OT: Rutgers Offers a Course on Bad Bunny's Music and Culture of Puerto Rico

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The more information/knowledge that can be disseminated about music, cultures , places, etc the better. It can only help understanding the world we all live in. Americans generally are not that well informed about their own history , music, etc as well as places outside the US.
yeah, get Tik Tok to force a 30 minute educational video for every 10 hours of the stupid crap (I hear) it is filled with that is a must watch lol. (and I am not disagreeing with you. But nobody cares to learn it or teach it . We're too busy trying to destroy it).
 

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I was wondering why Colleges had courses covering celebrities, like Bad Bunny, and the issues they're a part of and googling found this:
>Colleges and universities introduce courses covering celebrities
to increase student engagement, modernize curricula, and use popular figures as a lens to teach complex academic concepts like sociology, business, media, and literature. These courses, such as those on Taylor Swift or the Kardashians, leverage high-profile subjects to make academic analysis more relatable, often acting as a gateway to broader, more serious topics.
Here are the primary reasons for the rise in celebrity-based courses:
  • Increased Student Engagement and Engagement: Professors are using pop culture figures to make course content more relatable, which helps boost student motivation and decrease anxiety around difficult, abstract concepts.
  • A Lens for Academic Analysis: Celebrity courses are rarely just about biography; they serve as a framework for studying deeper topics. For instance:
    • Sociology: Courses on Miley Cyrus or the Kardashians examine topics like race, class, gender, and social media influence.
    • Business/Marketing: Courses may analyze Taylor Swift's career, branding, and entrepreneurial strategies.
    • Literature/Writing: Songs and public discourse are analyzed as part of songwriting or poetry curricula.
  • Modernizing the Curriculum: Incorporating current pop culture figures keeps academic study relevant to the contemporary world, bridging the gap between traditional studies and modern society.
  • Interdisciplinary Study: Celebrities like Taylor Swift are used across various disciplines, including songwriting, Spanish, gender, and media studies.
  • Academic "Hook": Similar to how researchers might study a specific historic figure to understand a generation, celebrities act as a "magnet" or "vessel" to encourage students to ask larger, more critical questions.
These courses also provide a "breather" from traditional, sometimes dry, general education requirements, making learning more interesting for students. <
 
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Don't believe Rutgers still has the Major/Minor/Mini thing but back in the stone ages I took 2 Italian Cinema Classes for 3 credits each. Watched a bunch of Fellini in sub-titles for my "Mini" criteria to complete the Eco/Comp Sci/Italian Cinema trifecta.

I'd say watching those movies then was brutal but as I posted in the "other Bunny" thread I have an appreciation for foreign films in sub-titles so perhaps a lesson actually learned.
 

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In the ancient days when I attended l, we had New Jersey Geography.
 
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Just out of curiosity, how many of you have actually taken the time to look up the literal translations of Bad Bunny’s lyrics? For those who have, what did you think? And for those who haven’t, on what basis are you forming your opinions about the music? For the record, I'm a native speaker.
 
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There’s a very interesting story behind how Bacardi, which is originally from Cuba, wound up in Puerto Rico.

The Bacardi distillery is worth a visit for anyone going to PR. I am not a big rum person but they have a lot of top of the line stuff hard to find on the mainland and for much less money.
 

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The term "American Exceptionalism" doesn't refer to the quality of the people per se. Its about the fact that the US is the only country set-up to be governed by (and not simply for) the people. That is why there is 1st and 2nd amendment and more. If citizens aren't allowed self defense then they aren't in charge.

NY Times ran a history project that was fraudulent. Truth is Western Civ ended slavery that went on for 1000s of years. Teaching that US was founded for slavery (in NA before there was an America) is worse than an "error." All people are sinners/flawed to some degree so there are always issues in societies but America has been exceptional for self-correcting. People in general have no idea how barbaric and degrading history was for 1000s of years. Before capitalism evolved people got rich killing and brutalizing each other in societies flush with top down cruelty. I would hate to see all that come back but it would be interesting for the schadenfreude. Peeps don't know what they had until they lost it. Europe is on that path.,

No, several other countries were set up this way. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Israel...pretty much Western Europe after WW2.

