a brand new Trans AM, but he still signed with SMU", We want our money back"
NIL brought everything out in the open.
In Jim Dent’s excellent book “The Undefeated”,he tells of 1940’s Oklahoma having $100k plus in cash in coach Jim Tatum’s desk drawer to pay players.Tatum got pissed at Oklahoma and resigned.In basically Bud Wilkinson’s first act as head coach he went looking in that top drawer.He found nothing but dust.Of course Oklahoma couldn’t contact the NCAA or file a police report. Do what did they do they called the same Oilmen and restocked the drawer.No mention of what Tatum did with the money.
Zucker is enmeshed in the Charleston community, but has no intrinsic ties to USC.
Big money doesn't follow WBB or baseball. I'd guess 95+% of South Carolina fans and alumni would trade every national championship in WBB or baseball, past and future, for a national championship in football.
I don't think Clowney or Lattimore or any other superstar players from the past chose SC purely because of their love of the school, campus and coaches. EVERYBODY, including South Carolina, was paying players under the table.
And with the #1 pick in the NFL Draft, the San Diego Chargers choose……Ryan Leak