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@roadtrasheer , with many distractions...

You stated I hate Israel
You stated I am chanting from the river to the sea
You put your religious beliefs in supporting Israel
You stated all Muslims want to kill Americans. That we need Israel to handle the terrorism there before it comes to the USA.
You think USA gives funds to Israel out of generosity
You complain about how USA handles the taxes to which you claim is far left needs
You have stated my hatred for Israel but won't call out other countries...

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Over 300 billion has went to Israel since the late 1940s.

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I will stick with supporting all Americans (left and right) keeping our money within the states. As stated multiple times, every other country can go F themselves.

You have no idea on how the far right is growing with disgust of giving our money to a foreign country. Especially in the younger demographics. Far rights and lefts can hate one another yet both sides are gaining momentum of potential change. New candidates are being drilled by far right in people want to know if they will take AIPAC money.
 
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indyrockstar said:
@roadtrasheer , with many distractions...

You stated I hate Israel
You stated I am chanting from the river to the sea
You put your religious beliefs in supporting Israel
You stated all Muslims want to kill Americans. That we need Israel to handle the terrorism there before it comes to the USA.
You think USA gives funds to Israel out of generosity
You complain about how USA handles the taxes to which you claim is far left needs
You have stated my hatred for Israel but won't call out other countries...

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Over 300 billion has went to Israel since the late 1940s.

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I will stick with supporting all Americans (left and right) keeping our money within the states. As stated multiple times, every other country can go F themselves.

You have no idea on how the far right is growing with disgust of giving our money to a foreign country. Especially in the younger demographics. Far rights and lefts can hate one another yet both sides are gaining momentum of potential change. New candidates are being drilled by far right in people want to know if they will take AIPAC money.
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Religion is man-made. So you're wrong. Our faith in God has us supporting Israel.

What of it? Is that a problem?
 
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30CAT said:
Religion is man-made. So you're wrong. Our faith in God has us supporting Israel.

What of it? Is that a problem?
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Then take your religion and move there. You can worship their feet as you grovel to their desire

You guys pick and choose what's but never stay consistent. If you want to gripe about he economy, homelessness, healthcare (another BS subject), , what the left is doing with my tax dollars, etc... on how our taxes being used, this is the easiest layup possible. Even Matt Roadcap would make it.

Real Americans are going to overwhelming pass sending billions per year as free money. That same money to which gets kicked back to the politicians. We are signed up for 2029. It's ridiculous
 
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indyrockstar said:
Then take your religion and move there. You can worship their feet as you grovel to their desire

You guys pick and choose what's but never stay consistent. If you want to gripe about he economy, homelessness, healthcare (another BS subject), , what the left is doing with my tax dollars, etc... on how our taxes being used, this is the easiest layup possible. Even Matt Roadcap would make it.

Real Americans are going to overwhelming pass sending billions per year as free money. That same money to which gets kicked back to the politicians. We are signed up for 2029. It's ridiculous
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Again, you're wrong. I'm of no religion, because religion is man-made.

Faith is what I have.

Take yourself to a socialist country until you're ready to come back. And you will be running back.

Socialism sucks.

I support Israel.
 
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Again, you're wrong. I'm of no religion, because religion is man-made.

Faith is what I have.

Take yourself to a socialist country until you're ready to come back. And you will be running back.

Socialism sucks.

I support Israel.
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You are sheep with no true reasoning to support a foreign country from taking American tax dollars

If you want to support Izzy with your own money, 100% have the right to do it. Unfortunately, you supporting Izzy taking American tax dollars in general with no remorse. That's why Americans on both sides of the fence are sick of it.
 