The US isn't exceptional except if the thought is we're the only country letting people who participated in absolute heinous crimes walk, while the UK- the country we seceded from- now prosecutes the royal family we wanted to get away from.
 

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Just out of curiosity, how many of you have actually taken the time to look up the literal translations of Bad Bunny’s lyrics? For those who have, what did you think? And for those who haven’t, on what basis are you forming your opinions about the music? For the record, I'm a native speaker.

Imaginete si oyeron la letra de "El Apagon"...

No estan buscando la letra, no estan aprendiendo nada, estan repitiendo como papagayo lo que les dice su rey anaranjado
 

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Courses pre-meds take the semester they take organic chemistry?

According to some you have to take only STEM classes. Maybe business.

I am not sure what college this happens or happened at but everyone I know who didn't get a liberal arts degree needed some liberal arts classes.

Did these people just not go to college? Certainly not RU.

And then I think the thought is they just oppose learning a foreign language, while they couldn't tell you're versus your.
 
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Just out of curiosity, how many of you have actually taken the time to look up the literal translations of Bad Bunny’s lyrics? For those who have, what did you think? And for those who haven’t, on what basis are you forming your opinions about the music? For the record, I'm a native speaker.
Are you talking about all of his lyrics, or selected songs, and if so, how many?

There are examples of many artists that have songs that have "bad" lyrics. In some cases, it is part of story the song tells-- for example, see Reno by Bruce Springsteen. Or Rock You Like a Hurricane by The Scorpions. And a couple of Uncle Ted Nugent tunes- Stranglehold and Wang Dang Sweet Poontang (probably don't need the lyric sheet to guess what that's about).

If it is selected songs, who cares?

Grok says: "Overall, it's not "just selected songs"—sexual and explicit content is a core, widespread part of his style and output (especially in his biggest reggaeton anthems), but far from the entirety of his work. Many non-Spanish speakers discover this through translations of his hits, which can seem shocking due to direct slang, but it's standard in the genre he dominates."
 

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Are you talking about all of his lyrics, or selected songs, and if so, how many?

There are examples of many artists that have songs that have "bad" lyrics. In some cases, it is part of story the song tells-- for example, see Reno by Bruce Springsteen. Or Rock You Like a Hurricane by The Scorpions. And a couple of Uncle Ted Nugent tunes- Stranglehold and Wang Dang Sweet Poontang (probably don't need the lyric sheet to guess what that's about).

If it is selected songs, who cares?

Grok says: "Overall, it's not "just selected songs"—sexual and explicit content is a core, widespread part of his style and output (especially in his biggest reggaeton anthems), but far from the entirety of his work. Many non-Spanish speakers discover this through translations of his hits, which can seem shocking due to direct slang, but it's standard in the genre he dominates."
Sounds like one of those : "to each their own" likes and dislikes and worth studying the culture that embraces it, while looking into the reasons some can't stand it.
 

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Sounds like one of those : "to each their own" likes and dislikes and worth studying the culture that embraces it, while looking into the reasons some can't stand it.
Some of those that went searching for rage bait may want to consider Kid Rock's catalog, including Cool Daddy Cool, Balls In Your Mouth, WCSR, Duck (rhymes with) You Blind and Bawitaba.
 

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Angus! Intro to Folk Music for me
Just for you Shifty :cool:
(edited to included S.W.A.I.N who this reply was supposed to be to.)
Admitting taking any kind of type of music appreciation course should be put on hold,
until I take a course covering reading comprehension skills :oops:

What is Folk College​

  • A fun & friendly weekend of playing & hearing folk music
  • Warm, welcoming, and fun
  • Small workshop sizes for an intimate music camp
  • Pick up an instrument and rekindle your love of music
  • Plenty to do for musicians of all levels
  • Lots for non-musicians too
  • Located on a beautiful college campus in the mountains of Pennsylvania



 
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No, several other countries were set up this way. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Israel...pretty much Western Europe after WW2.

