Minnesota - ICE Agent Shoots Woman Protester In Car - Happened Again - Both Justified

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I would question all of this:

"The agent has over 10 years of experience as an ICE Deportation Officer and is on the agency’s Special Response Team, which requires 30 hours of tryouts to be considered, Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement. She did not say how long the agent had been on the Special Response Team.

To qualify for the team, agents are required to participate in a basic operator course, maintain expert marksman qualification on all issued firearms, and have ongoing training in specialized skills like “breaching techniques, perimeter control, advanced firearms training, hostage rescue, and more,” she said."
why would you question it. Was there something in the video that shows action counter to this training?
 

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A day after Kirk was killed on a Utah college campus, a top State Department official vowed to take "appropriate action" against any visa-holders who praise or make light of Kirk's death — and invited people to send in any concerning posts that they see.
Days later, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, "visa revocations are under way."
So no one got deported.
 

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"America will not host foreigners who celebrate the death of our fellow citizens," Rubio said on X.
  • "Visa revocations are under way. If you are here on a visa and cheering on the public assassination of a political figure, prepare to be deported. You are not welcome in this country."
Didn't know them personally.
There’s no name or instance. What is this?
 

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hadn't thought about that. Are you sure he got in a car and left or is that speculation? I didn't see any film subsequent to the shooting.
Yes - appears as though he leaves about 90 seconds after the shooting. In the same SUV that was blocking the victim's vehicle in the first place.
 

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why would you question it. Was there something in the video that shows action counter to this training?
I wouldn't say it was strong perimeter control. I would question all the training, actually. Also, you'd think a guy who had already been drug by a vehicle would be a bit more wary around suspect vehicles.
 

dpic73

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What he said….

Being dragged before shouldn't be an excuse.

"Let’s talk about something. The fact that the ICE agent who murdered Renee Good was dragged by a moving vehicle in a prior incident is not a defense, it actually makes the situation much worse for him. In law-enforcement reviews, a previous similar incident doesn’t excuse later conduct; it establishes that the risk was known and that the officer had already been warned, reviewed, and retrained. Instead of supporting his justification, it raises the standard of care he was expected to follow.

ICE agents, like all federal law-enforcement officers, are trained not to place themselves in front of or alongside moving vehicles. Vehicles are treated as inherently dangerous, and standard training emphasizes creating distance, stepping out of the vehicle’s path, and avoiding positions where an officer could be struck or dragged. Putting yourself in the way of a moving car is considered a violation of basic officer-safety principles.

Now consider the earlier incident where he was reportedly dragged. That would have triggered a formal after-action review and almost certainly required retraining focused specifically on vehicle encounters and positioning. At that point, the danger is no longer hypothetical it is documented, understood, and directly addressed through training or corrective action.

When the same officer later places himself in the path of a moving vehicle again, it looks significantly worse from a professional standpoint. It suggests he repeated conduct he had already been trained to avoid. In law-enforcement terms, that shows a failure to apply training and a pattern of negligent behavior, not a one-time mistake.

Finally, in use-of-force evaluations, officers generally cannot create their own danger and then rely on that danger to justify deadly force. If an officer acts contrary to training, puts himself in harm’s way, and then escalates force because of that self-created risk, investigators and courts view that as increased responsibility, not a valid excuse."

 

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If this is a thread where we just post random, unrelated bvllshit, chew on this.


What in the literal ****? You posted a weirdo protesting . I posted a weirdo protesting. How is that not related, you dumbphuck? Did you grow up at the LEaRinG center lol
 

dpic73

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What in the literal ****? You posted a weirdo protesting . I posted a weirdo protesting. How is that not related, you dumbphuck? Did you grow up at the LEaRinG center lol
You followed up on my post showing the blood splattered inside of the victim's car with a maga claiming "This is what I voted for" with a post about what Tyler Robinson's roommate got for Christmas. Did you spend a lot of time in the corner in high school? I mean if you actually went or if you're still there.

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You followed up on my post showing the blood splattered inside of the victim's car with a maga claiming "This is what I voted for" with a post about what Tyler Robinson's roommate got for Christmas. Did you spend a lot of time in the corner in high school? I mean if you actually went or if you're still there.

