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[Drogon]

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Looking up at Oweh in both. Just say you're arguing for argument's sake and move on. Instead of reiterating a terrible ******* opinion over and over again.


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/otega-oweh-1/gamelog/2026 Avg game score: 12.4
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/denzel-aberdeen-1/gamelog/2026 Avg game score: 9.4
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/collin-chandler-1/gamelog/2026 Avg game score: 7.5





Based on 2025-2026 season data, Otega Oweh is generally considered the most consistent and elite performer among the trio, noted as one of the finest players in the country with high-volume scoring. While Denzel Aberdeen and Collin Chandler are key contributors for Kentucky, Oweh has demonstrated more consistent double-digit scoring streaks.
Player Performance Analysis (2025-26 Season):


Otega Oweh: Described as one of the finest players in America, he averaged 16.3 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 2.5 assists, often carrying the scoring load with 20+ point performances in SEC play.

Denzel Aberdeen: A key contributor who scored 19 points in a win against Texas, though his impact has been more inconsistent in Kentucky's losses.

Collin Chandler: An athletic player with a career-high 18-point game, but has been noted to have a slower jump shot and acts as a secondary scorer to Oweh.

Oweh is generally considered the better all-around player due to his consistent high-level production. But I get it. **** THE FACTS!!!!

 

[Drogon]

If Oweh were listed as out for tomorrow the point spread might triple

 

[kyjeff1]

Wouldn’t be pretty, don’t know how much better it’ll be with him though.

Oweh is definitely needed, in the traditional sense. My issue is, he’s vastly overrated, and I believe has absolutely destroyed this team. There was a lot that went on early with Oweh from the second Aberdeen was brought in and rumor is, paid slightly more. He definitely wasnt paid less. Oweh was going to be destructive that second on and was.

Oweh is needed, he just isnt enough, and I worry about some other things with him also, I’m not alone there. I would have been forced to run him out of here and take the L’s. More could be explained but I can’t throw it all around. Maybe privately.

You’re saying the same things here that the rest of us have been telling you.

Who is overrating Oweh though? Nobody is saying Oweh is Tyrese Maxey, we all know what Oweh is, you're the one that has been saying he's a team cancer and needs to be benched.

Oweh wasn’t the only one destroying the team. Mo D, Aberdeen and Garrison were also destroying team chemistry, but you keep singling Oweh out.

We know the roster is flawed, but we also know that Oweh has to play at least 30mpg for this team to have any kind of a chance to win. You disagreed with this, are you agreeing now?

 

[howitis_rivals115807]

I'll ask this again. When you are reducing Oweh's minutes, what do you think that means? Where is Oweh going to go when you pull him out and put Noah in the game? Does he remain on the court, or does he go to the bench?

You realize we are only allowed to have 5 players on the court, right? So when you put Noah in for Oweh, where do you think Oweh goes?

But now it seems like you're changing your argument. You’re now saying the roster is flawed. Well duhhhh, that's what we have been telling you.

Are you changing your stance, or are you sticking with your belief that Oweh's minutes should be reduced and Noah, Chandler and Johndon should get those minutes? Let's start there, because it seems like you're changing your stance now.

we are down double digits in the first half of pretty much every game, and just lost by 30. how much worse do you think it can get. he needs to bench every player as soon as they do something stupid. if he had done this from the start we might be in a better situation now. truth is pope doesn't have it in him to control this team.

 

[kyjeff1]

You guys are trying so hard. Lulz

Why would Noah, occasionally playing the 3 for Oweh, be guarding Acuff? Might he occasionally have to switch? Sure! But I doubt he would find himself on Acuff much.

Do you all really expect Oweh to guard Acuff? Hahaha.

Lets repeat the same behavior and expect different results in our 22nd game of the season. That'll show em!

You lose all credibility the second you advocate for Noah to play any minutes at all in an SEC game.

If there was a sliver of credibility left, you lost that the second you thought playing Noah at the 3, against any SEC team, is a good idea.

Do you realize that means he would be guarding Knox, Richmond, or possibly Thomas?

Also, do you understand what happens in a ball screen? What do you think happens when Acuff has the ball and Noah's man sets a high ball screen? Can you tell me what happens there?

Yeah, it means Noah is now guarding Darius Acuff at the top of the key and Brazille is now going to exit the paint and drag Moreno with him. Now you have Noah guarding Acuff one on one with nobody in the paint. How do you think that scenario ends?