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indyrockstar said:
You are sheep with no true reasoning to support a foreign country from taking American tax dollars

If you want to support Izzy with your own money, 100% have the right to do it. Unfortunately, you supporting Izzy taking American tax dollars in general with no remorse. That's why Americans on both sides of the fence are sick of it.
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You keep talking about Isreal getting tax dollars but never mention the other billions being fraudulently stolen by illegals in the guise of compassionate social programs.
I understand the concern of Isreal getting way to much unchecked and politicians getting kickbacks from it + the duel citizenship from several of our bastards in D.C .
By only bitching about the least of the evils (concerning tax dollars) only shows thats all you care about and you view jews as the world's evil Empire. They have been hunted since the beginning of time and genocide has been released on them over and over again ... prove me wrong .... the Muslims in that region would and has tried to wipe them out just because of their faith ...again prove me wrong...
Just in Minnesota alone there has been 9 billion in fraud to Somalia.... thats stolen money and many estimates much more , now add in the other states that we all know its happening in ..... all in the name of socialism.....
 
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roadtrasheer said:
You keep talking about Isreal getting tax dollars but never mention the other billions being fraudulently stolen by illegals in the guise of compassionate social programs.
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You like the distraction game a lot to try to save face. It doesn't work but keep at it and pretend no one notices over 300 billion and still going to at least 2029.

roadtrasheer said:
I understand the concern of Isreal getting way to much unchecked and politicians getting kickbacks from it + the duel citizenship from several of our bastards in D.C .
By only bitching about the least of the evils (concerning tax dollars) only shows thats all you care about and you view jews as the world's evil Empire.
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You understand it but at the same time, you support them. When you get questions, it's your strategy to say I hate Israel or not ***** about them stealing our tax money. I won't give them or any other foreign country a pass.

Also, you keep playing Israel equals all Jews. So now I hate all Jews. Another one of your fake distractions. I like to repeat this until you get in your thick skull, I support America first and want to keep our money here. I don't want it going any other foreign country. I have never once said Jews evil empire. I will say Israel evil empire. You will now try to lump it together next....

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They have been hunted since the beginning of time and genocide has been released on them over and over again ... prove me wrong .... the Muslims in that region would and has tried to wipe them out just because of their faith ...again prove me wrong...
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More fake distractions and avoid the big elephant of the room with over 300 billion stolen American tax dollars.

You wouldn't even know Muslims existed until Israel brought us into many wars. Where they trying to kill Americans before 1940s? The overall answer is no. Israel controls US media for decades and manipulates how to view Middle East. How many times did Netanyahu say if we don't stop Iran now, they will use nuclear capability on the Western countries.



roadtrasheer said:
Just in Minnesota alone there has been 9 billion in fraud to Somalia.... thats stolen money and many estimates much more , now add in the other states that we all know its happening in ..... all in the name of socialism.....
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So your new strategy is to look over here and lets no longer focus about Izzy. Then accuse myself of Jew hater, Muslim lover, Jews been hunted til the end of time, prove you wrong on the distractions, socialist blah, blah, blah....

I guess you just don't care enough as a supposed American. Next time someone bitches about any of the struggles in the USA, don't blame the left. Don't blame the right. Don't even bring up corrupt politicians. Until you are willing to cut all ties with them and any other country not named USA, you can continue your distractions.
 
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Mariam Johnson paid Trump 100 million in campaign to which he swore loyalty to Izzy
Biden is one of the all time biggest benefactor that has been collecting AIPAC money and other contributions since the last 1970s.

These politicians are getting called out so much now that AIPAC is having them not report donations

It's pretty bad when several websites are record keeping the numbers that benefitted by AIPAC donations

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Biden won’t set red lines for Israel so long as AIPAC is ‘top’ Democratic campaign funder​


BIden received $11,194,892
 
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indyrockstar said:
You like the distraction game a lot to try to save face. It doesn't work but keep at it and pretend no one notices over 300 billion and still going to at least 2029.



You understand it but at the same time, you support them. When you get questions, it's your strategy to say I hate Israel or not ***** about them stealing our tax money. I won't give them or any other foreign country a pass.

Also, you keep playing Israel equals all Jews. So now I hate all Jews. Another one of your fake distractions. I like to repeat this until you get in your thick skull, I support America first and want to keep our money here. I don't want it going any other foreign country. I have never once said Jews evil empire. I will say Israel evil empire. You will now try to lump it together next....



