We Moved Up Losing to Florida: Kenpom

Dward13

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I think Kenpom had us as a bigger dog than the vegas spread. So we actually overperformed.

Pope still has a lot of questions to answer and at this point unless he wins out or wins the whole damn thing, those questions will remain after the season. But todays game actually gives reasons for optimism for the rest of THIS season at least.
 

HenryMuto

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They moved down from 27th in NET to28th in NET remember last Sunday I complained about not moving at all in the NET up when we beat Tennessee and someone said well you were expected to win so makes sense.

Well now they were expected to lose by more than 9 yet still moved down 1 spot. It all depends also on what teams do around you.
 
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Aike

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I think Kenpom had us as a bigger dog than the vegas spread. So we actually overperformed.

Pope still has a lot of questions to answer and at this point unless he wins out or wins the whole damn thing, those questions will remain after the season. But todays game actually gives reasons for optimism for the rest of THIS season at least.
It didn’t. Those Kenpom numbers are per 100 possessions. So +11 becomes like +7.5. Then add another 3 points or so for homecourt.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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I mean, that was go na be a very tough game to win given our injuries, foul trouble, and how Florida has been playing. Lose by 10 or whatever, given all that, im not surprised we moved up.

Its not losing to Florida that bothers me, it was how we looked early on. Those are the losses that are unacceptable. But we kept it close with Florida and if we were healthy and MM wasnt in foul trouble all game, I think we have a shot to win.
 

NociHTTP

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Bruh, I'm just being a hyperbolic smartass.
jim carrey harry GIF
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Cool but just so I understand: your basic argument here is it would have been better if our Kenpom rating had dropped after losing to UF. I miss anything?
Not at all. I'm actually happy we're going to make the tournament. For a moment it looked like we were cooked. Pope has earned a third year.
 

BlueSince92

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Actually this is wrong Kentucky started the day before any games were played at 27th they are still 27th

They were 31st last week but even without playing they moved up to 27th during other teams games
Fair enough. I admit I only compared our rating after Kenpom calculated our game results to that snapshot of our ratings from Monday since that’s all the internet archive had available. It’s certainly interesting that some midweek games had that big an effect on our rating while our losing to a top 15 team head to head had no effect at all apparently. Either way no news is good news as far as a loss in the toughest game we had remaining not hurting our Kenpom rating at all. Now it’s just about how we do in more winnable scenarios, which was what it was about all along the way I predicted it.
 

theKybluedude

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Down 3 potential starters and playing hard; close loss to one of the best teams in the country on their home floor... l can live with it. Seems to be moving in a good direction. I choose to support the team that I love, not hope they lose so I can trash them and their coach.
You da man. Your common sense approach is welcomed.

Just can’t figure why some UK fans can’t give CMP a bit of time? It takes times for coaches.

I have to admire the fans of programs that extend patience and are 100% behind their program like the U Conn fans. Stayed behind Hurley through 4 poor years.
 
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Dward13

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It didn’t. Those Kenpom numbers are per 100 possessions. So +11 becomes like +7.5. Then add another 3 points or so for homecourt.

Ahh okay. I should have realized that. So when I look at the difference between 2 teams on Kenpom, one would have to take into account the two teams average possessions per game, divide those 2 numbers by 100, average the two numbers i guess? and then multiply that by the difference in Net Efficiency on Kenpom to get what Kenpoms predicted outcome would be?

(Asking you because you’re clearly a numbers person)
 
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UKortho

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WOW that’s wild! That’s not gonna happen I don’t think. So, if we win say 5/6 or win out, do we move up considerably, since it’s predicting we lose 4/6?!

A few games are close.
 

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Aike

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Ahh okay. I should have realized that. So when I look at the difference between 2 teams on Kenpom, one would have to take into account the two teams average possessions per game, divide those 2 numbers by 100, average the two numbers i guess? and then multiply that by the difference in Net Efficiency on Kenpom to get what Kenpoms predicted outcome would be?

(Asking you because you’re clearly a numbers person)
Yeah that should do it. Then add 3 points or so for homecourt.
 

davtay

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You da man. Your common sense approach is welcomed.

Just can’t figure why some UK fans can’t give CMP a bit of time? It takes times for coaches.

I have to admire the fans of programs that extend patience and are 100% behind their program like the U Conn fans. Stayed behind Hurley through 4 poor years.
Some of them want to saddle Pope with Cal's last four or five years and blame their "we're becoming Indiana" on Pope.
 
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SandyBell'sFaxMachine

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WOW that’s wild! That’s not gonna happen I don’t think. So, if we win say 5/6 or win out, do we move up considerably, since it’s predicting we lose 4/6?!
Our rating raises considerably which should raise us in the rankings considerably, other teams ratings will fluctuate some as well.