Even Calipari is smart enough to do this every time down the court.

Switch Noah out for Chandler and/or Johnson and it’s the same thing, none of those three can guard his shadow.

Maybe think before you post.

 

[kyjeff1]

You're arguing with a ******* moron

I know, I know, I can't help it. I'm just hoping he's going to finally catch his tail and realize it tastes like sh*t, because it is sh*t.

 

[Drogon]

You lose all credibility the second you advocate for Noah to play any minutes at all in an SEC game.

If there was a sliver of credibility left, you lost that the second you thought playing Noah at the 3, against any SEC team, is a good idea.

Do you realize that means he would be guarding Knox, Richmond, or possibly Thomas?

Also, do you understand what happens in a ball screen? What do you think happens when Acuff has the ball and Noah's man sets a high ball screen? Can you tell me what happens there?

Yeah, it means Noah is now guarding Darius Acuff at the top of the key and Brazille is now going to exit the paint and drag Moreno with him. Now you have Noah guarding Acuff one on one with nobody in the paint. How do you think that scenario ends?

Even Calipari is smart enough to do this every time down the court.

Switch Noah out for Chandler and/or Johnson and it’s the same thing, none of those three can guard his shadow.

Maybe think before you post.

I dont know how youve tolerated chatting with that moron for 4 or 5 pages, I had to mute their ignorance. My bad I was typing this as you responded,

 

[kyjeff1]

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Looking up at Oweh in both. Just say you're arguing for argument's sake and move on. Instead of reiterating a terrible ******* opinion over and over again.


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/otega-oweh-1/gamelog/2026 Avg game score: 12.4
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/denzel-aberdeen-1/gamelog/2026 Avg game score: 9.4
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/collin-chandler-1/gamelog/2026 Avg game score: 7.5





Based on 2025-2026 season data, Otega Oweh is generally considered the most consistent and elite performer among the trio, noted as one of the finest players in the country with high-volume scoring. While Denzel Aberdeen and Collin Chandler are key contributors for Kentucky, Oweh has demonstrated more consistent double-digit scoring streaks.
Player Performance Analysis (2025-26 Season):

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Otega Oweh: Described as one of the finest players in America, he averaged 16.3 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 2.5 assists, often carrying the scoring load with 20+ point performances in SEC play.
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Denzel Aberdeen: A key contributor who scored 19 points in a win against Texas, though his impact has been more inconsistent in Kentucky's losses.
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Collin Chandler: An athletic player with a career-high 18-point game, but has been noted to have a slower jump shot and acts as a secondary scorer to Oweh.

Oweh is generally considered the better all-around player due to his consistent high-level production. But I get it. **** THE FACTS!!!!

Game
Set
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[Anony Moose]

I'll ask this again. When you are reducing Oweh's minutes, what do you think that means? Where is Oweh going to go when you pull him out and put Noah in the game? Does he remain on the court, or does he go to the bench?

You realize we are only allowed to have 5 players on the court, right? So when you put Noah in for Oweh, where do you think Oweh goes?

But now it seems like you're changing your argument. You’re now saying the roster is flawed. Well duhhhh, that's what we have been telling you.

Are you changing your stance, or are you sticking with your belief that Oweh's minutes should be reduced and Noah, Chandler and Johnson should get those minutes? Let's start there, because it seems like you're changing your stance now.

This is embarrassing, because you still don’t understand the argument, and now you’re loudly arguing with something that was never said.

The fact that you think the only two options are “Oweh shoots everything” or “Oweh sits on the bench” tells me exactly how shallow your understanding of offense is.

I’m not confused at all. You just keep pretending basketball rotations are binary because it’s the only way your argument survives.

Yes, I want Oweh’s minutes reduced by about 8–10 per game, not benched, and I want some of those minutes redistributed to Noah (and others), not handed over wholesale. That’s called managing minutes and lineups, not committing treason.

And here’s why that’s reasonable, whether you like it or not:

Oweh is a high-usage, high-variance player. More minutes for him doesn’t just mean more scoring chances. It means more forced possessions, more defensive fatigue, worse shot selection, and bigger swings night to night. Cutting 8–10 minutes isn’t a punishment; it’s a way to lower volatility and improve overall offensive efficiency.

Noah isn’t being asked to “carry” anything. That’s your favorite straw man.