More fake distractions and avoid the big elephant of the room with over 300 billion stolen American tax dollars.

You wouldn't even know Muslims existed until Israel brought us into many wars. Where they trying to kill Americans before 1940s? The overall answer is no. Israel controls US media for decades and manipulates how to view Middle East. How many times did Netanyahu say if we don't stop Iran now, they will use nuclear capability on the Western countries.





So your new strategy is to look over here and lets no longer focus about Izzy. Then accuse myself of Jew hater, Muslim lover, Jews been hunted til the end of time, prove you wrong on the distractions, socialist blah, blah, blah....

I guess you just don't care enough as a supposed American. Next time someone bitches about any of the struggles in the USA, don't blame the left. Don't blame the right. Don't even bring up corrupt politicians. Until you are willing to cut all ties with them and any other country not named USA, you can continue your distractions.
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Im not distracting at all . I acknowledge the amount our politicians VOTE to send over and I believe its ridiculous. I readily admit our politicians are spending our money to get campaign contributions and kick backs . I acknowledge it needs to slow way down . I will always support Israel...full stop ....
You fail to understand what I see as a bigger problem than Izzy. I see fraud as a bigger problem. I see our country heading down the socialists path as a bigger evi. I see open borders as a bigger evil and its proven that those problems are worse than the 300 B$ to Israel. Just since 2020 the grift is 9B$ just in one state and its probably more there .....add that up across 50 states from 2020. So as I say I see a problem with so much and how its going to Israel they are not stealing our bastards are . But the corruption collecting free handouts is far worse and way more expensive..not to mention they are breaking laws.
Im far more inclined to say we start cleaning up our own corruption the Israel grift will get fixed in the process.
Your only evil is Israel and you have plainly stated you are for more socialists programs and we all know any government programs are corrupt from the start .... taking from one to give to another is stealing.
 
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roadtrasheer said:
Im not distracting at all . I acknowledge the amount our politicians VOTE to send over and I believe its ridiculous. I readily admit our politicians are spending our money to get campaign contributions and kick backs . I acknowledge it needs to slow way down . I will always support Israel...full stop ....
You fail to understand what I see as a bigger problem than Izzy. I see fraud as a bigger problem. I see our country heading down the socialists path as a bigger evi. I see open borders as a bigger evil and its proven that those problems are worse than the 300 B$ to Israel. Just since 2020 the grift is 9B$ just in one state and its probably more there .....add that up across 50 states from 2020. So as I say I see a problem with so much and how its going to Israel they are not stealing our bastards are . But the corruption collecting free handouts is far worse and way more expensive..not to mention they are breaking laws.
Im far more inclined to say we start cleaning up our own corruption the Israel grift will get fixed in the process.
Your only evil is Israel and you have plainly stated you are for more socialists programs and we all know any government programs are corrupt from the start .... taking from one to give to another is stealing.
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My only evil is Israel? When another country can manipulate and steal 100s of billions comes up, I will hate them at that same level. They not only control our money, they control our ways of life. Have you even looked up any of the state laws and how Israel is in many of them?

You could burn US flag (this is just an example here) but will be committing crime with burning Israel flag in the USA.

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States that you can’t boycott or support a boycott of Israel and be employed by the state government - because of anti-BDS laws​


Map Shows States Where Boycotting Israel is Illegal​


The states that have passed legislation making it illegal for state agencies to work with companies that boycott Israel include Texas, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Florida, Arizona, Georgia, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arkansas, Minnesota, Nevada, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Kansas, North Carolina, Utah, Missouri, Idaho, West Virginia, Colorado, Mississippi and New Hampshire.


