Did Dabo tug on the loose string?

[3USC1801]

You could find hundreds of cases exactly like that at every college program. Look at Raiola suddenly flipping from UGA to Nebraska. I'm sure it was entirely coincidental that Raiola's uncle was named OL coach at Nebraska right before he flipped.

I agree. Using influence and even offering positions is not new nor necessarily unfair.

One dynamic as fans is that rumors and speculations become fact very quickly when our rivals are involved. I’m like @18IsTheMan when it comes to some accusations . . . show me the proof! But a part of me wants to believe the rumors!

 

[Piscis]

I agree. Using influence and even offering positions is not new nor necessarily unfair.

One dynamic as fans is that rumors and speculations become fact very quickly when our rivals are involved. I’m like @18IsTheMan when it comes to some accusations . . . show me the proof! But a part of me wants to believe the rumors!

I used to, still do to a degree, chuckle whenever a recruit chose another school over us and fans immediately claimed "____________ paid him to come". Those same people never considered that when we got a recruit other teams wanted, they were saying the same thing about us. Now, the outrage over being outbid for a player has lost some of its power.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I used to, still do to a degree, chuckle whenever a recruit chose another school over us and fans immediately claimed "____________ paid him to come". Those same people never considered that when we got a recruit other teams wanted, they were saying the same thing about us. Now, the outrage over being outbid for a player has lost some of its power.

In my experience, Gamecock fans have never had a shortage of excuses for why we lose. Other teams buy players, other teams cheat, refs hate us, etc...

 

[Forkcock]

As @18IsTheMan, @Lurker123, @Harvard Gamecock and others have said, there is a difference between being a fan and supporting a logical solution to an overarching problem.

Some are less disposed to overlook the messenger than others. I get that and take their rant on the matter with a grain of salt. It’s what makes reading a message board enjoyable at times.

So, when @Forkcock becomes exasperated, I try to understand his/her stance. But I do smile a little inside and kind of agree because, after all, I’m a Gamecock fan!

I question anybody on a Gamecock board that gushes over Dabo Swinney.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Ole Miss fans are funny. Losing their minds on X that they are the ones taking heat for tampering when everyone else is doing it and they are just operating within the system that's been created.

News flash to Ole Miss fans: your coach was the only one stupid enough to personally text a player who was enrolled at another school and not in the portal.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I question anybody on a Gamecock board that gushes over Dabo Swinney.

He's right about the current state of college football.

Question away.

 

[Forkcock]

He's right about the current state of college football.

Question away.

I'm not saying he isn't but why do you insist on praising him on a Gamecock board?

It looks like you're either trolling or your over here posing as a Gamecock fan.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I'm not saying he isn't but why do you insist on praising him on a Gamecock board?

It looks like you're either trolling or your over here posing as a Gamecock fan.

I haven't praised him aside from this issue. It just happens to be the most important issue in college football. Everyone b*tches and moans about the state of college football. We all hate what it's become. Yet, not one person with a voice would ever speak up and say anything definitive. Until Dabo did it.

If some other coach had done what Dabo did, I'd be praising that coach instead. I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but Dabo is the only coach in all of college football with the stones to do what he did. All the other coaches will complain generically, but that is useless.

I've been BEGGING for some prominent coach in the game to speak up. I thought maybe Saban would be that guy after he retired and no longer had skin in the game, but he's in the bag for ESPN.

I've been pretty open on here for quite some time that I am fully aligned with Dabo philosophically on the state of college football. It's not a Carolina/Clemson issue. I get it, I hate Clemson too. But I can't divorce myself from having anything in common with Dabo. He drinks water and breathes air. Maybe when I was younger I'd have been in hating him for no reason other than he's Clemson's coach, but I agree with him on most big picture issues. I think he's one of the last coaches in the game who actually wants to recruit and develop players and train up men. That's why he shunned the portal for so long. I like his commitment to his recruits. You're gonna hate to hear it, but Dabo is what is supposed to be good about college football. He's the kind of coach most coaches used to be and were supposed to be.

As a side note, it's harder to keep up the hate when our own head coach and his wife are very close, good friends with the Swinneys.

 

[Lurker123]

I'm not saying he isn't but why do you insist on praising him on a Gamecock board?

It looks like you're either trolling or your over here posing as a Gamecock fan.

We covered that though, right? Distinguishing message board banter from honest real conversation.

I get that the lines get blurred, but there are times we try to speak normally on this board. Maybe we should have a designation for certain threads lile "no really, we're being serious with this one".