He’s being asked to:
•keep the ball moving
•take open shots when they’re there
•not bleed possessions
•stabilize lineups when Oweh sits

That’s it. And yes, that role has value , especially on a roster that lives and dies by one guy trying
to do too much.

You keep framing this like the only alternatives are:
1.Oweh plays hero ball for 35 minutes
2.We give the keys to walk-ons

That’s nonsense. Teams manage stars’ minutes all the time to maximize effectiveness. If Oweh truly is the best option, he should be better in fewer, more controlled minutes, not worse because he’s exhausted and forcing offense.

So let me make it painfully clear, since you keep dodging it:
•Oweh stays a primary option
•Oweh plays fewer minutes
•Oweh takes fewer low-quality shots
•The offense becomes less predictable and less fragile

If that sounds insane to you, then your issue isn’t with me … it’s with the idea that basketball is about maximizing team output, not worshipping one guy’s usage rate.

You can keep yelling “nobody else can do it,” but that doesn’t mean the same approach deserves infinite reps when the results are inconsistent.

Noah’s value isn’t that he can “carry a team.” That’s a straw man you keep dragging out. His value is that he:

•doesn’t hijack possessions
•doesn’t force bad shots
•keeps the offense flowing
•doesn’t require defensive attention to function

That matters on a roster where one player taking too much on himself actively lowers the team ceiling.

You keep acting like the only question is who can take the hardest shots. That’s not how winning basketball works. The real question is who improves the offense when they’re on the floor, even if they aren’t a star. Sometimes that’s a role player who knows his limits.

And here’s the part you don’t want to deal with:
If the offense only works when Oweh plays hero ball, then the offense is broken. Playing Noah more isn’t pretending he’s better. It's an attempt to decrease volatility, increase ball movement, and stop treating every possession like a bailout attempt.

Yes, Oweh can do things Noah can’t.
And yes, Noah can do things Oweh refuses to do... namely, play within the offense without bleeding possessions.

That’s not stupidity. That’s tradeoff analysis.
You’re obsessed with “who’s the best player.”
I’m talking about how to get the most out of a bad roster.

If your only solution is “let the same guy keep forcing it because nobody else can,” then don’t be shocked when the results stay exactly the same.

 

[kyjeff1]

we are down double digits in the first half of pretty much every game, and just lost by 30. how much worse do you think it can get. he needs to bench every player as soon as they do something stupid. if he had done this from the start we might be in a better situation now. truth is pope doesn't have it in him to control this team.

Benching the starters does no good when your bench is full of dudes that make even more mistakes.

 

[kyjeff1]

This is embarrassing, because you still don’t understand the argument, and now you’re loudly arguing with something that was never said.

The fact that you think the only two options are “Oweh shoots everything” or “Oweh sits on the bench” tells me exactly how shallow your understanding of offense is.

I’m not confused at all. You just keep pretending basketball rotations are binary because it’s the only way your argument survives.

Yes, I want Oweh’s minutes reduced by about 8–10 per game, not benched, and I want some of those minutes redistributed to Noah (and others), not handed over wholesale. That’s called managing minutes and lineups, not committing treason.

And here’s why that’s reasonable, whether you like it or not:

Oweh is a high-usage, high-variance player. More minutes for him doesn’t just mean more scoring chances. It means more forced possessions, more defensive fatigue, worse shot selection, and bigger swings night to night. Cutting 8–10 minutes isn’t a punishment; it’s a way to lower volatility and improve overall offensive efficiency.

Noah isn’t being asked to “carry” anything. That’s your favorite straw man.

He’s being asked to:
•keep the ball moving
•take open shots when they’re there
•not bleed possessions
•stabilize lineups when Oweh sits

That’s it. And yes, that role has value , especially on a roster that lives and dies by one guy trying
to do too much.

You keep framing this like the only alternatives are:
1.Oweh plays hero ball for 35 minutes
2.We give the keys to walk-ons

That’s nonsense. Teams manage stars’ minutes all the time to maximize effectiveness. If Oweh truly is the best option, he should be better in fewer, more controlled minutes, not worse because he’s exhausted and forcing offense.

So let me make it painfully clear, since you keep dodging it:
•Oweh stays a primary option
•Oweh plays fewer minutes
•Oweh takes fewer low-quality shots
•The offense becomes less predictable and less fragile

If that sounds insane to you, then your issue isn’t with me … it’s with the idea that basketball is about maximizing team output, not worshipping one guy’s usage rate.

