What could Pope possibly know? I bet he hasn’t even read the reports like you have. He needs to acting like he knows more and is more connected than Jacob Pollacheck!
Mark Pope glazes JMI and Mitch
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I think it’s a combination of both.
There was a very level headed dude in here that politely told us time and again that JMI was none of the problem.
It was just 2 months ago that Travis Branham had Kentucky favorited to land Stokes and Holt. What happened so quickly to turn these recruitments?!
What’s the problem? No matter how many times you ask these frauds, they will never answer. Seriously problem that’s supposedly ruining UK basketball but not a single one of them, and there are hundreds, will say what the problem is.
The reports boss the reports.
Christian Collins stated that his recruitment to UK stalled because of JMI's restrictive NIL structure. Particularly because it contrasts with other schools like USC which offers more freedom to pursue additional deals outside of the original deal. He also stated that JMI limits his outside branding and facilities use without approval and puts UK at a disadvantage. Collins, Stokes, and Holt's camps have each stated that JMI has even asked recruits for their desired NIL compensation rather than offering a concrete number and frustrating those in their camps.
I guess Collins is a liar and has no idea what he is talking about. You want people to say what the problem is, Collins and his camp did. Now prove him wrong. Anything else you say is deflecting, a personal attack, or denial. Step up to the plate big boy, the ball's in your court.
I guess Collins is a liar and has no idea what he is talking about. You want people to say what the problem is, Collins and his camp did. Now prove him wrong. Anything else you say is deflecting, a personal attack, or denial. Step up to the plate big boy, the ball's in your court.
How bad is it behind the scenes? What’s going on so we can bring attention to to the specific problem?
I’ll never post here again if you can post a link of Christian Collins saying his recruitment to UK stalled because of JMI’s restrictive NIL structure. You can’t because you’re lying. That’s how important Matt Jones are to you weirdos, you make up lies and then believe them with your whole heart. You won’t find Christian Collins saying anything about facilities or limiting outside deals either.
The link will never come because not a single one of these pathetic losers can back up a word they say… ever. They just make a bunch of allegations and tell you to prove them wrong. You took claims from a Jacob Pollacheck KSR (It’s always KSR) story and attributed to Christian Collins. You’re all complete jokes. You go as far as completely making up lies to disparage your own program.
Y’all let me know when this fraud posts the link. Kidding, we all what a joke these liars are.
Imagine that, deflecting. Are you like a scorned Matt Jones ex lover? Jesus Christ. Not everyone on here likes Matt Jones, listens to Matt Jones, or cares about his ramblings. I certainly don't. He's a tool. Be right back with links pumpkin.
Christian Collins strikes his first NIL deal. For college, it gets more complicated.
"If you see me with a deal, I definitely made that decision," Collins says. And at some point, an NIL decision on Kentucky will have to be made.
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Inside Kentucky’s Recruiting Roadblocks: A Deep Dive into JMI, NIL, and Closing-Table Drama
KSR takes an inside look at Kentucky basketball's recruiting and the impact of JMI and Mark Pope's efforts.
Hell, type in Christian Collins NIL comments into Google and even AI thinks JMI sucks. lol
Deflecting? You lied, how am I deflecting when you just went and made up quotes from a player. I can’t answer your pathetic lies. I can just laugh at the joke you simpletons are. I’m laughing at how easy it is to control mindless sheep with a little propaganda. You’re invested in the lie that you made up a quote from Christian Collins that he didn’t even make.
There won’t be a link clown because you’re a
liar.
I love how easy it is to rile you up. You call everyone a liar, yet you've been proven wrong with every new account you create. You get butthurt and create a new one just to try again. It's hilarious poking the troll over and over and over and over. Different Anon name, same ******** comments.
"He's a liar Daddy, make him stop."
"The bad man Matt Jones touched my no no square and now I have sand in my ******."
"Mitch, they are picking on me again with articles, quotes and facts easily found on Google..."
