Doesn't stop you from taking personal shots at them though does it ...more recently some mafia lie about Joey O and now two made up stories about Knox ...your an 8th place loser and you got nothing because 8th place is exactly that ..8th place lol...your brown bag needs a refill so maybe go there and stop making up crap with no basis in fact ...
Wrestling Top NJ recruit, former Cornell commit Anthony Knox commits to Rutgers Wrestling
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Two, All American finishes.Get it right.Again, same old material, from a casual fan, with zero personal accomplishments,other than being the Van Brills neighbor.
why don't you just start a separate thread to have your little side arguments? it's been going on for way too long.
when are those penn state and iowa transfers coming? still waiting on the shitliner.
Oh, Mr.Negative has spoke.Come up with some new material.Its getting kind of old you moron.
Lol you honestly act like a child. I really feel like your act has to be fact. There's no way you can be a 60 year old man that behaves like this.
And you're a moron that spreads negativity to a program that i'm sure you probably never had any involvement with. Just some casual yoyo living vicariously through great athletes. I'm over sixty.
Willie talked about on the show with Basch today , didn’t get a chance to listen yet but the headline says his decision is coming soon
I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't commit here. Save the university some money. No freshman college kid wrestler is worth seven figures.
I kinda agree with Crackers. The only wrestler that is a lock to make multiple finals, based on folkstyle results, and that can attract future recruits(MM etc) was Basset. It’s amazing to me how some people think his style might not transition to college when he’s already majoring Joy etc.
I understand your point of view and I think NIL has ruined college sports but on the flip side Goodale has showed he can’t recruit kids at Knox level so to have the opportunity to have a guy like that fall into our laps is an opportunity to change the programs direction that doesnt come around too often
I saw you compare Knox to the Camp situation and I agree Knox has some red flags but most his trouble is typical dumb teenager stuff while Camp was running guns and going on the run to avoid ATF lol
DWIs, assaults, and bad character are nothing to sneeze at. I get it, arms and drug dealing is pretty heavy, but I just see this whole situation as a money grab/cash out to the highest bidder, when I see campus issues and not alot of upside with him. Hate to beat a Dead Horse but I see a kid like SCW who is real champ in my eyes.
I agree he has some red flags but my line of thinking is you bring in a top 1% recruit even with the baggage and you navigate that and he succeeds that opens the door to bring in more top 1 percent recruits just without the issues.I don’t see a path forward for Goodale to bring in top guys without having a Knox come in and set the standard first.It’s a big risk especially $$ wise but the program is stale at the moment and could be staring down back to back years with no AAs so risk needs to be taken right now. SCW is one of easiest guys to root for in the entire ncaa but guys like him are few and far between and I don’t believe Goodale even saw this potential I think he was just looking for a room guy so I don’t have faith he’s going to go out and find more SCW type guys. And to be a top squad you kind of need a cocky/ arrogant type guy to mix in with those team first high character kids. Even Penn state and all there ”have fun” bible study wholesome nonsense still always have a starocci / Bo nickal bc they have the ultimate winning mindset and that rubs off on guys.
I agree with ya Crackers, and to pay any kid 7 figures he better be a multiple times finalist.. I do believe Knox can be a 3-4x AA but will he be Suriano lvl(3x finalist 2x champ in 3 years)? Idk. Had he beaten Bouzakis woulda given more confidence…. Any program would be happy to have Knox but 7 figures he better be nothing short of amazing. If he is guaranteed to attract future recruits(like Basset with MM) then it could be worth it… anyways with where our program is it’s probably worth the risk…. And I agree with u on SCW love the hustle on the kid.. he’s one of the few that feels like he’s actively trying to improve and score.
I’m not overly concerned with V tech, they don’t have a lot of money left over at the moment and Knox would have to redshirt next year behind Ventresca and if he gets big he could find himself out of the lineup behind Seidel.
I don't know bro. I just don't feel it with this kid. I feel like all the passion in him is about financial gain and self promotion.I dont see the same tenacity as a Suriano or an Ashnault. I've been a student of the game and have met every high level wrestler there is. The ones that are the best are separated by humble means and pure ferocity. I just think this kid's gonna have too much leeway to be too close to home and a lot of money in his pocket. Ethically , I find it an appalling that this kid is getting this kind of money. Compare his ability to SCW, and what he is demanding financially and what SWC is getting.Seems super unfair.Criminal if ask me.Make dislike Goodale more and more everyday.AP wasnt kidding when he said Goodale is a businessman more than a coach.A coach honors all his athletes, regardless of talent.Businessmen regard the accolades and what can you do for me next, type situations.