You can keep yelling “nobody else can do it,” but that doesn’t mean the same approach deserves infinite reps when the results are inconsistent.

Noah’s value isn’t that he can “carry a team.” That’s a straw man you keep dragging out. His value is that he:

•doesn’t hijack possessions
•doesn’t force bad shots
•keeps the offense flowing
•doesn’t require defensive attention to function

That matters on a roster where one player taking too much on himself actively lowers the team ceiling.

You keep acting like the only question is who can take the hardest shots. That’s not how winning basketball works. The real question is who improves the offense when they’re on the floor, even if they aren’t a star. Sometimes that’s a role player who knows his limits.

And here’s the part you don’t want to deal with:
If the offense only works when Oweh plays hero ball, then the offense is broken. Playing Noah more isn’t pretending he’s better. It's an attempt to decrease volatility, increase ball movement, and stop treating every possession like a bailout attempt.

Yes, Oweh can do things Noah can’t.
And yes, Noah can do things Oweh refuses to do... namely, play within the offense without bleeding possessions.

That’s not stupidity. That’s tradeoff analysis.
You’re obsessed with “who’s the best player.”
I’m talking about how to get the most out of a bad roster.

If your only solution is “let the same guy keep forcing it because nobody else can,” then don’t be shocked when the results stay exactly the same.

OMG, make it stop.

 

[preston-lemasterpiece]

This is embarrassing, because you still don’t understand the argument, and now you’re loudly arguing with something that was never said.

The fact that you think the only two options are “Oweh shoots everything” or “Oweh sits on the bench” tells me exactly how shallow your understanding of offense is.

I’m not confused at all. You just keep pretending basketball rotations are binary because it’s the only way your argument survives.

Yes, I want Oweh’s minutes reduced by about 8–10 per game, not benched, and I want some of those minutes redistributed to Noah (and others), not handed over wholesale. That’s called managing minutes and lineups, not committing treason.

And here’s why that’s reasonable, whether you like it or not:

Oweh is a high-usage, high-variance player. More minutes for him doesn’t just mean more scoring chances. It means more forced possessions, more defensive fatigue, worse shot selection, and bigger swings night to night. Cutting 8–10 minutes isn’t a punishment; it’s a way to lower volatility and improve overall offensive efficiency.

Noah isn’t being asked to “carry” anything. That’s your favorite straw man.

He’s being asked to:
•keep the ball moving
•take open shots when they’re there
•not bleed possessions
•stabilize lineups when Oweh sits

That’s it. And yes, that role has value , especially on a roster that lives and dies by one guy trying
to do too much.

You keep framing this like the only alternatives are:
1.Oweh plays hero ball for 35 minutes
2.We give the keys to walk-ons

That’s nonsense. Teams manage stars’ minutes all the time to maximize effectiveness. If Oweh truly is the best option, he should be better in fewer, more controlled minutes, not worse because he’s exhausted and forcing offense.

So let me make it painfully clear, since you keep dodging it:
•Oweh stays a primary option
•Oweh plays fewer minutes
•Oweh takes fewer low-quality shots
•The offense becomes less predictable and less fragile

If that sounds insane to you, then your issue isn’t with me … it’s with the idea that basketball is about maximizing team output, not worshipping one guy’s usage rate.

You can keep yelling “nobody else can do it,” but that doesn’t mean the same approach deserves infinite reps when the results are inconsistent.

Noah’s value isn’t that he can “carry a team.” That’s a straw man you keep dragging out. His value is that he:

•doesn’t hijack possessions
•doesn’t force bad shots
•keeps the offense flowing
•doesn’t require defensive attention to function

That matters on a roster where one player taking too much on himself actively lowers the team ceiling.

You keep acting like the only question is who can take the hardest shots. That’s not how winning basketball works. The real question is who improves the offense when they’re on the floor, even if they aren’t a star. Sometimes that’s a role player who knows his limits.

And here’s the part you don’t want to deal with:
If the offense only works when Oweh plays hero ball, then the offense is broken. Playing Noah more isn’t pretending he’s better. It's an attempt to decrease volatility, increase ball movement, and stop treating every possession like a bailout attempt.

Yes, Oweh can do things Noah can’t.
And yes, Noah can do things Oweh refuses to do... namely, play within the offense without bleeding possessions.

That’s not stupidity. That’s tradeoff analysis.
You’re obsessed with “who’s the best player.”
I’m talking about how to get the most out of a bad roster.