"I deflect every time they say something true and call them liars but they won't believe me."
"Oh my God he posted multiple links citing Collins, his mother, and other anonymous sources that I can't refute so I have to try and personally attack them."
Making you look like a clown is the most fun I've had on the internet in quite a while. Keep it up. It's quite entertaining.
PS. This is where I ask you once more to post an actual fact, article, or link to JMI's contractual obligations for recruits that refutes what players, their families, and their camps are saying they don't like about UK's current NIL situation. But you won't, because you can't, because they don't exist. But, dang, the facts, articles and links to them saying what they don't like about it sure do exist. *Kisses
"He's a liar Daddy, make him stop."
"The bad man Matt Jones touched my no no square and now I have sand in my ******."
"Mitch, they are picking on me again with articles, quotes and facts easily found on Google..."
"I deflect every time they say something true and call them liars but they won't believe me."
"Oh my God he posted multiple links citing Collins, his mother, and other anonymous sources that I can't refute so I have to try and personally attack them."
Making you look like a clown is the most fun I've had on the internet in quite a while. Keep it up. It's quite entertaining.
PS. This is where I ask you once more to post an actual fact, article, or link to JMI's contractual obligations for recruits that refutes what players, their families, and their camps are saying they don't like about UK's current NIL situation. But you won't, because you can't, because they don't exist. But, dang, the facts, articles and links to them saying what they don't like about it sure do exist. *Kisses
Because Anon943222 is too busy posting on RR defending the JMI deal instead of restructuring it is my guess.
Christian Collins strikes his first NIL deal. For college, it gets more complicated.
"If you see me with a deal, I definitely made that decision," Collins says. And at some point, an NIL decision on Kentucky will have to be made.
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Inside Kentucky’s Recruiting Roadblocks: A Deep Dive into JMI, NIL, and Closing-Table Drama
KSR takes an inside look at Kentucky basketball's recruiting and the impact of JMI and Mark Pope's efforts.www.on3.com
Hell, type in Christian Collins NIL comments into Google and even AI thinks JMI sucks. lol
You were supposed to posting the Christian Collins quotes. You know the whole, “Christian Collins stated that his recruitment to UK stalled because of JMI's restrictive NIL structure. Particularly because it contrasts with other schools like USC which offers more freedom to pursue additional deals outside of the original deal. He also stated that JMI limits his outside branding and facilities use without approval and puts UK at a disadvantage.”
Weird that you can’t find this quote lying fraud.
I don’t know. Maybe I should just make up lies to fill in something that I dont know the answer to. I also don’t know why we didn’t get Andrew Wiggins, I was so excited about that recruitment and was thought to be lock. Maybe it was JMI.
You are a liar, you just lied about quotes Christian Collins didn’t make. You posted videos about people talking about JMI, because the link to him saying don’t exist. Like the rest of the lying trash, you’re too pathetic to back up a word you say.
Tell us you didn't read the articles or watch the videos without telling us you didn't read the articles or watch the videos... That last video is an hour long and I just posted it.
You are a liar, fake, a crybaby, and too stupid to read the articles that say Christian Collins was unhappy with the restrictions of the JMI deal IN PLAIN ENGLISH. Do you seriously have to work to be that dumb or does it come naturally? I'm convinced you are either a JMI troll, twelve years old, or a mental patient. You have to be. No sentient adult can be that useless.
Christian Collins' recruitment has been heavily influenced by Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) discussions, particularly involving Kentucky's corporate-based JMI NIL structure, which reportedly caused friction due to contractual language, flexibility, and communication issues, leading to stalls with UK and momentum shifting towards schools like USC, as players increasingly weigh NIL opportunities alongside traditional recruiting factors.
Key NIL-Related Points:
So AGAIN, please post the JMI contract details that every top 20 basketball recruit loves and is willing to crawl over broken glass to sign with UK for (As evidenced by our historic 5* recruiting haul for the upcoming season).
