OT: Spring Warmth, 3/5-3/12+? Winter 2025-26 - Patterns and Potential Winter Storms

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Gotta admit to being a bit jealous Here in Bend (OR) we're on our sixth day of freezing fog, which actually deposited a very thin layer of light snow/frost that could be shoveled. Ski areas are one the verge of closing. Guess I should enjoy it but I cannot. What supplies have you stocked up on for the big storm?
 
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RU848789

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its not petty since you said that we might not get over 32 for 2 weeks and we were 33 in alot of places on Monday and above freezzing yesterday with highs called in mid 40s for Thursday...petty is you saying knightshift would be lucky to get out of the 30s. Instead of leaving my comment alone you tried to downplay the idea of a warm Thursday..in fact we are overperforming right now bigly...53 the highest in NJ and im at 47. if you were concerned with petty or not you never would have been petty in the first place
No, saying KS might not get out of the 30s was what I thought based on forecasts I saw at that time, but that's why I said might, which isn't petty. Petty is nitpicking one day out of a slew of cold days to show I was wrong on that one day, which is largely immaterial. I'm sure you'll find the one day over 20F next week and come back and remind me I said it likely wouldn't go above 20F. I could do that kind of thing with your wrong posts all day, but it's not worth my time and I'm just not that petty. But you do you. Which is petty.
 

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No, saying KS might not get out of the 30s was what I thought based on forecasts I saw at that time, but that's why I said might, which isn't petty. Petty is nitpicking one day out of a slew of cold days to show I was wrong on that one day, which is largely immaterial. I'm sure you'll find the one day over 20F next week and come back and remind me I said it likely wouldn't go above 20F. I could do that kind of thing with your wrong posts all day, but it's not worth my time and I'm just not that petty. But you do you. Which is petty.
I have no memory of all this, and if anyone should care, it would be me, and I don't care. Let it go already! However, since you are concerned for the warmth I may or may not have been expected to see, I'm happy to be mixed up in this, like Navin Johnson.


 
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No, saying KS might not get out of the 30s was what I thought based on forecasts I saw at that time, but that's why I said might, which isn't petty. Petty is nitpicking one day out of a slew of cold days to show I was wrong on that one day, which is largely immaterial. I'm sure you'll find the one day over 20F next week and come back and remind me I said it likely wouldn't go above 20F. I could do that kind of thing with your wrong posts all day, but it's not worth my time and I'm just not that petty. But you do you. Which is petty.
And definitely petty for him to just drop into this thread to post a “gotcha” comment. Some folks on here make it seem like we’re back in high school. Geez - grow up: life is too short to get upset about weather forecasting…
 

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And definitely petty for him to just drop into this thread to post a “gotcha” comment. Some folks on here make it seem like we’re back in high school. Geez - grow up: life is too short to get upset about weather forecasting…
if you actually go back a few pages, numbers said it might not get over 32...i came back and posted mid 40s or 47 for Thursday, he came back instead of letting that go and put in a few post saying it will not get that warm and lucky to get out of the 30s....so who is being petty., I am only coming back to the scene of the crime when he argued with me

him responding back seems petty as well and you responding seems with a dig seems just as petty you tell people to grow up but yet here you are actually commenting on it

everyone is a big boy here. they can respond or not respond and not act like victims...its not cosplay
 

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if you actually go back a few pages, numbers said it might not get over 32...i came back and posted mid 40s or 47 for Thursday, he came back instead of letting that go and put in a few post saying it will not get that warm and lucky to get out of the 30s....so who is being petty., I am only coming back to the scene of the crime when he argued with me

him responding back seems petty as well and you responding seems with a dig seems just as petty you tell people to grow up but yet here you are actually commenting on it

everyone is a big boy here. they can respond or not respond and not act like victims...its not cosplay
Here's the thing though - No one gives a F' about the stuff you are arguing about. Its just annoying back and forth nonsense that clutters up these threads. I actually think it is good having two separate threads. Both are good and add value. Just stay out of each others and the world will be a better place for everyone
 

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Max Velocity shows a slight move south for the ice line in the latest run

 

RU848789

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I have no memory of all this, and if anyone should care, it would be me, and I don't care. Let it go already! However, since you are concerned for the warmth I may or may not have been expected to see, I'm happy to be mixed up in this, like Navin Johnson.