If your only solution is “let the same guy keep forcing it because nobody else can,” then don’t be shocked when the results stay exactly the same.

damn dude just leave it, Noah shouldn't see the court on a serious SEC team. please stop ruining threads

 

[Anony Moose]

OMG, make it stop.

Are you forced to reply or something?

damn dude just leave it, Noah shouldn't see the court on a serious SEC team. please stop ruining threads

I won't. Am I not allowed to think differently from you?

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I actually agree with about 80% of what you just said, but that’s exactly why the final conclusion doesn’t hold.

You’re right that offensive efficiency is tied to usage, shot quality, and possessions. You’re also right that if other players took Oweh’s volume, their efficiency would likely drop, and if Oweh reduced his volume, his efficiency would rise. That’s literally why analysts adjust for usage instead of hand-waving it away.

Where the argument breaks is here:
"He has to be the guy, therefore his inefficiency is inevitable and acceptable.” That’s not an analytical conclusion, that’s a roster explanation.

If “as Oweh goes, our offense goes,” that’s not evidence of value; it’s evidence of fragility. One-player dependency is a weakness, not a virtue. Teams with sustainable offenses look like Arizona and Michigan precisely because no single player dominates usage to the point that the offense rises and falls with his shot diet.

And the KenPom contributor tiers actually reinforce the concern. If Oweh is the only major contributor left, that doesn’t mean he should take even more marginal shots, it means the offense needs to change, not double down on the least efficient option available.

High usage doesn’t automatically justify shot volume; it raises the standard. If Oweh were truly an elite offensive engine, his efficiency would remain strong relative to other high-usage players, not just improve in a hypothetical where he shoots less. “His numbers would be better if he took fewer shots” is true for literally every player in basketball.

So yes, context matters. But context doesn’t erase opportunity cost. When a player dominates possessions at average efficiency, the issue isn’t that the model is wrong; it’s that the offense is capped.

Yes it is a weakness but it's not Oweh that's the problem. It's like you said roster construction. We don't have the players. Oweh doesn't have a choice here. We do not have a choice here. If there was better options then by all means we should be using those options. There are none tho.

How exactly do you want the offense to change? And lets be honest here, Oweh doesn't have a poor offensive efficiency. He is not the "least efficient option" by far.

 

[Smeegs]

I won't. Am I not allowed to think differently from you?

Like …ever? You’ve been incessantly pushing this silly argument for what seems like several days on several different threads now …and frankly, folks are getting tired of seeing it. It’s downright weird how important this seems to be with you.

Especially since it’s a dumb argument. I have my own issues with Oweh, but we’re still better off with him at that spot than Noah. And it ain’t even close.

You’re entitled to have a different opinion, and you’ve already expressed it …no need to keep repeatedly bleating it at us 8924 times.

 

[Anony Moose]

Yes it is a weakness but it's not Oweh that's the problem. It's like you said roster construction. We don't have the players. Oweh doesn't have a choice here. We do not have a choice here. If there was better options then by all means we should be using those options. There are none tho.

How exactly do you want the offense to change? And lets be honest here, Oweh doesn't have a poor offensive efficiency. He is not the "least efficient option" by far.

Let’s stop pretending this is complicated.

Oweh is part of the problem, not because he’s bad, but because we are forcing him into a role he clearly is not equipped to play. He is being asked to be a primary creator, a possession stabilizer, and a late clock answer, and that is not his game. The result is predictable: long stretches of nothing, forced offense, and poor efficiency.

And yes, he has a choice, just like the coaching staff does. Repeating the same behavior while expecting different results is not loyalty, it is negligence.

Saying there are no better options is lazy analysis. There are better options, not better players, but better distribution of responsibility. Playing Oweh fewer minutes is not punishing him, it is protecting him. Fewer minutes means more energy, sharper decisions, and touches that actually matter.

Do Chandler, Noah, or anyone else suddenly become stars in those minutes? Of course not. That is not the point. Collectively, they can give you enough to take pressure off Oweh so he does not have to pretend to be something he is not.

And let’s be honest about the facts. Oweh does not have good offensive efficiency. Not the worst, but nowhere near good enough to justify the role he is being forced into. That is not opinion. That is data.

Doing exactly what we have been doing is killing this season. Everyone knows it. So what is the fear in trying something different? Losing games we are already losing?