You are a liar, fake, a crybaby, and too stupid to read the articles that say Christian Collins was unhappy with the restrictions of the JMI deal IN PLAIN ENGLISH. Do you seriously have to work to be that dumb or does it come naturally? I'm convinced you are either a JMI troll, twelve years old, or a mental patient. You have to be. No sentient adult can be that useless.
Christian Collins' recruitment has been heavily influenced by Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) discussions, particularly involving Kentucky's corporate-based JMI NIL structure, which reportedly caused friction due to contractual language, flexibility, and communication issues, leading to stalls with UK and momentum shifting towards schools like USC, as players increasingly weigh NIL opportunities alongside traditional recruiting factors.
Key NIL-Related Points:
- Kentucky's JMI Structure: The main issue centered on Kentucky's JMI NIL framework, which manages deals and branding, with reports suggesting it creates less player freedom and financial clarity compared to other programs.
- Contractual Hurdles: Negotiations stalled due to complex NIL contract language and flexibility within the JMI agreement, causing uncertainty for Collins' camp.
- Shifting Priorities: Collins' situation highlights a broader trend where elite recruits prioritize NIL value and flexibility over traditional prestige, forcing schools to adapt.
- Coach's Stance: Kentucky Athletic Director Mitch Barnhart stated the university wouldn't break rules for recruits but acknowledged adapting to the NIL landscape, emphasizing coaching decisions remain separate from NIL deals.
- Impact on Recruitment: The NIL complexities cooled Kentucky's momentum, with USC gaining traction due to its strong NIL and program fit, while Illinois and others also offered strong academic/developmental pitches.
So AGAIN, please post the JMI contract details that every top 20 basketball recruit loves and is willing to crawl over broken glass to sign with UK for (As evidenced by our historic 5* recruiting haul for the upcoming season).
that's the thing, he never has any good news to give us. he just comes here and calls everybody stupid liars. that's fine. it's a message board so yeah there's gonna be some bad info spread around. but...we still don't have any players.Because Anon943222 is too busy posting on RR defending the JMI deal instead of restructuring it is my guess.
it is quite simple. if we start signing recruits, people will stop b*tching about the recruiting. it's a very simple concept to understand
It's like obsessively weird. You mention (the NIL company that shall not be named) and he busts through like the Kool-Aid man with a new Anon account slinging insults and accusations. Like, dude, chill. It was reported that several recruits and their camps disliked contract wording. They also didn't like some of the things Pope did trying to close. It's not a personal attack on your family name and all that you hold dear. The first step in fixing a problem is admitting you have one. And 17 burner account names later, me thinks, he may have a problem.
What are the betting odds we see a positive post from him first or we land a 5* recruit first? Where do we set the line on that?
What I don't understand is how we got three 5* FB players in two days if it's a JMI problem? All 3 of those players had really big NIL offers from the big football schools I would assume by seeing whom was recruiting them.
I read thru all of that and watched the videos.
There are no quotes there directly attributed to any player. There’s anonymous sources.
It reads that Pope is far more of the problem than anything else.
It also seems like a KSR hit piece.
But I’m glad you posted it.
It does put some background on what many post.
Did I say he was a really bad recruiter. I have no idea what kind of recruiter he is. He was never known as a great recruiter. Everything is black and white with you simpletons, nuance has no place.
I read Jacob Polachecks articles. I’m not a simpleton who can be convinced by what the media says. I like to do my own research and look for facts and evidence. There is no concrete evidence or anything of substance in the articles that brainwashed you frauds.
It’s always “the articles”, you and your KSR articles are a joke. That’s why none of you can provide anything of substance, and can’t say what the issue is specifically. You’re brainwashed morons repeating another mans opinion in an article with anonymous sources and treating it as fact. Critical thinking is dead, you will always be told what to think because you’re too stupid to think for yourself.
so we're all in agreement that the recruiting has been below UK standards.
so again I ask you, is the main problem with the recruiting: Pope or JMI?
lol, why do you keep dropping Polacheck's name, you have such a hard-on for him, it's offputting behavior
@JacobPolacheck homie in here calling you out. you gonna stand for that???