Et tu Knight Shift? He jumped back to this thread days later to pull a petty gotcha moment. I could have done that 10 times over last weekend's snow which he downplayed the whole time, but I didn't. And you're telling me to let it go when he's the one who brought it back up? And folks wonder how these threads get derailed so easily. I've ignored about a dozen other troll attempts.
 

RU848789

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No huge changes at 6Z or 12Z, really. The ICON got sleety (half snow/half sleet for most), but the CMC got a bit less sleety and the GFS got a bit snowier, while the UK held serve, as did the AIGFS, Euro-AIFS and Euro, for the most part. And the long range mesoscale models, NAM and RGEM and RRFSA didn't show anything earth shatteringly different, plus they're way beyond their useful range. I don't see anyone changing their forecasts based on 12Z right now, so folks who were low (those showing 6-10" for example) will likely stay low and the cowboys at the NWS (8-12" min and 20+" max) and TWC (12-18" area wide, except less at the coast south of Toms River) will likely stay high. Not going to do the model bullet points (no time today). Also, the new NBM is still showing an area-wide 12-18", which still surprises me a bit (I think it's too high). The NWS did issue their first map, which only goes through 7 am and it looks solid to me; I'm also including, again the low and high cases from the NWS (10% probability of each) for completeness.

Personally, my gut tells me to to go with 8-12" area wide this early in the game, but noting that 12-18" (with good ratios) is on the table if no mixing/changeover, but so is a change to sleet and maybe freezing rain for most, at least up to 78 or maybe 80, and that would keep depth under 12" (although it would be the same mass as 12-18" of good ratio snow), which is the 10% chance low case from the NWS (8-12"), since the front end thump will very likely deliver at least 6" of 10:1 snow for all before any changeover and that's 8-9" at 13-15:1 ratio, which is what most models are showing. Of course the models could still change towards more sleet/ZR so most don't get the "floor" of 8" (maybe just 4-8" snow/sleet) except way NW or they could follow the NBM and a few of the non-sleety models and move towards 12-18" for most. Obviously, at some point one would need to make a choice and have one prediction, but I don't see why that has to be 60 hours before the start of the event (I'd wait until 4 am tomorrow, 48 hrs before the event). Plenty of time to iron out the forecast.

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Been out all afternoon and it's poker night, so just have a few minutes. NWS surprisingly posted a total snowfall map, below, which is kind of what I expected as it's a bit above the 8-12" "floor" they posted this morning, with a general 12-18" for almost everyone (very similar to the NBM modle blend), but the graphic with the circled area (95 corridor in PA/NJ up to northern Middlesex Co. and through to the coast) has the comment that sleet and freezing rain will hold totals down in that area, presumably to 8-12", like for far SNJ - not sure why they simply didn't lower the amounts, which I think are too high: too many models have sleet for the circled area (not all), holding snow down to more like 8-14" (with good ratios).

Also, FWIW below are the snow forecasts from Lee Goldberg/AccuWeather (I agree with this one), TWC (also good - they backed off their 12-18" area-wide and now only have that for areas well N/W, which are least likely to changeover) and News12 (too low, IMO - just don't see anyone not getting at least 6-7" in the front end thump even those in SNJ who will changeover first). Long way to go thought. Gotta run. Play nicely.



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Here's the thing though - No one gives a F' about the stuff you are arguing about. Its just annoying back and forth nonsense that clutters up these threads. I actually think it is good having two separate threads. Both are good and add value. Just stay out of each others and the world will be a better place for everyone
Here here!

bac2therac and the posters who compete to see who is the biggest suck-suck up to him, have made weather posts unbearable. He has literally sucked the life out of these posts, and I wish he would stay in his own little world I. The post he created.

He is a child and can’t hold a candle to bac’s weather knowledge.

it’s been so much better without him.
 

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if you actually go back a few pages, numbers said it might not get over 32...i came back and posted mid 40s or 47 for Thursday, he came back instead of letting that go and put in a few post saying it will not get that warm and lucky to get out of the 30s....so who is being petty., I am only coming back to the scene of the crime when he argued with me

him responding back seems petty as well and you responding seems with a dig seems just as petty you tell people to grow up but yet here you are actually commenting on it

everyone is a big boy here. they can respond or not respond and not act like victims...its not cosplay
Silly, pointless argumentative crap like this is why I generally avoid social media - seems to bring out the worst in many people. I’d rather just stick to respectful, discussion on the pending storm - seems too much for some here so I’ll just ignore.
 