This season is already being wasted.
The only real failure left would be refusing to adjust.

 

[Anony Moose]

Like …ever? You’ve been incessantly pushing this silly argument for what seems like several days on several different threads now …and frankly, folks are getting tired of seeing it. It’s downright weird how important this seems to be with you.

Especially since it’s a dumb argument. I have my own issues with Oweh, but we’re still better off with him at that spot than Noah. And it ain’t even close.

You’re entitled to have a different opinion, and you’ve already expressed it …no need to keep repeatedly bleating it at us 8924 times.

That's your opinion. You notice, I'm not whining about you having it?

You're free to ignore me. But I am free to have the conversations I like with people that are clearly replying to my posts.

Don't like it? Don't use the site.

 

[Anon1759768907]

Let’s stop pretending this is complicated.

Oweh is part of the problem, not because he’s bad, but because we are forcing him into a role he clearly is not equipped to play. He is being asked to be a primary creator, a possession stabilizer, and a late clock answer, and that is not his game. The result is predictable: long stretches of nothing, forced offense, and poor efficiency.

And yes, he has a choice, just like the coaching staff does. Repeating the same behavior while expecting different results is not loyalty, it is negligence.

Saying there are no better options is lazy analysis. There are better options, not better players, but better distribution of responsibility. Playing Oweh fewer minutes is not punishing him, it is protecting him. Fewer minutes means more energy, sharper decisions, and touches that actually matter.

Do Chandler, Noah, or anyone else suddenly become stars in those minutes? Of course not. That is not the point. Collectively, they can give you enough to take pressure off Oweh so he does not have to pretend to be something he is not.

And let’s be honest about the facts. Oweh does not have good offensive efficiency. Not the worst, but nowhere near good enough to justify the role he is being forced into. That is not opinion. That is data.

Doing exactly what we have been doing is killing this season. Everyone knows it. So what is the fear in trying something different? Losing games we are already losing?

This season is already being wasted.
The only real failure left would be refusing to adjust.

yeah and we gotta replace oweh, and how are we gonna do that? a buackup from harvard?

 

[preston-lemasterpiece]

Let’s stop pretending this is complicated.

Oweh is part of the problem, not because he’s bad, but because we are forcing him into a role he clearly is not equipped to play. He is being asked to be a primary creator, a possession stabilizer, and a late clock answer, and that is not his game. The result is predictable: long stretches of nothing, forced offense, and poor efficiency.

And yes, he has a choice, just like the coaching staff does. Repeating the same behavior while expecting different results is not loyalty, it is negligence.

Saying there are no better options is lazy analysis. There are better options, not better players, but better distribution of responsibility. Playing Oweh fewer minutes is not punishing him, it is protecting him. Fewer minutes means more energy, sharper decisions, and touches that actually matter.

Do Chandler, Noah, or anyone else suddenly become stars in those minutes? Of course not. That is not the point. Collectively, they can give you enough to take pressure off Oweh so he does not have to pretend to be something he is not.

And let’s be honest about the facts. Oweh does not have good offensive efficiency. Not the worst, but nowhere near good enough to justify the role he is being forced into. That is not opinion. That is data.

Doing exactly what we have been doing is killing this season. Everyone knows it. So what is the fear in trying something different? Losing games we are already losing?

This season is already being wasted.
The only real failure left would be refusing to adjust.

i agree with all that.
now please have mercy on us

 

[Anony Moose]

yeah and we gotta replace oweh, and how are we gonna do that? a buackup from harvard?

By committee with our current players.

Again, do you really want to keep doing the same thing?

 

[Anon1759768907]

By committee with our current players.

Again, do you really want to keep doing the same thing?

yeah well no one on the current roster can replicate anything close to what oweh does for us

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Let’s stop pretending this is complicated.

Oweh is part of the problem, not because he’s bad, but because we are forcing him into a role he clearly is not equipped to play. He is being asked to be a primary creator, a possession stabilizer, and a late clock answer, and that is not his game. The result is predictable: long stretches of nothing, forced offense, and poor efficiency.

And yes, he has a choice, just like the coaching staff does. Repeating the same behavior while expecting different results is not loyalty, it is negligence.

Saying there are no better options is lazy analysis. There are better options, not better players, but better distribution of responsibility. Playing Oweh fewer minutes is not punishing him, it is protecting him. Fewer minutes means more energy, sharper decisions, and touches that actually matter.

