Ferentz hasnt decided to return next year?

Bierhalter

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what are you even rambling about, she got rid of Ferentz jr and hired McCollum, how is that a bad
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Anychawk

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The thing is, any other savvy head coach has already been using Ferentz' age against him for years. Even with a multi-year extension, it would be very easy to plant the seed of doubt in a young recruit's mind that Ferentz isn't going to be his head coach for the entire time he's at Iowa (among other fodder used to negatively recruit against Iowa).
How much does that play today with the portal? 20 years ago, sure? Now a days how many players are staying at the same school for four years?
 

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Go follow Michigan state. They have the worlds
True, but Iowa can counter with the argument that with almost any other school the guys we are recruiting may choose, there is as much likelihood of that school’s coach getting fired or leaving for another job as there is for KF leaving Iowa. A strong contract helps Iowa’s argument. Leaving KF with only 1 or 2 years left on his contract destroys it.

Honestly, there comes a time when you need to either extend a coach, or fire him. That’s where we were with Fran. I’m sure there are strong opinions both ways on whether we are there with Kirk.
yea we need to fire KF and become Nebraska. That May be the only way to satisfy the Iowa city radical loony bin. Lol idiots
 

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How much does that play today with the portal? 20 years ago, sure? Now a days how many players are staying at the same school for four years?
Would be interesting if there was data on the average length of a player's career at one FBS school. I know the top stories are always the guys who play for 5 schools in 6 years, but I have to believe those are outliers. Just like JUCOs who could only stick around for 1-2 years used to be fairly common, but never represented the majority of a football roster.
 

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One thought:

Kirk is very old fashioned and he probably wants 5 years on his contract to reassure recruits, families, and himself that he's going to be with an athlete for their 4 to 5 years in the program. This, despite the fact that we rarely see athletes stick around at one school for 4 to 5 years.


Other thought:

There's no reason to say this unless he's unequivocal about his desire to coach the team in 2026. To me the subtext is, "give me a new contract, or if not maybe I'll just retire."

Since the beginning of 2025, I have thought he would retire during the 2026 off-season (the coming months) in order to set up Seth as interim, with a one year tryout and job security for the rest of the staff. Stoops did this with Lincoln Riley at OU, which worked out fine for a while (until he left).

An off-season retirement announcement is still in play, and frankly it may be the only way we seamlessly transition out of the Ferentz era without doing major damage to the program and the relationship.
 
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yea we need to fire KF and become Nebraska. That May be the only way to satisfy the Iowa city radical loony bin. Lol idiots
Just to be clear, I am not advocating that we fire KF … Personally, I’d give him an extension (preferably a rolling 1-year extension).

My point is to acknowledge the benefits of a coach having at least 4 years remaining on his contract, and suggesting that if you are not willing to make that happen, it could be harmful to the success of the program.
 

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I don’t think Goetz is “forced” into any single successor or interim coach. In any event, Lester would be the better in-house pick IMO.
The woman who fired KF's son over KF's strong objection ain't gonna be afraid to do what's right for the program. There's always somebody available who would be an excellent head coach of the Hawkeyes. Remember when KF was hired? It wasn't exactly considered a brilliant move, nor did KF have a special resume. Sure, he had those years as an OL coach under Hayden, but then head coach at Maine for three years where he went a highly forgettable 12-21. That's the guy who got the head job at Iowa. That's the guy many people still say should coach until he dies. LOL

I don't think Beth is gonna let KF or anyone else bully her. She's no Gary Barta. If KF wants to force the issue, tell him take what she offers or retire. Plain and simple.
 

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So it was a coincidence that Ferentz named Wallace, and no one else, AHC. Okay...

Take a look at the "if" in "If KF gets his way."
KF giving SW the "Associate Head Coach" title might indicate that SW is KF's choice for his successor, especially if needed in a pinch as an interim. But that is far from meaning that SW is the HC in waiting, which is what was suggested.
 
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Uhhhh yes he did. If KF gets his way the next coach will be Wallace
And that would be a huge mistake. KF ain't the AD. Beth will hire who SHE wants, as she should. And it won't be Seth Wallace, IMHO.

Hiring Jan for women's basketball made sense and seems to be working just fine. Hiring Ben McCollom from D II and Drake will do for Iowa basketball what Curt Cignetti is doing for Indiana football. Talk about a home run hire.

And never forget that Gary Barta hired one of the worst college basketball coaches of all time in Todd Lickliter. Barta did no research and had no idea who Lickliter really was. We all found out after three of the most miserable, depressing, ugly years in Iowa basketball history.

The only person currently on the Iowa staff who even deserves consideration to succeed KF is Tim Lester, a guy who has been a head coach and who knows the game so well that he's been able to pull Iowa's offense up to respectable heights after KF and his son dumped it into the center of the earth. But when the time comes, I believe Beth will find the next Curt Cignetti, the next Ben McCollom, because her track record says she always does.
 
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Just to be clear, I am not advocating that we fire KF … Personally, I’d give him an extension (preferably a rolling 1-year extension).