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RU848789

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Just got back from poker night and got caught up and I'm pretty happy with the 0Z models. Would love for the GFS or AIFS/AIGFS to be right and give most of CNJ and the 95 corridor from Philly to NYC and the coast and my house almost all snow with very little sleet/ZR, like the NBM is showing with 12-18" of snow for everyone, but we've seen too many times when the WAA is undermodeled and with most other models showing 25-40% of the QPF (liquid precip basis) falling as sleet, mostly, with a bit of freezing rain (ZR) it seems quite possible most of our area could get about 33% as sleet/ZR. Here's some thoughts for how to look at that given that I still think mets need to find a way to report total frozen mass in mixed precip events as frozen mass is much better correlated to impacts than simple depth.

If we take the rough average of QPF across the models, which range from 0.9-1.5" for CNJ, that's 1.2" as QPF and if we assume 66% of it is snow, that's 0.8" QPF as snow and 0.4" QPF as sleet/ZR, so let's say that's 0.3" as sleet and 0.1" as ZR. At 13:1 snow:liquid ratio (the rough ratio seen on the NBM through 7 pm Monday when many models switch to sleet), the 0.8" QPF as snow is 10.4" of 13:1 snow, the 0.3" of QPF as sleet is 0.9" of sleet for a total depth of 11.3" and the 0.1" of QPF as ZR has no depth as it's just absorbed into the snow/sleet pack although some compaction and freezing will occur, especially near the top.

Bottom line this could end up having 10" of depth after compaction containing 1.2" of QPF which has a top several inches being frozen solid with surface temps in the mid/upper 20s. This is a friggin' mess to drive in, walk on, plow, shovel, etc., and likely worse than dealing with that same 1.2" QPF of frozen mass as pure 15:1 snow or 18" of depth. Won't be nearly as pretty as pure snow (and I love pretty snow), but will be as or more impactful. And if there's more like 50% of the 1.2" QPF as snow (7.8" at 13:1) and 50% of the QPF as sleet and no ZR (2" of sleet at 3:1), that's 9.8" of depth and keep in mind that sleet melts much more slowly than snow as it has a far lower exposed surface area per unit volume. But many will look at the NWS forecasts of 12-16" of snow and look at the 10" of snow/sleet/ZR on their lawns and call the forecast a bust, when in reality both are similarly impactful

Anyway this is a long path to my posting DT/WxRisk's first guess map, as I think it's the best one I've seen and I'd say I'm very aligned with it, as it has most of CNJ and 95 from Philly to NYC in the 8-12" of snow swath and noting that much of that area would also be receiving sleet; he doesn't specify how much sleet, but it's part of the 8-12" of "snow" and could very well be like my example above of ~11.3" of snow/sleet depth, compacting to ~10" after ZR, containing 1.2" QPF (7.8" of 13:1 snow + 2" of 3:1 sleet and 0.1" of ZR). I also like his 12-18" area with no sleet beginning around 78, which is a good guess. I might have his light blue area with a changeover to sleet/ZR all the way up to 78, though.

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The new NWS maps and discussion aren't up yet, but they did update their winter storm watches, below, which essentially have 12-17" of snow (and some sleet and up to 0.1" of ZR) for the counties N of 276/195 in PA/NJ (and Ocean), while they have 8-15" of snow and sleet with up to 0.25" of freezing rain for the counties S of 276/195 in SE PA/SNJ and DE. This is more realistic and in-line with my post above on DT's forecast.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
127 AM EST Fri Jan 23 2026

New Castle-Kent-Inland Sussex-Delaware Beaches-Kent MD-Queen
Annes-Talbot-Caroline-Salem-Gloucester-Camden-Northwestern
Burlington-Cumberland-Atlantic-Cape May-Atlantic Coastal Cape May-
Coastal Atlantic-Southeastern Burlington-Delaware-Philadelphia-
Western Chester-Eastern Chester-Eastern Montgomery-

...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY EVENING
THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON...

* WHAT...Heavy mixed precipitation possible. Total snow
accumulations between 8 and 15 inches and ice accumulations up to
one quarter of an inch possible.


URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
127 AM EST Fri Jan 23 2026

Sussex-Warren-Morris-Hunterdon-Somerset-Middlesex-Western
Monmouth-Eastern Monmouth-Mercer-Ocean-Coastal Ocean-Carbon-
Monroe-Berks-Lehigh-Northampton-Western Montgomery-Upper Bucks-
Lower Bucks-

...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM LATE SATURDAY NIGHT
THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON...