In America, You Can Boycott Anything—Except Israel​


CAIR Action Alert: Urge Your U.S. Representative to Vote NO on IGO Anti-Boycott Act (H.R. 867) Over Threat to Free Speech Rights​


Why Burning the U.S. Flag Is Legal but Burning Israel's Isn't​


According to Jewish Telegraph, AIPAC has recently rushed an anti-BDS law through the U.S. Congress. To entice lawmakers, AIPAC reportedly sent more than 50 Congressional Representatives and top political operatives on an all-expense paid trip to Israel. The organization, described by critics as a group of unregistered foreign agents, has refused to release the names.

If you've been online recently and read Global Disconnect on Leslie's Substack, you may have come across viral posts warning of new legislation: the so-called "IGO Anti-Boycott Act," H.R. 867. The act could impose million-dollar fines or even 20 years in prison for Americans who support boycotts of Israel-or burn, tear down, or spit on its flag.

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@roadtrasheer

For the record, I get on you a bit more than others due to having a bit more level headed than others here. Yeah, we might not meet eye to eye on this overall. I just want you to be more inform to what is truly happening here.

At the end of the day, we both want what's best for America
 
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indyrockstar said:
My only evil is Israel? When another country can manipulate and steal 100s of billions comes up, I will hate them at that same level. They not only control our money, they control our ways of life. Have you even looked up any of the state laws and how Israel is in many of them?

You could burn US flag (this is just an example here) but will be committing crime with burning Israel flag in the USA.

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States that you can’t boycott or support a boycott of Israel and be employed by the state government - because of anti-BDS laws​


Map Shows States Where Boycotting Israel is Illegal​


The states that have passed legislation making it illegal for state agencies to work with companies that boycott Israel include Texas, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Florida, Arizona, Georgia, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arkansas, Minnesota, Nevada, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Kansas, North Carolina, Utah, Missouri, Idaho, West Virginia, Colorado, Mississippi and New Hampshire.


In America, You Can Boycott Anything—Except Israel​


CAIR Action Alert: Urge Your U.S. Representative to Vote NO on IGO Anti-Boycott Act (H.R. 867) Over Threat to Free Speech Rights​


Why Burning the U.S. Flag Is Legal but Burning Israel's Isn't​


According to Jewish Telegraph, AIPAC has recently rushed an anti-BDS law through the U.S. Congress. To entice lawmakers, AIPAC reportedly sent more than 50 Congressional Representatives and top political operatives on an all-expense paid trip to Israel. The organization, described by critics as a group of unregistered foreign agents, has refused to release the names.

If you've been online recently and read Global Disconnect on Leslie's Substack, you may have come across viral posts warning of new legislation: the so-called "IGO Anti-Boycott Act," H.R. 867. The act could impose million-dollar fines or even 20 years in prison for Americans who support boycotts of Israel-or burn, tear down, or spit on its flag.

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I cant argue that Israel is treated differently, I cant say i agree with it nor do I agree with special treatment of anyone.....I still do not see them as the ultimate evil you do. No matter how we see things until we get term limits nothing will change.
I see fraud as more of a problem than Israel. Hell just the fraud in the s.s administration far out ways Israel.
The reasons for the protections for jews is the atrocities thats been done to them .
 
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indyrockstar said:
@roadtrasheer

For the record, I get on you a bit more than others due to having a bit more level headed than others here. Yeah, we might not meet eye to eye on this overall. I just want you to be more inform to what is truly happening here.

At the end of the day, we both want what's best for America
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LMAO!

3.8 billion sent to Israel in 2025.

150 billion spent on illegal aliens in 2025.

You haven't talked about what's best for America yet.
 
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LMAO!

3.8 billion sent to Israel in 2025.

150 billion spent on illegal aliens in 2025.

You haven't talked about what's best for America yet.
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To not send the money to a foreign country....

Are you on crack?

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You guys love distractions.
 
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indyrockstar said:
To not send the money to a foreign country....

Are you on crack?

editing...

You guys love distractions.
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The United States provides foreign aid to nearly 180 countries, you're singling out Israel and it isn't receiving the most.

Why?
 
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30CAT said:
The United States provides foreign aid to nearly 180 countries, you're singling out Israel and it isn't receiving the most.