The US isn't exceptional except if the thought is we're the only country letting people who participated in absolute heinous crimes walk, while the UK- the country we seceded from- now prosecutes the royal family we wanted to get away from.

None of those countries has codified, bedrock guarantees to free speech and arms. Australia banned its guns and have become sketch ever since, Israel is a little like US in that its founding recognizes a creator (French Rev was secular.)

UK also puts people in jail over pronouns and common crime complaints. US cities now let criminals walk as a routine matter (indeed shoplifting legal in places). 90% of African slaves went to South America (Brazil included) and Caribbean. US had the 10%, but Southern owners were getting apprehensive about being outnumbered by their slaves and wanted to expand into other states (new one like Kansas) to spread them around.

Indoctrinated young people think the whole US was like the South when it wasn't. In 1935 a Gallup poll found 69% of US supported anti-lynching laws in Congress. FDR refused to support them for fear of losing southern votes.

If US had never been founded the move to stop expansion would never have been embarked upon. The Civil War was over expansion and not the existing states. The first court recognized slave owner was a back man named Anthony Johnson in Virginia around 1650. He came to US from Ethiopia as an indentured servant (like most white colonists).
 
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Imaginete si oyeron la letra de "El Apagon"...

No estan buscando la letra, no estan aprendiendo nada, estan repitiendo como papagayo lo que les dice su rey anaranjado
I’m pretty sure some hypocritical pearl clutching will occur with some of the lyrics in this song but will not give a damm about what the video nor the song is really about.

 

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With AI all the courses will be useless in a decade, let the students study what they want.
 

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As a Puerto Rican, ese cabrón conejo pendejo is an embarrassment.
Even I know what that means.
Working with many Spanish speakers over the years I did learn some words.......cabron and pendejo were among them.
BTW, as a lover of reggae music I fail to see any connection between the music of Bob Marley, Gregory Isaacs, and Dennis Brown...it's called reggae...and this stuff they call reggaeton. I think that's because there is none.
 

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This is one of those courses that if you get past the shock of the headline is a great learning tool. I guarantee those students will likely retain more that was taught in that class than they do in a typical history course. This reminds me of an elective I took in high school which was Geography of Sports. We studied the history and socialogy of all the NFL cities. If it takes sports or music and it get students engged and actively participating then is a bad thing?
 

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None of those countries has codified, bedrock guarantees to free speech and arms. Australia banned its guns and have become sketch ever since, Israel is a little like US in that its founding recognizes a creator (French Rev was secular.)

UK also puts people in jail over pronouns and common crime complaints. US cities now let criminals walk as a routine matter (indeed shoplifting legal in places). 90% of African slaves went to South America (Brazil included) and Caribbean. US had the 10%, but Southern owners were getting apprehensive about being outnumbered by their slaves and wanted to expand into other states (new one like Kansas) to spread them around.

Indoctrinated young people think the whole US was like the South when it wasn't. In 1935 a Gallup poll found 69% of US supported anti-lynching laws in Congress. FDR refused to support them for fear of losing southern votes.

If US had never been founded the move to stop expansion would never have been embarked upon. The Civil War was over expansion and not the existing states. The first court recognized slave owner was a back man named Anthony Johnson in Virginia around 1650. He came to US from Ethiopia as an indentured servant (like most white colonists).

Literally all of this looks lifted from a twisted version of AI. We have "free speech"? Weird, I don't see the British FCC equivalent shutting down late night programs. I don't see British authorities murdering protesters.

I do see them investigating the heinous crimes of a child molestation ring, while our country refuses.

If the US wasn't founded on slavery...why is the 3/5 compromise in the Constitution?
 

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Even I know what that means.
Working with many Spanish speakers over the years I did learn some words.......cabron and pendejo were among them.
BTW, as a lover of reggae music I fail to see any connection between the music of Bob Marley, Gregory Isaacs, and Dennis Brown...it's called reggae...and this stuff they call reggaeton. I think that's because there is none.