* WHAT...Heavy snow with mixed precipitation possible. Total snow
accumulations between 12 and 17 inches and ice accumulations
around one tenth of an inch possible.
 

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I am surprised to see sleet and freezing rain in the forecast coinciding with high temps in the 20s
 
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Updated NWS map
I'm expecting these numbers to decrease greatly the closer we get to the storm. It wouldn't surprise me is my area in Mercer got 4-6" at best. More and more models are starting to show mixing.

 
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Here's the thing though - No one gives a F' about the stuff you are arguing about. Its just annoying back and forth nonsense that clutters up these threads. I actually think it is good having two separate threads. Both are good and add value. Just stay out of each others and the world will be a better place for everyone
Nah, it just never gets old:

 

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Looks like Numbers and Bac.

if you actually go back a few pages, numbers said it might not get over 32...i came back and posted mid 40s or 47 for Thursday, he came back instead of letting that go and put in a few post saying it will not get that warm and lucky to get out of the 30s....so who is being petty., I am only coming back to the scene of the crime when he argued with me

him responding back seems petty as well and you responding seems with a dig seems just as petty you tell people to grow up but yet here you are actually commenting on it

everyone is a big boy here. they can respond or not respond and not act like victims...its not cosplay

Like it or not, what you and numbers do on this board in creating/posting weather threads is exactly cosplaying as competing weathermen.
 

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Just got back from poker night and got caught up and I'm pretty happy with the 0Z models. Would love for the GFS or AIFS/AIGFS to be right and give most of CNJ and the 95 corridor from Philly to NYC and the coast and my house almost all snow with very little sleet/ZR, like the NBM is showing with 12-18" of snow for everyone, but we've seen too many times when the WAA is undermodeled and with most other models showing 25-40% of the QPF (liquid precip basis) falling as sleet, mostly, with a bit of freezing rain (ZR) it seems quite possible most of our area could get about 33% as sleet/ZR. Here's some thoughts for how to look at that given that I still think mets need to find a way to report total frozen mass in mixed precip events as frozen mass is much better correlated to impacts than simple depth.

If we take the rough average of QPF across the models, which range from 0.9-1.5" for CNJ, that's 1.2" as QPF and if we assume 66% of it is snow, that's 0.8" QPF as snow and 0.4" QPF as sleet/ZR, so let's say that's 0.3" as sleet and 0.1" as ZR. At 13:1 snow:liquid ratio (the rough ratio seen on the NBM through 7 pm Monday when many models switch to sleet), the 0.8" QPF as snow is 10.4" of 13:1 snow, the 0.3" of QPF as sleet is 0.9" of sleet for a total depth of 11.3" and the 0.1" of QPF as ZR has no depth as it's just absorbed into the snow/sleet pack although some compaction and freezing will occur, especially near the top.

Bottom line this could end up having 10" of depth after compaction containing 1.2" of QPF which has a top several inches being frozen solid with surface temps in the mid/upper 20s. This is a friggin' mess to drive in, walk on, plow, shovel, etc., and likely worse than dealing with that same 1.2" QPF of frozen mass as pure 15:1 snow or 18" of depth. Won't be nearly as pretty as pure snow (and I love pretty snow), but will be as or more impactful. And if there's more like 50% of the 1.2" QPF as snow (7.8" at 13:1) and 50% of the QPF as sleet and no ZR (2" of sleet at 3:1), that's 9.8" of depth and keep in mind that sleet melts much more slowly than snow as it has a far lower exposed surface area per unit volume. But many will look at the NWS forecasts of 12-16" of snow and look at the 10" of snow/sleet/ZR on their lawns and call the forecast a bust, when in reality both are similarly impactful

Anyway this is a long path to my posting DT/WxRisk's first guess map, as I think it's the best one I've seen and I'd say I'm very aligned with it, as it has most of CNJ and 95 from Philly to NYC in the 8-12" of snow swath and noting that much of that area would also be receiving sleet; he doesn't specify how much sleet, but it's part of the 8-12" of "snow" and could very well be like my example above of ~11.3" of snow/sleet depth, compacting to ~10" after ZR, containing 1.2" QPF (7.8" of 13:1 snow + 2" of 3:1 sleet and 0.1" of ZR). I also like his 12-18" area with no sleet beginning around 78, which is a good guess. I might have his light blue area with a changeover to sleet/ZR all the way up to 78, though.