High lvl d1 sports now is becoming more business like then anything. No one cares if “Ted” is a “ good kid”. They only care if he’s also a good kid while excelling at said sport. I get where you are coming from though and I’m not yet sold on Knox being a gtd multiple times finalist as some on this board are yet. And yes if he’s getting paid 7 figures he better be a multiple times finalist or attract hella lotta elite wrestlers to turn the program around otherwise it probably won’t be worth the asking price.
Rumor was that VT didn’t have any cash leftover to pay the NIL bill which is supposedly in the neighborhood of $2M for Knox. If Knox is taking a visit not only does it mean we have to wait but perhaps VT raised more cash.
Won’t be long before other schools follow Cal Baptist and shut down their programs. Why bother running a D1 program if you can’t afford to pay for top recruits. Or if you actually find a diamond in the rough and spend time/resources on development, it’s transfer portal time.
$2m? Now, that's ridiculous if even close to being true. He's a great wrestler, and I believe he would AA four times. If he could win it all, it'd better be in the first two years. I don't expect his presence to attract 1% wrestlers. And still, no one has figured out where the money would come from for any more big names. I don't think the Pin Pool or annual golf outing would fund it.
Right. We're at a disadvantage whenever another option is available.
I tend to agree that more D1 teams will fold up when it’s impossible to compete. Even if you develop someone there gone in the portal.
SCW is an anomaly. He fell in Goodale's lap. He is a guy who got the bug later than others and has really applied himself. He's the exception. I will not be surprised to see him AA, especially if he keeps up the intensity and remains healthy. SCW definitely should be recognized for what he is contributing. The team would do well to have another nine like him.
Going rate for top recruits is anywhere from $250K-$500K p/yr. And Bo may be higher. It’s gotten ridiculous and you have to assume if Knox gets anywhere near $2M total there are other top recruits that will try to renogotiate their deals. At this point, I think I’m just as happy watching CBA v. Delbarton at the Catholic school duals and screw this NIL insanity.
Bouzakis was a big-name recruit, and there were people here hoping to get him. He had been wrestling 133 before dropping this year to 125. He looks considerably stronger, and it shouldn't be a stain on Knox's record to have lost a close one to him. When Shawver was wrestling well, he had his hands full with Bouzakis.
Well to all you guys who ***** about us not being a top ten team and now feel this kid ain’t worth paying what top guys get …don’t come on here complaining about us not being good enough …money talks in wrestling nowadays so ya can’t complain if ya don’t want to pay these kids… I don’t believe for one minute that the price tag is what you guys are saying it is.
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Another way to look at it if your Knox. You get to train with Seidel for the next 4 years. Vs training with?
I am going to be one of the dissenters on here and say that I don't want Knox and his baggage on the team. That has been my position since he and his dad had their issues in the stands at regionals. I was totally surprised that Cornell was still willing to accept his commitment when that happened. Obviously the Cornell administration eventually came to their senses and blocked his enrollment and told Mike Grey no.
I don't really care how good a wrestler he is and what his potential upside is. He has flashed alarming character issues. Even if he and his dad are exonerated in court I still think it's a bad look for the program. Guys like Ashnault, Suriano (eventually), and Seabass (eventually) wanted to come to Rutgers. Knox apparently has some character issues and appears to be purely a hired gun at this point, as is his right. It appears that he is looking for the biggest payday, also as is his right, as it is probably the biggest payday that he will ever see.
I was a hard no on pursuing AJ Ferrari and I am a hard no here. I want the team to do as well as possible and to succeed at the highest level, but not at this potential cost.
I don't really care how good a wrestler he is and what his potential upside is. He has flashed alarming character issues. Even if he and his dad are exonerated in court I still think it's a bad look for the program. Guys like Ashnault, Suriano (eventually), and Seabass (eventually) wanted to come to Rutgers. Knox apparently has some character issues and appears to be purely a hired gun at this point, as is his right. It appears that he is looking for the biggest payday, also as is his right, as it is probably the biggest payday that he will ever see.
I was a hard no on pursuing AJ Ferrari and I am a hard no here. I want the team to do as well as possible and to succeed at the highest level, but not at this potential cost.
What do you mean ...us. You're not a scarlet knight , or we're even a Rutgers student. You're a van brill jock sniffer.... What an honor
The irony of all this is that you are the least humble human on the planet
Bouzakis is another top recruit that hasn’t wrestled to his full potential. Like Knox, he was a top 3 p4p recruit lightweight that some people were already penciling in as a multi time national champ AA already. It’s only this year that he has started to wrestle to his potential.
No losing to this version Bouzakis is not a stain but it’s also no indication that Knox can beat LL, Robinson, etc and will be a multi time national finalist type.. I do believe he will be a multiple time AA tho but multiple time champ idk, is a multiple time AA worth 7 figures is my point. For 7 figures ya gotta be penciled in for national finals every year.
I don’t know anything about wrestling but I heard from someone who would know that Rutgers can get this kid but it’s going to going to come down to NIL.