Wrestling No. 17 Wrestling Hosts Weekend Matches with No. 13 Michigan, Purdue
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How much has Pinto regressed. Teched this guy last year. Another guy collecting his NIL.
21-9 RU
I can imagine the comments if we were losing
I can imagine the comments if we were losing
Purdue sucks and that was even before they had two starters out.
And besides Queen hasn’t beaten a guy with a pulse. Our crack coaching staff getting most out of everyone
Isn’t he a RS freshman— yes I mean among the rs and true freshman I like Barbosa most
This is sad.. our “leaders” “best wrestlers” of the program Shawver and Pinto both started in all stars match to now both looking frauds/burned out??
Other leader is out indefinitely bc disciplinary issues… not a good look overall..
Joey O is just having some mild academic issues
.Harley1...where are you Harley1? We need your white trash, South Jersey аss to weigh on the Joey O situation.Dumbf@ck that you are.
Isn't Gibson a 133 lb er technically? As far as the 3rd placer, imagine what people say on other boards when 6th placer SCW beats someone.
He redshirted last year. Next year is his third in the program. Or, have I lost track of time?
He is in witness protection program....according to you...lol...I have no idea what's going on but neither do you or anyone else here ...lying and saying he and his family are part of the mafia gambling ring according to you is not proven or even mentioned except by you and your sources ...we all know how good your sources are so go back to your bottle and calm down and keep the talk to wrestling if you can somehow do that while drunk...Joey O is just having some mild academic issues
I said i like Barbosa the most out of our freshmans—which I am including RS and true. Then u randomly said it’s his second year? Yes it’s his second year.
Nice gutting out wins From Clark and White.. I know some of y’all think think our current freshman are better but there’s a reason Clark and White are the starters. They are our best options like it or not.
Clark with a nice win over #21 Brown and White gutting out SV over #22 Buell. I can’t confidently say any of the freshmans woulda beaten those Purdue guys. Those wins will be huge for qualifications and seedings.
Clark with a nice win over #21 Brown and White gutting out SV over #22 Buell. I can’t confidently say any of the freshmans woulda beaten those Purdue guys. Those wins will be huge for qualifications and seedings.
It IS possible to come to certain conclusions without intimate knowledge of the situation. When Goodale said he was clear to go and he hoped to see him wrestle this past Friday, it pretty well indicates it's not an academic situation. Also, team rules suggest something other than grades. I think we can safely conclude that he did or was involved in something bad. The length of time he's been out also suggests it was more than a minor infraction. The lack of information or explanation is not unusual with this team. The fact that he weighed in tells us there is something more at play than just the suspension from competition. Not knowing otherwise, he could have missed weight, but I suspect there is some conflict among individuals. The timing of his "infraction" being coincident with other local news is speculation. Speculation does not require fact, else it would not be speculation. Facts aside, there are ways to communicate with fans that would not reveal the cause of the circumstances while still giving us some amount of information, rather than keeping everyone in the dark. There can be privacy without secrecy. Again, I find the secrecy disrespectful to the fans. I'm not confident we'll see Joey wrestle again.
Shane's ranked 15th, this kid isn't even the starter at 133, he's the backup and has been wrestling sparingly at that weight with not much success.
It wasn't random, and my words were "Second year in the program", which is true. I was pointing out that next season will tell us if he has improved or possibly regressed, which isn't unusual by the third year. I deliberately did not use eligibility or grade level. I do agree that Barbosa has shown promise, and I, too, hope he finds some good training. If he does, that might resolve my fear of him going down the Rutgers slide. We are not in disagreement. There are six other guys that show potential, plus one or two arriving next season. We can't keep wasting opportunities, and it isn't fair to the kids who come.
The bottom line is if Goodale is not going anywhere he desperately needs a top Asst cosch. It’s painfully obvious something is missing. Its sad when Goodales voice is only one you hear in corner (used to be Donnie). We are severely lacking in the coaching vs our peer programs and its obvious how things are playing out.
Remember, Labriola is there too. He is highly regarded as an accomplished wrestler. However, he isn't in charge, and we don't know if his coaching skills are as good as his technical skills. He's too new and isn't in a position to turn things around. Another accomplished wrestler/coach is needed, but don't expect that to make much more of a difference than Labriola makes. The program desperately needs a big-name coach who will know how to put all the pieces together. That will not necessarily come from an accomplished wrestler - it might, and it could, but managing the program is another skill.
Barbosa has Sammy Sasso to work out with. Is that good enough for you folks? Yes disappointed in Shawnee and Pinto today but proud of those has been White and Clark for wins over ranked guys.
Not going to speculate what the issue is with Olivieri. But from what I see. It looks like goody has either lost the room or doesn’t know how to motivate the wrestlers.
The fact is we don't know ....nobody does but to defame the kid and his family and say he was part of something criminal simply because of where he lives is ridiculous ...and thats what our resident drunk flat out said ...weight,grades some broken rule infraction who knows ...hopefully he comes back and we get back to wrestling ..
That might be accurate although I don't think it's an accusation that is coming from left field. Bottom line is that the suspension happened at the same time as those two were busted. It just happens that he's good friends and from the same town as one of the guys. Again, even if so, who gives a ****. Let the kid wrestle.
This is not accurate. Timing was a month apart. They were arrested 11/13. JO wrestled 4x on 11/23 & 2x on 12/7, but then missed 12/13 vs OU and hasn't wrestled since.
When SCW took out the AA last year at VT, he was not ranked 15th. Point is, sh*t happens.
I hear Labriola. Definitely not as vocal/projecting. But do the kids on the mat really listen? Most of the time they don't even look towards whoever is trying to speak to them. And when there are three people yelling from the corner, who would they hear/listen to anyway?
From what I recall Cael barely ever vocal in the corner if at all.
ah yes when SCW took out the AA from VT. He was from Blair I believe.. and now is off VT team and dunno if he ended up transferring anywhere.. he randomly fell off big time since his freshman AA season(not all wrestlers gtd to improve year over year)
TJ Stewart . And his situation is i believe his mom got sick then died and during all that his grades and wrestling went south as a result.
Damn...didn't know he went thru all that. That's rough.
Hopefully after this year off, he comes back and gets back to his old self...good luck to the young man
Where did you hear that from? Can’t recall any official statements or interviews sayin that’s what happened.. if it did that explains a lot and hope he can bounce back.
Got me thinking how did Richie Figs go from freshman NCAA champ to not even being able to start. Granted he was the 8th seed, but kinda figured he would at least be an AA the following 3 years.. don’t think ever seen this magnitude of falloff before…
Richie Figs didn’t start for ASU until is redshirt sophomore year. Was 15-5 that year. Nothing special during that season but had good run in March.
Last season went 1-2 at NCAAs
This year he took the money and seems to have the HEW.
Not a great career but he’ll always be able to say he’s a NCAA champ. Will end up 2 yr starter and one time AA/champ
Yeah I remember now, he was behind, finalist, Brandon Courtney.
If polled, wonder if most wrestlers would rather be a 4x AA but no champ, or a one time NCAA champ career. I guess it’s similar to Cassar except his was a 1 year starter and he finished as champ.
Can’t recall if there ever was a situation where a wrestler went from being a champ to not being able to win starting spot anymore without any inj involved. Wonder what his traumatic backstory was for the drop off.. even if he stayed at Arizona state.. still woulda lost to freshman Larkin.
He didn’t finish as champ he blew his shoulder out during the season against Dom Bradley at the US Senior Nationals.
Yes, Cassar won the HWT championship in 2019, beating Derek White. Shoulder injury happened later that year.Didn’t Cassar win the ncaa title his sr year of college?