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The NWS-Philly maps came out a few hours ago and match the watches and discussion now, with 12-18" for the vast majority of the region, although with amounts close to 12" for areas south of 78, and amounts over 15" for most areas N of 78 (less mixing/changeover there); and they finally at least lowered the amounts for Dover to Toms River and south of there to 8-12" with more significant changeover sleet/freezing rain amounts. The freezing rain map shows that, with 0.1-0.25" of freezing rain along/near 95 all the way up to about NB, which would be serious issue on top of the snow/sleet (so don't shovel all of your snow if you expect ZR - leave snow to absorb the ZR so it won't form a glaze on your paved surfaces and shovel right after the ZR is done) and up to 0.1" for a larger area outside of 95; the NWS-NYC has no freezing rain in its forecast.

Also included the NWS-NYC snowmap which is a bit less bullish than Philly's, especially in their watch wordring, where they're going with 8-14" of snow/sleet for their whole area (NENJ/NYC/LI/S-CT/Hudson Valley) vs. NWS-Philly's watches which are for 12-17" north of 276/195 (although they note this is closer to 12" south of 78, as I just said above) and 8-15" south of 276/195 due to much more mixing/changeover. I think the NWS-Philly's watch should've been for 8-14" also, N of 78. And overall, I still think DT's map (quoted post) is better as I like the 8-12" basically south of 78, with 4-8" SE of a Wilmington to Pt. Pleasant line, and 12-16" N of 78.

Finally, the 6Z model runs continue to show fairly consistent precip amounts of 1-1.5", roughly, but show significant variations in snow/sleet/freezing rain amounts with the Euro-AIFS (best model), GFS, UK, ICON and AIGFS showing little mixing/changeover to sleet/ZR north of 276/195 (just at the end after 90% of the precip is done), while the CMC/RDPS shows some changeover to sleet and the NAM/Euro show more substantial changeover to sleet and ZR all the way up to 78 (1/3-1/2 the precip falling as mostly sleet with some ZR).

The NWS seems to be mostly ignoring those models, which I don't think is a good idea, as they often do well in warm air advection aloft situations, which lead to sleet/ZR. Still time to work out the forecast, but unless the sleetier models back off on that changeover, this will likely be a real-time radar/observation watching event to see how far north that line moves and after what % of the precip has fallen as snow. However, their discussion below takes sleet/ZR amounts into account more than the maps do, so worth a read.

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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
547 AM EST Fri Jan 23 2026

As synoptic scale ascent overspreads the region, precipitation
will begin overspreading the region from southwest to northeast
overnight Saturday night. Very cold temperatures will be in
place at the surface and throughout the vertical column.
Therefore, precipitation is expected to begin as all snow. As
the column moistens towards daybreak Sunday, snow will likely
become moderate to heavy at times.

Strong warm air advection aloft will likely start to lead to
the development of a warm nose during the day on Sunday near 750
mb, and snow may mix with or change to sleet and freezing rain.
Of particular concern is a corridor roughly from the Eastern
Shore of Maryland northeastward along the I-95 corridor. Sleet
and freezing rain may reduce snow totals, but will create their
own problems, with freezing rain in particular leading to the
potential for damage to trees and powerlines. In addition to the
mixed precipitation concerns for these areas, as the surface
low develops off the Eastern Seaboard and tracks northeastward,
marine influence is likely to be felt across portions of the
Coastal Plain. This may lead to precipitation mixing with or
changing to plain rain for this area. This is not expected to
occur until during the day on Sunday, so substantial snow
accumulations are still anticipated for these areas prior to any
potential changeover.

The areal extent of potential mixing remains in question, and
tied in large part to the exact track of the coastal low. With
that said, guidance continues to support the idea of a low track
close enough to the coast to lead to at least some mixing for a
large portion of the area, potentially as far north as the I-78
corridor. North of I- 78, the anticipation is still for an all
snow event. Sunday night through early Monday morning, as the
low begins to pull away and cold air from the northwest begins
to filter back in, precipitation should change back to all snow
for most of the area with additional accumulations likely.
Breezy northeast winds on Sunday and northwest winds on Monday
could lead to some minor blowing and drifting of snow,
especially where mixing does not occur and where snow-to- liquid
ratios are highest.

All-told, snow amounts around 12-15" appear likely across all
of eastern PA and northern NJ. Higher amounts (potentially
exceeding 18") are expected across the Poconos and into adjacent
areas of far northwestern NJ. For the lower Delmarva into much
of southeastern NJ, 6-12" of snow are expected, with mixing
limiting totals more in those areas. Right now, ice accretion of
generally 0.10-0.25" is expected along the I-95 corridor.
Amounts exceeding 0.25" are possible for portions of the Eastern
Shore of Maryland. Further refinements will likely be needed in
future updates as the event draws closer.
 