Why?
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Going to try this discussion with you... Don't screw it up

We have spent 300 billion plus and this is a generous number. We will never get any of this back other than more politicians being bought

According to you, we have spent 150 billion on illegal immigrants to remove from USA. The number is fine for this line of questioning.

So my answer is simple.

1. Do not give any money to foreign countries as freebie when we are having many issues within the states. Don't focus this as an Izzy thing either. I have been consistent time and time with stating every country. AKA, i make sure to say F every other country not named USA.
2. The money to remove illegal immigrants is Trump wanting to address inside our country's need, correct? One of my biggest issues is the approach by ICE. They are social profiling, using terror tactics, making many false arrests, covering up in masks to hide identity, etc... Trump is even losing Right side supporters due to the approach. 1000s of videos are out there. People can make their own call over it...

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Question 1 vs Question 2 are not the same relationship either. Question 1 is about giving away free money to a foreign country. Question 2 is attempting to address internal issue with immigrants in the USA.
 
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Rephrase your post. I did not say we spent 150 billion on removing illegal aliens. We spent that much on them by caring for them. Free healthcare, education, housing...etc.

Stop twisting what I say and we can have a conversation.
 
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California alone spent 8.5 billion caring for and harboring illegal aliens.
 
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Trump is the best President ever based solely on what he is done in regard to fixing the border and deporting illegals out of this country. Everything else he achieves is a cherry on top. Also love how we captured that Islamic terrorist involved in Benghazi.
 
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roadtrasheer said:
Im not distracting at all . I acknowledge the amount our politicians VOTE to send over and I believe its ridiculous. I readily admit our politicians are spending our money to get campaign contributions and kick backs . I acknowledge it needs to slow way down . I will always support Israel...full stop ....
You fail to understand what I see as a bigger problem than Izzy. I see fraud as a bigger problem. I see our country heading down the socialists path as a bigger evi. I see open borders as a bigger evil and its proven that those problems are worse than the 300 B$ to Israel. Just since 2020 the grift is 9B$ just in one state and its probably more there .....add that up across 50 states from 2020. So as I say I see a problem with so much and how its going to Israel they are not stealing our bastards are . But the corruption collecting free handouts is far worse and way more expensive..not to mention they are breaking laws.
Im far more inclined to say we start cleaning up our own corruption the Israel grift will get fixed in the process.
Your only evil is Israel and you have plainly stated you are for more socialists programs and we all know any government programs are corrupt from the start .... taking from one to give to another is stealing.
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Notice that douche didn’t address any bullsh!t spending?

ive never been a fan of Israel but after 10/7, I don’t give a **** if they kill 1 million gazans. Take a hostage, start the killing until they are released. Same goes for any nation.

it is comical to see whining about the money spent on Israel given the corruption in Washington. Let me know when this tw&t whines about the BLM expenditures with taxpayer money.
 
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30CAT said:
The United States provides foreign aid to nearly 180 countries, you're singling out Israel and it isn't receiving the most.

Why?
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Rephrase your post. I did not say we spent 150 billion on removing illegal aliens. We spent that much on them by caring for them. Free healthcare, education, housing...etc.

Stop twisting what I say and we can have a conversation.
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Going back to this since we want better accuracy here.

You stated 180 countries was getting foreign aid including Israel. Then clearly states Israel isn't the highest beneficiary. Which country are you referring to?

The follow up to this question is what is USA doing to address this specific country? What is USA doing to address Israel?

We want to address both countries with the same consistency as USA matters first. We can at least agree to this part. Stating anything differently is going to get called out.
 
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SoCo said:
Notice that douche didn’t address any bullsh!t spending?

ive never been a fan of Israel but after 10/7, I don’t give a **** if they kill 1 million gazans. Take a hostage, start the killing until they are released. Same goes for any nation.

it is comical to see whining about the money spent on Israel given the corruption in Washington. Let me know when this tw&t whines about the BLM expenditures with taxpayer money.
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i hurt you......... :ROFLMAO:

dumbass.
 
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