There is most definitely some reggae influence, but more of an influence of American hip hop and other music specific to the Spanish Caribbean like salsa, bachata, son...

Many Jamaicans and others from the English speaking Caribbean emigrated to Cuba especially (pre 1959) as well as Costa Rica and Panama. One of them in Panama, Ruben Blades, is often considered one of the largest influences of this kind of music and is name checked by Bad Bunny all the time.

This is why on the Caribbean coast of CR and Panama you find a lot of English speakers.
 

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Literally all of this looks lifted from a twisted version of AI. We have "free speech"? Weird, I don't see the British FCC equivalent shutting down late night programs. I don't see British authorities murdering protesters.

I do see them investigating the heinous crimes of a child molestation ring, while our country refuses.

If the US wasn't founded on slavery...why is the 3/5 compromise in the Constitution?

There are broadcasting laws that apply to "equal time." Many if not most of the late night comedians are doing one sided political shows and the equal time law started getting enforced. I think Fallon was only guy not prodigiously one-sided.

British TV sells government licenses to Brits for about $240 usd a year. The gov does the programming. People can get Netfllix and such but that's not domestic.

US doesn't murder "protestors" but when the rioters attack anything can happen. The Constitution guarantees the right to "peaceable assembly" but breaking into gov vehicle to steal weapons and to attack agents and cars is nor peaceable by any stretch.

The 3/5 compromise was actually intended to deny slave states representatives in DC . Why should a state have been allowed to buy more slaves to increase power in DC representation?

UK has a big paedo problem with too many criminals like Jimmy Savile and Sidney Cooke. The abuses also merge with occult practices too graphic to post about. Those will be coming out more because a lot of people already knew about them but could not get past the agencies that protect the perps. US agencies and NATO and UK's Joint Intelligence Committee (5i, 6i and others) work together to protect their predatory globalist "elites" that swim in global swamps.

 
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There are broadcasting laws that apply to "equal time." Many if not most of the late night comedians are doing one sided political shows and the equal time law started getting enforced. I think Fallon was only guy not prodigiously one-sided.

British TV sells government licenses to Brits for about $240 usd a year. The gov does the programming. People can get Netfllix and such but that's not domestic.

US doesn't murder "protestors" but when the rioters attack anything can happen. The Constitution guarantees the right to "peaceable assembly" but breaking into gov vehicle to steal weapons and to attack agents and cars is nor peaceable by any stretch.

The 3/5 compromise was actually intended to deny slave states representatives in DC . Why should a state have been allowed to buy more slaves to increase power in DC representation?

UK has a big paedo problem with too many criminals like Jimmy Savile and Sidney Cooke. The abuses also merge with occult practices too graphic to post about. Those will be coming out more because a lot of people already knew about them but could not get past the agencies that protect the perps. US agencies and NATO and UK's Joint Intelligence Committee (5i, 6i and others) work together to protect their predatory globalist "elites" that swim in global swamps.

I won’t get into the UK stuff, but in the US these ‘equal time’ laws apply to all media — TV, radio, and whatever else. I’ll concede that TV tends to lean left, but talk radio leans right. This whole discussion is a slippery slope. What one party does now will impact how the other party acts once they are in power. And opponents will scream from the top of their lungs no matter what.
 
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There is most definitely some reggae influence, but more of an influence of American hip hop and other music specific to the Spanish Caribbean like salsa, bachata, son...
I've been enjoying reggae music since the 60s and have a good collection of albums and cds by the best reggae artists.
And unfortunately I've heard some reggaeton and there is no similarity at all IMO.
I think they just "borrowed" the word REGGAE.
 
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There are broadcasting laws that apply to "equal time." Many if not most of the late night comedians are doing one sided political shows and the equal time law started getting enforced. I think Fallon was only guy not prodigiously one-sided.

British TV sells government licenses to Brits for about $240 usd a year. The gov does the programming. People can get Netfllix and such but that's not domestic.