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How confident should I feel about NJ Transit from Basking Ridge to NY on Sunday? Going in at 10am and returning on the 4pm train?
 

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I'm expecting these numbers to decrease greatly the closer we get to the storm. It wouldn't surprise me is my area in Mercer got 4-6" at best. More and more models are starting to show mixing.

Actually only the NAM shows a lot of mixing and most of the models at 6Z got a bit snowier/less sleety. Even the Euro which is the sleetiest of the global models, still has 6-8" of 10:1 snow falling for all of CNJ and for Philly/adjacent SNJ too (except far southern areas) and at about a 13:1 ratio, that's 8-10" of snow before the sleet. If the non-sleety models are correct (AIFS, AIGFS, UK, ICON, UK) most of our region would get 8-12" of 10:1 snow (10-16" of 13:1 snow) before a very late change to sleet after 90% of the precip has fallen. I simply can't imagine you not getting at least 6-8" of snow before any sleet as every model shows the front end snow thump.
 

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When they constructed Route 78 did they consult with the NWS to know where the snow line is? Or did laying the interstate affect weather patterns?

With my wife and I living about 1/2 mile north of 78 and daughter and her family living one town away and about 1 mile south of 78 it’s interesting to see that we always have different snow total forecasts. Even though we get the same amount of snow almost every storm.
 

RU848789

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How confident should I feel about NJ Transit from Basking Ridge to NY on Sunday? Going in at 10am and returning on the 4pm train?
How much would you like to be stuck in a stranded train in 10F weather with howling winds/snow outside? I wouldn't even think of it and I love snow - can you go in Sat night and get a hotel room - NYC is awesome in the snow. Also if you're going to a show of some sort, it could get cancelled.
 
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It's crazy that the NWS map is showing 16 inches for me in the red bank/long branch area. And my Apple weather app is showing 2-3 inches for the same area.

it makes it pretty hard to prepare not knowing which direction this will/could go.
Your app sucks, but the NWS is likely a bit high on snow, but not on total frozen mass. Red Bank and almost everyone should get at least 6-8" in the initial thump of snow which every model shows; question is if it continues to snow for a few hours after that getting you to 12" or more or if it changes to sleet and gives you 1-2" sleet on top of that snow (same frozen mass though). This is a serious storm even for folks who "only" get half snow, half sleet (and maybe some freezing rain).
 
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For folks curious about one of the most impactful winter storms this country will ever see, here are the snow and freezing rain (ZR) maps for the US from the NBM (model blend). A foot+ of snow from Texas to Maine is insane and crippling 1"+ ice storms south of that snow for many.

See the NWS threat/warning/watch map, too; the winter storm warnings (mostly for snow) are in pink with advisories in light blue and winter storm watches in blue-grey (including for the whole NEUS, which isn't shown - they're showing the cold weather advisory which is for now), while the ice storm warnings are in purple; the blue for the northern states is for extreme cold. Figured this deserved not being buried in one of my long-winded posts for our area, lol.

https://www.weather.gov/

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For folks curious about one of the most impactful winter storms this country will ever see, here are the snow and freezing rain (ZR) maps for the US from the NBM (model blend). A foot+ of snow from Texas to Maine is insane and crippling 1"+ ice storms south of that snow for many may be even more impactful. See the NWS warning/watch map, too; the winter storm warnings (mostly for snow) are in pink with advisories in light blue and winter storm watches in blue-grey (including for the whole NEUS, which isn't shown - they're showing the cold weather advisory which is for now), while the ice storm warnings are in purple; the blue for the northern states is for extreme cold. The Times article on this ginormous and dangerous, nearly nationwide winter storm linked below is excellent.

Also, if you look at the post from 3 days ago with these same maps, you can see how much further south the big swaths of snow and ice were. Tthey’ve moved northward about 150 miles, as the modeling and the actual system have evolved, but that’s not an unusual track forecast error that far out. But I’m sure it’s disappointing for the folks who are snow lovers who thought they were getting a foot of snow and who will now likely be getting up to 1” of ice. Figured this deserved not being buried in one of my long-winded posts for our area, lol.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/22/...4122&user_id=3f7a7d00850ad922736b3173646a296d

https://www.weather.gov/
 
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