 

[Lurker123]

As a side note, it's harder to keep up the hate when our own head coach and his wife are very close, good friends with the Swinneys.

It might help that Shane has now come out publicly on support of Dabo.

MSN

 

[18IsTheMan]

It might help that Shane has now come out publicly on support of Dabo.

MSN

Ah, interesting. I assumed he'd be asked about it some point.

 

[3USC1801]

It might help that Shane has now come out publicly on support of Dabo.

MSN

I watched that press conference and was a little disappointed Beamer didn’t come out stronger in his support of Dabo. But it is a fellow SEC coach/school that’s under scrutiny, so I suppose he had to walk a tight line.

 

[Swifty]

Dabo Derangement Syndrome
Love him, hate him or indifferent. When he's right, he's right. period.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Well, it seems the issue with Ole Miss faded into oblivion. What seemed like a slam dunk situation for the NCAA to take action, given the very public and undeniable tampering that took place, has fallen victim to the NCAA's usual snail's pace of getting anything done. More or less, the sentiment of the entire college football world was on the side of the NCAA taking action, but they waited too long and everyone has moved on.

They can rightly complain about lawfare that limits what they can do, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to do things.

 

[Piscis]

I'm not saying he isn't but why do you insist on praising him on a Gamecock board?

It looks like you're either trolling or your over here posing as a Gamecock fan.

It seems you are suffering from a syndrome very similar to Trump Derangement Syndrome, Clemson Derangement Syndrome. Agreeing with Dabo isn't the same as praising him and in no way makes someone a fan of Clemson.

Now that college football is nothing more than a lower tier professional football league, my intense feelings towards rivals has cooled dramatically. I have a hard time hating the employees of another business. Players today are doing a job for their employer. Their loyalty to the team is no stronger than the paycheck. Why should I be heavily emotionally invested in where a player decides to work? I know lots of people who are alumni of schools that are/were big rivals and they are generally good people. Even people who are nothing more than fans of rival teams are mostly good people.

 

[Forkcock]

It seems you are suffering from a syndrome very similar to Trump Derangement Syndrome, Clemson Derangement Syndrome. Agreeing with Dabo isn't the same as praising him and in no way makes someone a fan of Clemson.

Now that college football is nothing more than a lower tier professional football league, my intense feelings towards rivals has cooled dramatically. I have a hard time hating the employees of another business. Players today are doing a job for their employer. Their loyalty to the team is no stronger than the paycheck. Why should I be heavily emotionally invested in where a player decides to work? I know lots of people who are alumni of schools that are/were big rivals and they are generally good people. Even people who are nothing more than fans of rival teams are mostly good people.

I remember The Rant. Screw Dabo. He thinks very little of our school and our fans.

 

[CreekSnake]

I guess Spurrier answered for the Infractions Committee when he said “Somebody tell Dabo there ain’t any rules anymore.”

 

[18IsTheMan]

I guess Spurrier answered for the Infractions Committee when he said “Somebody tell Dabo there ain’t any rules anymore.”

I can almost see the NCAA rationalizing that they can't punish Ole Miss b/c then they'd have to punish virtually every P4 program.

If Ole Miss go punished in any meaningful way, you can probably rest assured they'd bring receipts for other teams tampering. Then those teams would do the same, etc.

 

[Piscis]

I can almost see the NCAA rationalizing that they can't punish Ole Miss b/c then they'd have to punish virtually every P4 program.

If Ole Miss go punished in any meaningful way, you can probably rest assured they'd bring receipts for other teams tampering. Then those teams would do the same, etc.

That would be the best thing that could happen. If this isn't taken care of now, in the early years, imagine how bad things will be going forward. The NCAA is basically sending the signal that the rules aren't really "rules", they are wishes for how the NCAA would like things to be.

 

[18IsTheMan]

That would be the best thing that could happen. If this isn't taken care of now, in the early years, imagine how bad things will be going forward. The NCAA is basically sending the signal that the rules aren't really "rules", they are wishes for how the NCAA would like things to be.

Completely agree. I can just see the NCAA not wanting to deal with the hassle of it all.

I'd expect they'll hand down some minor slap on the wrist for Ole Miss. Enough to say they punished them but not enough to make Ole Miss mad enough to rat others out.

Tampering has rapidly become an integral part of college football. Programs are dependent on it for recruiting via the portal. I'd like to know the % of players who are enticed to enter the portal when they otherwise might not have done so.