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Show me where i followed up with anything blood related , please . If i did , it wasn’t intentional
 

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Yea I was asking if you were Tyler’s boyfriend. Fair question imo
I'll never understand why grown men exist on this board just to troll. It's sad enough there's alot of grown men on this board who spend their time posting about politics- thats sad in and of itself, me included.

But to exist on a forum just to troll and bring nothing substantial has to be the saddest existence in the world. Get a life you pathetic little incel
 

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I'll never understand why grown men exist on this board just to troll. It's sad enough there's alot of grown men on this board who spend their time posting about politics- thats sad in and of itself, me included.

But to exist on a forum just to troll and bring nothing substantial has to be the saddest existence in the world. Get a life you pathetic little incel
Still mad from the other thread, soy boy?
 

dpic73

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I'll never understand why grown men exist on this board just to troll. It's sad enough there's alot of grown men on this board who spend their time posting about politics- thats sad in and of itself, me included.

But to exist on a forum just to troll and bring nothing substantial has to be the saddest existence in the world. Get a life you pathetic little incel
What gives you the unlikely belief that he's a grown man? If he is, he's surely unemployable and a drain on society.
 

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Racial profiling is literal racism, especially when trying to apprehend, detain, or arrest based solely on skin color
RP is literally a ridiculous scheme to protect lawbreakers. Let's just drop this joke of a rule that can't be proven anyway.
 

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RP is literally a ridiculous scheme to protect lawbreakers. Let's just drop this joke of a rule that can't be proven anyway.
Deport all "illegals" who are people of color unless they are white and potentially "impeding ICE agents" then we can shoot and murder them type sh

But yeah, racial profiling is a "ridiculous scheme." Find a new slant and a new ideology
 
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RP is literally a ridiculous scheme to protect lawbreakers. Let's just drop this joke of a rule that can't be proven anyway.
Trump doesn't give a single ****. Those agents can do whatever they want and you know it.

I think he meant "mortality"


 
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Deport all "illegals" who are people of color unless they are white and potentially "impeding ICE agents" then we can shoot and murder them type sh

But yeah, racial profiling is a "ridiculous scheme." Find a new slant and a new ideology
Very slanted opinion. Reality is that probably 95+ percent of the illegal immigrants are non white. If the shoe fits then wear it.
 

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Very slanted opinion. Reality is that probably 95+ percent of the illegal immigrants are non white. If the shoe fits then wear it.
And yet you're terrorizing the tens of millions who are non white and are legal citizens. It's completely and utterly racist to its core. Just own it
 
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There is no proof of your claim.
What are you talking about? ICE agents are allowed to racially profile. There are COUNTLESS documented instances of ICE agents apprehending and/or harassing legal citizens of color. They have killed multiple American Citizens. They killed a white American citizen who was a mother of a 6 year old in cold blood yesterday.

They have immunity and are apprehending both legal and undocumented individuals in the United States based on their color, and killing those who are impeding them or are at the wrong place at the wrong time.

You have become what you always conspired against- the deep state with a militarized/gestapo force
 
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TigerGrowls

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What are you talking about? ICE agents are allowed to racially profile. There are COUNTLESS documented instances of ICE agents apprehending and/or harassing legal citizens of color. They have killed multiple American Citizens. They killed a white American citizen who was a mother of a 6 year old in cold blood yesterday.

They have immunity and are apprehending both legal and undocumented individuals in the United States based on their color, and killing those who are impeding them or are at the wrong place at the wrong time.

You have become what you always conspired against- the deep state with a militarized/gestapo force
It's in your imagination imo.
 
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dpic73

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It's in your imagination imo.
No, it's not. If you can't be brown while working at Target without being arrested, even though you're a citizen, you have been racially profiled. Do you think they would have arrested a white man like me?


 
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No, it's not. If you can't be brown while working at Target without being arrested, even though you're a citizen, you have been racially profiled. Do you think they would have arrested a white man like me?



And he was promptly released. This inconvenience is on the democrat party for allowing the invasion.
 
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Nah, it's reality. Facts. Happy to share verified sources

I don't peddle in imaginary delusions of infamous criminal grandeur like you
The reality is when 95+ percent of the illegal immigrants are non white then a lot of that racial type are going to be apprehended. Any mistakes are quickly corrected. The blame lies with the democrat party.
 
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dpic73

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And he was promptly released. This inconvenience is on the democrat party for allowing the invasion.
His passport was showing and they still tackled him to the ground. Is injure first and ask questions later where we are now?