US doesn't murder "protestors" but when the rioters attack anything can happen. The Constitution guarantees the right to "peaceable assembly" but breaking into gov vehicle to steal weapons and to attack agents and cars is nor peaceable by any stretch.

The 3/5 compromise was actually intended to deny slave states representatives in DC . Why should a state have been allowed to buy more slaves to increase power in DC representation?

UK has a big paedo problem with too many criminals like Jimmy Savile and Sidney Cooke. The abuses also merge with occult practices too graphic to post about. Those will be coming out more because a lot of people already knew about them but could not get past the agencies that protect the perps. US agencies and NATO and UK's Joint Intelligence Committee (5i, 6i and others) work together to protect their predatory globalist "elites" that swim in global swamps.


The First Amendment that you claim to revere specifically bars the government from weighing in on whether a TV show Is "one sided." What's unclear about that?

The government killed 2 protesters who weren't "rioting" at all. Sounds like something you'd hear in Iran.

If slavery was permitted in the founding documents, slavery was a founding concept for the country, be it the US or elsewhere. Whoopty doo, slavery ended in 1888 in Brazil versus here in 1865, pop the champagne!

The UK prosecutes its sex crimes. Our sex criminals are in the White House, cabinet, and are "business leaders."
 

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I won’t get into the UK stuff, but in the US these ‘equal time’ laws apply to all media — TV, radio, and whatever else. I’ll concede that TV tends to lean left, but talk radio leans right. This whole discussion is a slippery slope. What one party does now will impact how the other party acts once they are in power. And opponents will scream from the top of their lungs no matter what.

Either they don't understand the slippery slope, or just think the other party won't ever control things again.
 
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The First Amendment that you claim to revere specifically bars the government from weighing in on whether a TV show Is "one sided." What's unclear about that?

The government killed 2 protesters who weren't "rioting" at all. Sounds like something you'd hear in Iran.

If slavery was permitted in the founding documents, slavery was a founding concept for the country, be it the US or elsewhere. Whoopty doo, slavery ended in 1888 in Brazil versus here in 1865, pop the champagne!

The UK prosecutes its sex crimes. Our sex criminals are in the White House, cabinet, and are "business leaders."
Great post. Thank you.
 

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there is a Kid Rock class offered also?
Only in classrooms with Hot Tubs
But there is this:
Musicology Performance Center offers a specific "Kid Rock" program for children ages 7 to 12.

Musicology's Kid Rock Program
This program is designed for beginners and intermediate students to learn the fundamentals of music and band performance.
  • Ages: 7 to 9 and 10 to 12.
  • Curriculum: Students learn to play instruments within a band setting, focusing on legendary groups like Green Day, AC/DC, and The Ramones.
 
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embarassing class offer but par for course for the school that gave away scholarships to Palestinian students who disrupted campus events with their hate and quite easily broke the lib President's labia
 
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embarassing class offer but par for course for the school that gave away scholarships to Palestinian students who disrupted campus events with their hate and quite easily broke the lib President's labia
You obviously did not read the whole thread and live in an echo chamber. The course is a broader course on culture in Puerto Rico. In the link I provided the professor teaching the course, which is in Spanish, said:

Topics in Hispanic Literature and Culture.” The course was devoted to Bad Bunny and the music of his 2025 album, Debí Tirar Más Fotos.

“It’s really a statement of resistance after Hurricane Maria hit the island,” said Rugama Ruiz, who is studying to become a nurse and promote healthcare equity. “It calls out the forces of gentrification and privatization and the people taking advantage of the island, which have resulted in people being pushed out.”


The album Debí Tirar Más Fotos explores traditional Puerto Rican music, like bomba, where the drummer plays to the rhythm of the dancer, and plena, a percussion-driven folk music genre of music. The songs also speak of the struggles Puerto Rico has faced in recent years. Just being a Bad Bunny fan isn’t enough to get an A in this course. The coursework takes a deep dive into Puerto Rican history, literature, and musicology. All the lectures and reading materials are in Spanish. The class was made up of 14 juniors and seniors majoring or minoring in Spanish.
 
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