EXCELLENT post, brother! Man, that 2002 team was the best team in the country on paper. Should’ve been better than duke or Maryland IMO. Ole Team Turmoil. That was the season that got away. It all began with the MM locker room season ending injury to Jason Parker!
Still yet, we had duke beat in NJ! It took an overtime, almost 40 points from Jay Williams and an egregious call on duke’s last possession to win that game by 1, in OT. We played the eventual national championship, Maryland, in the S16 and only lost by 4. I remember my Dad and I working on the road and thinking that team had a chance to go undefeated. That was the year Bogans was in a horrible shooting slump. What a letdown.
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I have always maintained that Pope has issues closing (also pointed out in the articles). He is equally and issue but not the one being discussed in this regard. Pope was able to land freshmen previous to the restructured JMI deal (Moreno, Johnson, Hawthorne, and Lewis before he de-committed) So even players outside of the state of Kentucky. I have been critical of Pope's ability to close and not knowing the market value of top talents because he is new to recruiting at this level, hence the need for an experienced GM to navigate these waters. A GM won't fix all his issues, but it will help immensely.
There is no direct quote from Christian Collins on camera that I can find, just multiple different reporting agencies referring to him "reporting" his issues with the NIL contract verbiage and vaguely commenting on any NIL deal he makes will be his decision, not someone elses (which is thought, but not confirmed, to be a shot at JMI trying to control his NIL options). I could have posted 100 more articles and links that say roughly the same thing, they say he said it, but there isn't a direct accredited quote on camera or audio, which is what some people want. The closest is sourced as anonymous (which is worded and credited as being Collins or his mother depending on the article you read) speaking in anonymity because they align with what KSR says Collins said.
I'm just a humble alumni who got lucky and inherited his father's company when he passed away that wanted to help our program through NIL. I don't like the current deal personally and how it affects my company. For others, they may love it. It's a hard pass for me. I have friends who still continue to give, who want basketball to be the #1 program in the country. The money is there, the coffers are deep, but getting the recruits to see the forest for the trees is the problem, and it's the wording in the contract, and it's Mark Pope's inability to close. Both can be true, and seem to be from those I know close to the program. I've been told by someone who writes 7 figure checks to UK that Christian wasn't happy with not being allowed to sign multiple outside NIL deals (along with his UK deal) and not be able to use UK likeness and facilities despite being on the team. They said this wasn't a hurdle with USC and it was a unique to UK thing they hadn't seen anywhere else. Now, that is not a news article or interview that I can fact check his word on. But why would he lie to me about that when I simply asked, "I thought we had Collins at the table ready to sign, what happened? Did they want more money?" He could have blamed it on Pope, he could have said they couldn't reach a number, or that he didn't like his projected minutes, but he said that Christian didn't like the contract details limiting his earning potential.
I say all that to say this, I don't hate the current deal. I hate the wording AND that we got rid of the collective (which every other school who signed NIL deals like ours kept around and separate - see Ohio St among others). Other schools are willing to play dirty with NIL, UK isn't. We won't bend the rules or try anything that might get us in trouble later. That's fine and all for 4* recruits in the 40-50 nationally ranked area, but we are going after top 10 guys outgunned by programs willing to muck it up in NIL. Eventually, this deal will pan out, especially in Football. But it will hurt us up front with the cream of the crop in Basketball until someone breaks through and takes a chance on it to prove it is a good deal with high potential earnings, or it is revamped slightly to provide more up front guarantees and less back end restrictions on outside deals. But at the end of the day, I just want to see UK as a blue blood again and competing for final fours, not Mountain West 2* transfers and trying to stay out of the cellar in the SEC.