My point is to acknowledge the benefits of a coach having at least 4 years remaining on his contract, and suggesting that if you are not willing to make that happen, it could be harmful to the success of the program.
I know the cool woke take is to disrespect KF , but show a little respect and appreciation for what he’s done here.

about 99% of the fanbase outside Iowa city does appreciate and respect KF
 

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If that is what he is after, a discretionary rolling one year extension is the only thing that makes sense. At some point you have to turn the f’n page.
Turn the page from abother top 20 finish and beating our border rivals at like an 85% clip?
 
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One thought:

Kirk is very old fashioned and he probably wants 5 years on his contract to reassure recruits, families, and himself that he's going to be with an athlete for their 4 to 5 years in the program. This, despite the fact that we rarely see athletes stick around at one school for 4 to 5 years.


Other thought:

There's no reason to say this unless he's unequivocal about his desire to coach the team in 2026. To me the subtext is, "give me a new contract, or if not maybe I'll just retire."

Since the beginning of 2025, I have thought he would retire during the 2026 off-season (the coming months) in order to set up Seth as interim, with a one year tryout and job security for the rest of the staff. Stoops did this with Lincoln Riley at OU, which worked out fine for a while (until he left).

An off-season retirement announcement is still in play, and frankly it may be the only way we seamlessly transition out of the Ferentz era without doing major damage to the program and the relationship.
If that IS his mindset, that is patently dishonest. There is no way he could ever make good on that. He is either going to retire or die at some point and will not be honoring that "be here as long as your son is here" guarantee.
 

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Go follow Michigan state. They have the worlds

yea we need to fire KF and become Nebraska. That May be the only way to satisfy the Iowa city radical loony bin. Lol idiots
Better sit down before you read this: Kirk Ferentz is a mortal being. So either he will be fired, will resign, or will die. At that point, whichever comes first, someone else will be the head football coach at Iowa. I know this is a shock, but it's also a fact, and facts are often inconvenient. Sorry.

BTW: The loonies are in DC, and dictators, like football coaches, are mere mortals who are destined to be impeached, to resign, or die. So if you look in the mirror, you may be surprised to find you're the one in the loony bin. Sorry. Not sorry.
 
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KF giving SW the "Associate Head Coach" title might indicate that SW is KF's choice for his successor, especially if needed in a pinch as an interim. But that is far from meaning that SW is the HC in waiting, which is what was suggested.
It effectively makes Wallace KF's "HC in waiting." Any other discussion is trying to find a meaningful distinction where there is none.
 

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I agree Lester would be better, Didn't KF make Wallace the Associate HC pretty much saying he is the HC in waiting, without really saying it lol
OK...military nerd stuff, but British General Bernard Montgomery hand picked his successor. When Monty's superior disagreed, Monty said "I've already told him" Superior said "then untell him", haha
 

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JFC, not this again.

Tell me who among the board and boosters is an expert at zone blocking schemes and will be qualified to

LoL. You’re not qualified to change out hers, let alone wipe her a$$.

She’s the AD at the U of I…helped get rid of OC BF and fired FM, hired BM to replace him. Deal with it women hater.
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And that would be a huge mistake. KF ain't the AD. Beth will hire who SHE wants, as she should. And it won't be Seth Wallace, IMHO.

I know the cool woke take is to disrespect KF , but show a little respect and appreciation for what he’s done here.

about 99% of the fanbase outside Iowa city does appreciate and respect KF
You lost me at "woke." What bullshitt. You need to get woke yourself and realize KF is not Iowa football and that simple human decency has no political party--decency like following the law and respecting the rights of everyone regardless of race, religion, nationality, sexual preference or anything else. I almost feel sorry for you and your piece of scum dictator . . . almost.
 

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You lost me at "woke." What bullshitt. You need to get woke yourself and realize KF is not Iowa football and that simple human decency has no political party--decency like following the law and respecting the rights of everyone regardless of race, religion, nationality, sexual preference or anything else. I almost feel sorry for you and your piece of scum dictator . . . almost.
We need more diversity. KF represents the patriarchy. Down with the patriarchy

that’s how it works for the brainwashed.
 

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Welcome to the Lemming thread. Take off your shoes. Get down on your knees, and form a large capital [O] with your mouth.
 

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Turn the page from abother top 20 finish and beating our border rivals at like an 85% clip?
The next HC will be unable to beat border rivals or finish in the Top20?

For the record, Ferentz’s record against B10-protected border rivals is exceedingly impressive and he should be lauded for that r achievement (vs. Illinois also, Wisconsin not so much).

Bowl games are a nice reward for a decent season but the higher objective is to win a conference championship and/or qualify to play in CFB playoffs - that’s the goal at the start of every season.
 
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I agree Lester would be better, Didn't KF make Wallace the Associate HC pretty much saying he is the HC in waiting, without really saying it lol
If it is head coach in waiting they make that public. Wallace is Assoc HC there to do some of Kirk's work which is what some people on here have described as. Who knows, I will just wait and see