In less than 5 years Indiana went from getting crushed by Rutgers, and 0-9 in the Big Ten, to
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Elite QB and receiver play. Very good OL and solid RB’s.
IU Defense excelled despite not having a potent edge rusher. Miami has an elite EDGE and he was a huge problem all game.
IU Defense excelled despite not having a potent edge rusher. Miami has an elite EDGE and he was a huge problem all game.
Indiana's OC Shanahan made 800k last year and 1.15m this year
Sarat had 15 TDs and Cooper had 13 TDs on 1767 combined yds
Duff had 7 TDs and Strong 5 TDs on total of 1846 yds
There's no reason Duff and Strong should be meager on TDs.
Its the weird offense
Sarat had 15 TDs and Cooper had 13 TDs on 1767 combined yds
Duff had 7 TDs and Strong 5 TDs on total of 1846 yds
There's no reason Duff and Strong should be meager on TDs.
Its the weird offense
I was not aware that IU's OL coach was Bob Bostad, who built multiple great offensive lines at Wisconsin. He's one of the best OL coaches out there.
People around here will call you DEMENTED and a SICKO if you say stuff like that.
Or they'll say RU needs a fieldhouse and more expensive parking. Not better coaches.
It's because you need $. You could have Nick Saban coach Rutgers for the next decade and you would make 4 or 5 very low level bowls. That is because Nick Saban without $ is not going to win anything.
People here are now saying that “Indiana 3 Stars are really 4 stars because they came in as college transfers.” Those college transfers still beat all those legit MaxPrep/ Rivals 4/5 Stars and Million Dollar 5 Star Transfers at Alabama, Oregon, and Miami. People will have to eventually have to say that Indiana coaches are flat out better at their job than those three Big Time Programs with the DEEEEEPPPP pockets in 2026.
BTW, it doesn’t mean that you will win if you spend $4 on one player.
CARSON BECK IS EXHIBIT A.
But they did win. They went from completely irrelevant to the national championship game.
His point it wasn’t ONLY about spending money! **** we had two too 5 NBA lottery picks and we couldn’t even make the NIT.
More to it than just talent and $$
Three of Indiana’s projected NFL draft picks came over from JMU.
Best coaching job in the history of college football IMO.
Best coaching job in the history of college football IMO.
OKaayyy… Is there a script that they were supposed to follow and lose? Everyone else spent money on their transfers and they were garbage.
It’s not their fault that best thing Carson Beck did at Miami was hook up with a porn star.
Proves that you don’t need a 3 year plan, a 5 year plan, or what everyone here is arguing over: The Schiano 20 Year Plan.
Correct!
it’s all about talent evaluation..Cigs preferred production over potential.
also noteworthy is that even Cuban said the $$ wasn’t going to be spent on bidding wars for a top player.
And last but not least those “productive” players all had college experience where the average age was 23 across the team. Experience matters!
going back to the bball team it’s why a team of takentwd reshman can get beat by grown men
Look at our transfer list and look at IUs. Get real people. We need to find a Mark Cuban to make real changes.
Like that worked for Oregon, Miami, Alabama, and all the programs with the Sugar Daddies
You don't need a plan; you need money. We don't have any money.
Money alone isn't enough; it has to be spent wisely. No one is going to give a program money unless the donor believes the money will be spent well. The program has to bootstrap itself -- show that it has the kind of potential that would convince a donor to invest in it. It's no different from business; no one is going to invest venture capital without confidence that the investment will prove to be a good one.
What point are you trying to make here? There’s only one team that wins the championship. A prerequisite to being in the hunt for that title is an unlimited supply of money. Not every team that has money will win the championship, but the team that does win it no doubt will always be a team that did not face financial obstacles when building their roster. It’s apples and oranges to compare our current situation to this. That doesn’t mean Indiana doesn’t have a great coaching staff but their staff would not win a title on what our budget was for 2025-26 either. Nobody would.
Nick Saban is gonna win wherever he goes in college football. Because if you get a real coach $$$$ will follow
You need a coach first, the top 4 NIL schools was Texas, O State, Georgia and LSU. I didn't see these teams in the final four
No he didn’t. Run game with Fletcher, 17 YO Freshman WR, and their defense took them to the NC Game.
I’LL bet Nick Saban would get those Jersey Billionaires and Business to donate money for that Fieldhouse at the least.
He might get some Rutgers Football Alum to stop by to visit or even put some money down towards the football program like Miami FB alums do.
I think that GS did a good job with the portal based on what he had to spend. Retained a couple of key players and added guys who I think will improve the roster. There is no sense spending a lot on one player if you can't get anybody else. I think the roster right now is better than it was at the end on the season. Just have to hope the coaches can bring it all together and overachieve a little and not lose to any equal or lesser teams on the schedule. Spring ball is going to tell a lot. I think it is a 6-7 win team.
It's something of a chicken-and-egg problem; Nick Saban isn't going to come to a school unless there's money there in the first place. But that money isn't going to be there unless the team shows potential even before Nick Saban gets there. What a school needs to do is to do what Indiana did -- bet on a coach who's something of an unknown (who was to know whether he could carry his success at JMU over to a larger school) and who turns out to be excellent.
Saban isn’t going anywhere that doesn’t have all the money in-place already. That goes for all the top coaches. No one good is coming to help you fundraise.
You could stop at Saban isn't going anywhere. He's done coaching. He has said so numerous times.
I'm curious on what your solution to our stuck in mediocrity mode might be:
(1) Stick with Schiano and hope for the best;
(2) Change coaches, and if so, when.
A team of poorly coached talented freshmen will always get beat by a team of well coached grown men.
Saban is in a partnership with Joe Agresti, a New Jersey born executive who is the CEO of a chain of luxury car dealers. I believe he donated to the Alabama football program when Saban was the coach there.
RU got transfers from the same talent pool as Indiana. Their transfers excelled, particularly on defense. RU's did not, in large part because of poor coaching.
All those teams spent more than Indiana did. 2 of them got squashed like bugs when they played Indiana.
If Saban coached RU for the next decade, it's almost a guarantee that he would have a better record than Schiano has put together.