Do Chandler, Noah, or anyone else suddenly become stars in those minutes? Of course not. That is not the point. Collectively, they can give you enough to take pressure off Oweh so he does not have to pretend to be something he is not.

And let’s be honest about the facts. Oweh does not have good offensive efficiency. Not the worst, but nowhere near good enough to justify the role he is being forced into. That is not opinion. That is data.

Doing exactly what we have been doing is killing this season. Everyone knows it. So what is the fear in trying something different? Losing games we are already losing?

This season is already being wasted.
The only real failure left would be refusing to adjust.

But that's your opinion. That there are better options. I don't believe that. I don't believe that taking the load off Oweh and giving that to the Chandler's and Noah's of the world makes us more efficient on offense.

Do Chandler, Noah, or anyone else suddenly become stars in those minutes? Of course not. That is not the point. Collectively, they can give you enough to take pressure off Oweh so he does not have to pretend to be something he is not.

But can they? I'm not really so sure of that.

 

[Anony Moose]

yeah well no one on the current roster can replicate anything close to what oweh does for us

Except they can. And how exactly is Oweh helping us now?

But that's your opinion. That there are better options. I don't believe that. I don't believe that taking the load off Oweh and giving that to the Chandler's and Noah's of the world makes us more efficient on offense.

Do Chandler, Noah, or anyone else suddenly become stars in those minutes? Of course not. That is not the point. Collectively, they can give you enough to take pressure off Oweh so he does not have to pretend to be something he is not.

But can they? I'm not really so sure of that.

It's not so much an opinion as it is interpreting data.

Let me ask you something. If we are doing it the way you believe is best and getting our asses kicked regularly, why not try something different? What is there to lose?

But the data says they can. Again, what do.we have to lose by trying it? We are literally already losing the games. Doing the same thing knowing we are likely to lose again doesn't seem like the most logical approach.

 

[Anon1759768907]

But that's your opinion. That there are better options. I don't believe that. I don't believe that taking the load off Oweh and giving that to the Chandler's and Noah's of the world makes us more efficient on offense.

Do Chandler, Noah, or anyone else suddenly become stars in those minutes? Of course not. That is not the point. Collectively, they can give you enough to take pressure off Oweh so he does not have to pretend to be something he is not.

But can they? I'm not really so sure of that.

i dont want first option collin chandler or trent noah, what are we doing bro

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

i dont want first option collin chandler or trent noah, what are we doing bro

Exactly. There's only one person here that seems to think this is the preferred option lol.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Except they can. And how exactly is Oweh helping us now?



It's not so much an opinion as it is interpreting data.

Let me ask you something. If we are doing it the way you believe is best and getting our asses kicked regularly, why not try something different? What is there to lose?

But the data says they can. Again, what do.we have to lose by trying it? We are literally already losing the games. Doing the same thing knowing we are likely to lose again doesn't seem like the most logical approach.

We just came off a 5 game win streak. We knocked off teams like LSU and UT on the road. We are 5-3 in the SEC. Tied for third and only two games back from first.

We have been deciminated with injuires. We don't have the PG we thought we were going to coming into the season. We are without a center whose defense would have no doubt helped if healthy. We are now without Kam who hit 40% from 3 last season.

Honestly given what we had, it's not nearly as bad as some are making this out to be.

 

[Anony Moose]

We just came off a 5 game win streak. We knocked off teams like LSU and UT on the road. We are 5-3 in the SEC. Tied for third and only two games back from first.

We have been deciminated with injuires. We don't have the PG we thought we were going to coming into the season. We are without a center whose defense would have no doubt helped if healthy. We are now without Kam who hit 40% from 3 last season.

Honestly given what we had, it's not nearly as bad as some are making this out to be.

We beat 5 teams with a combined 12-22 record in SEC play, and, like, 5 or 6 of those wins were TNs wins. What exactly do you think we accomplished or proved?

Only 1 of the players out injured played much and he wasn't exactly great either.

Also, JQ was always a question mark. So that's not even a possible excuse.

We spent 22 million a year after having injuries to several players. Was that not considered by the staff?

It's awful. Anyone defending it either a troll or Helen Keller.

 

[Anony Moose]

i dont want first option collin chandler or trent noah, what are we doing bro

What else do you have?

 

[Chaisey]

Get it boyyyyzzz!!!

Them touching that college money will be the last money tgey touch if they dont put the work in!