There is no direct quote from Christian Collins on camera that I can find, just multiple different reporting agencies referring to him "reporting" his issues with the NIL contract verbiage and vaguely commenting on any NIL deal he makes will be his decision, not someone elses (which is thought, but not confirmed, to be a shot at JMI trying to control his NIL options). I could have posted 100 more articles and links that say roughly the same thing, they say he said it, but there isn't a direct accredited quote on camera or audio, which is what some people want. The closest is sourced as anonymous (which is worded and credited as being Collins or his mother depending on the article you read) speaking in anonymity because they align with what KSR says Collins said.
I'm just a humble alumni who got lucky and inherited his father's company when he passed away that wanted to help our program through NIL. I don't like the current deal personally and how it affects my company. For others, they may love it. It's a hard pass for me. I have friends who still continue to give, who want basketball to be the #1 program in the country. The money is there, the coffers are deep, but getting the recruits to see the forest for the trees is the problem, and it's the wording in the contract, and it's Mark Pope's inability to close. Both can be true, and seem to be from those I know close to the program. I've been told by someone who writes 7 figure checks to UK that Christian wasn't happy with not being allowed to sign multiple outside NIL deals (along with his UK deal) and not be able to use UK likeness and facilities despite being on the team. They said this wasn't a hurdle with USC and it was a unique to UK thing they hadn't seen anywhere else. Now, that is not a news article or interview that I can fact check his word on. But why would he lie to me about that when I simply asked, "I thought we had Collins at the table ready to sign, what happened? Did they want more money?" He could have blamed it on Pope, he could have said they couldn't reach a number, or that he didn't like his projected minutes, but he said that Christian didn't like the contract details limiting his earning potential.
I say all that to say this, I don't hate the current deal. I hate the wording AND that we got rid of the collective (which every other school who signed NIL deals like ours kept around and separate - see Ohio St among others). Other schools are willing to play dirty with NIL, UK isn't. We won't bend the rules or try anything that might get us in trouble later. That's fine and all for 4* recruits in the 40-50 nationally ranked area, but we are going after top 10 guys outgunned by programs willing to muck it up in NIL. Eventually, this deal will pan out, especially in Football. But it will hurt us up front with the cream of the crop in Basketball until someone breaks through and takes a chance on it to prove it is a good deal with high potential earnings, or it is revamped slightly to provide more up front guarantees and less back end restrictions on outside deals. But at the end of the day, I just want to see UK as a blue blood again and competing for final fours, not Mountain West 2* transfers and trying to stay out of the cellar in the SEC.
Again, black and white because you’re a clueless simpleton too stupid for nuance. UK recruiting is below standards, is it Nike or the SEC Network? Is it because we have almost the whole team returning or because we play a deep bench which limits everyone’s minutes? Is it because guys want to stay close to home or recruits want to play in a more open offense? Its recruiting, there are numerous factors involved with the recruiting of 16/17 year old boys.
The thing is you don’t even care about the truth. That’s why you lied and made up a quote from Christian Collins. Matt Jones’ lie is a core belief for you and you will burn UK to the ground to keep it alive. Matt Jones is feuding with UK and JMI for years. He set the narrative and Jacob Polacheck provided the propaganda. Now you’re a brainwashed loser trying to tell everyone who will listen that UK has shady NIL and you have to sign your rights away to play for UK. Goofy Matt Jones turned you boys into Reek.
I think he may have actually had a stroke trying to answer this. That tangent derailed faster than his last blind date.
Bro, the field of 68 said that Kentucky was a top 5ish team in preseason. Said we had two players for every position. Also said our worst guard would start on 330 D1 teams. So, this notion that this roster is sh1tty, is nonsense.
everything with him breaks down into an essay about matt jones. like dude i didn't even bring matt up. im not even a ksr listener and he's telling me "matt jones' lies are core beliefs to me" lol wtf is this guy on about???I think he may have actually had a stroke trying to answer this. That tangent derailed faster than his last blind date.
so lemme see if i got this right:
Matt Jones = Hitler
Jacob Polacheck = Goebbels
Drew Franklin = Mengele
Jack Pilgrim = Himmler