 

[Hoskins91_rivals]

Yet you are the one saying "white boys.'
Perhaps a little more self reflection and a lot less projection is in order? Just a thought.

When the two names they say over and over again are the two white guys…Not like this fanbase has a history of that…

 

[BigBluefoot]

When the two names they say over and over again are the two white guys…Not like this fanbase has a history of that…

You have the self awareness of a hamster.

 

[Anony Moose]

@kyjeff1

Want to re-examine your thoughts on Noah?

 

[kyjeff1]

@kyjeff1

Want to re-examine your thoughts on Noah?

Huh? He was a nice complimentary player, but I'm surprised you're showing your face, Oweh 0wned this game, he shut Acuff down and scored over 20.

Honestly, I'm stunned Arkansas never imposed their will. They have a lot of talent and they never took advantage of their mismatches.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Huh? He was a nice complimentary player, but I'm durprised you're showing your face, Oweh 0wned this game, he shut Acuff down and scored over 20.

Honestly, I'm stunned Arkansas never imposed their will. They have a lot of talent and they never took advantage of their mismatches.

Yeah Oweh needs mad props.

 

[Smeegs]

@kyjeff1

Want to re-examine your thoughts on Noah?

It’s completely bizarre that you think this game supported your argument …which, as I recall, was that Oweh should play less so that Noah can play more.

I mean, did you not see Oweh tonight? He was very clearly the best player on the floor on BOTH the offensive and defensive ends. Don’t get me wrong, Noah had a nice game too. …he had one field goal, got some big boards, and hit some big free throws. But anyone who thinks this game supports the argument that Oweh should play less is stupider than stupid can possibly get.

 

[kyjeff1]

Yeah Oweh needs mad props.

Like I said, Oweh is one of 3 guys that can carry this team and he has done it way more times than anyone else.
Moreno and DA CAN do it, but they can't do it as often as Oweh does.
This is why you don't ever bench Oweh this season.
But, props to Noah too, he did play really well.
Johnson? No, he needs to work hard over the summer.

 

[Anony Moose]

Huh? He was a nice complimentary player, but I'm durprised you're showing your face, Oweh 0wned this game, he shut Acuff down and scored over 20.

Honestly, I'm stunned Arkansas never imposed their will. They have a lot of talent and they never took advantage of their mismatches.

Because Oweh was used appropriately and we utilized him exactly the way I have been saying.

Noah bitched slapped you for me. He was exactly what I have been saying he could be and what we needed. Magically, he does that and we have our most impressive win of the season.

Being right never gets old.

 

[kyjeff1]

Because Oweh was used appropriately and we utilized him exactly the way I have been saying.

Noah bitched slapped you for me. He was exactly what I have been saying he could be and what we needed. Magically, he does that and we have our most impressive win of the season.

Being right never gets old.

WTF? You've been clamoring for Oweh to lose minutes because he was a team cancer. Don't change your tune now. Own what you said.

Noah had a good game, but he isn't capable of holding Oweh's jock.

 

[Anony Moose]

WTF? You've been clamoring for Oweh to lose minutes because he was a team cancer. Don't change your tune now. Own what you said.

Noah had a good game, but he isn't capable of holding Oweh's jock.

I've been saying he needs his role reduced. I believed that would mean less minutes. Tonight he shot 75% from the floor and only took 12 shots instead of the nearly 20 he had been averaging. However, Noah and Chandler (Williams pre injury) playing more and getting the wasted possessions away from Oweh wad the goal. We did it tonight and it resulted in a great win, exactly as I have been saying it would. Now we will see if it continues.

 

[kyjeff1]

I've been saying he needs his role reduced. I believed that would mean less minutes. Tonight he shot 75% from the floor and only took 12 shots instead of the nearly 20 he had been averaging. However, Noah and Chandler (Williams pre injury) playing more and getting the wasted possessions away from Oweh wad the goal. We did it tonight and it resulted in a great win, exactly as I have been saying it would. Now we will see if it continues.

Whatever man, you're moving your own goalposts.

The bottom line is the team and coaching staff are the most inconsistent any of us have ever seen. We have no idea what team is going to show up from game to game and since Oweh is the leader, guys like you put all the blame on him.

Oweh has been frustrated all year, because the pieces don't fit and the coaches can't reach them, or motivate them.

They played together tonight and actually acted like they liked each other. They need to sustain this.

But Noah is playing in place of Kam, not Oweh.