Shoutout to Coach Braun

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While I am very much not against continuing to discuss Pat Fitzgerald, watch his performance at MSU with great interest, discuss and critique his significant legacy and impact on Northwestern, and remember and discuss the Pat Fitzgerald era…

… I would move and suggest that the events of the last three months imply we should all consider the Pat Fitzgerald era firmly over, the post-Fitz transition era over, and a new era of Northwestern football dawning, for better or worse. David Braun and his team stabilized the program with a respectable year this year and we’ve entered the offseason with an offensive restructuring that is a clean break from the last 20 years of northwestern football. It’s a prestige hiring unprecedented in our history to open a brand new stadium. The portal is opening today and may contain exciting presents under the tree. It’s a new day, and discussions of the future can now be separated from totally valid historic discussions of Pat Fitzgerald.
 

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Dude come on. He hired TWO bad coordinators. JON was more obvious because of how good Hank was, but Jake was worse than the guy he replaced, too, and from a much lower baseline.

Moreover, Jake’s offenses were putrid and worse than Lujan, who wasn’t blowing anyone away. We scored under 14 points per game in 2022. Under 14! And after NU, Jake left and led the worse offense in college football. He was a terrible, terrible OC hire and he’s been a bad O. But hey he’s a good QB developer?

The collective amnesia around the horrible state our program was in is just wild. Pat Fitzgerald in no way gets the majority of credit for Braun’s success here, especially after back to back humiliating seasons. He is the best coach we’ve ever had, a great guy on a personal level, and maybe our greatest player, too, but let’s be honest about what was happening on the field.

Braun might not end up taking us to where we need to go but he’s done a damn good job and he deserves credit.
He had one terrible coordinator. Jake was never as bad as you suggest, He was a victim of the end of McCall's tenure. Do you remember what the QB room was like when Jake got here? He had Ramsey in 2020 (a one year competent transfer) But behind him it was terrible. It was the big reason McCall was let go. And that is what he had to deal with in 2021 and 2022. IT is also the reason we have had to deal with transfer QBs. regularly since then. When Jake had even a reasonable QB it was a steady O that did not put the D in bad position and took advantage when they got good Field position. And as far as Jakes O being a big step down from Lujan, that is simple not true, Look at the 23 Jake O and compare it with the 25 Lujan (his best) O. Pretty similar overall with Jakes O scoring 34 TDs (an additional TD was scored by the D) and Lujan's 34 Lujan O rushed for more yds and Jake's passed for a few more. (Olsen was less accurate in 23 but other than that....) Number of completions almost identical, Number of rushes again almost identical Even the total yds were within a couple hundred Jakes team had fewer INTs so a bit less drama, But overall, very, very similar. And in 23 he had also started getting developed a competent backup in Sullivan,

2020 was similar to 2023 except they played only 10 games Scored 28 TDs in those 10 games. YPG about the same as in 2023 as well




You can say it is not enough to your liking but you cannot say that it was significantly worse than Lujan's

And again Fitz and company corrected the two biggest problems with the 21 and 22 teams getting rid of JON and bring in an experienced signal caller, He had the team ready to go, Braun gets some of the credit for sure but for 23 the majority goes to Fitz. That is why I suggested a 25/75 split
 
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It's not just Fitz, I think most assistants once they become HCs view themselves as having "arrived", especially after a couple years of being HC. I get why; they face tons of (in many cases unwarranted, though some justified) criticism from fans and even media, and so they build a sort of defensive coachspeak shell to explain why their decisions are always correct. It sort of gets harder on coaches to continually adjust and change their mindset and succeed in multiple decades, which is probably why a lot bounce back down to being coordinators or fail to be able to stay at the highest level as HC. I also think for many, identifying good staff/assistants is where they trip up, and staff quality is so important to being able to succeed.

Braun strikes me as somebody extremely willing to learn/adjust/adapt at this phase of his career; he also understands and is willing to make tough decisions knowing how difficult staff/personnel decisions are due to the human cost..., but ultimately this is now becoming a business. He's already becoming what appears to be a solid head of program as HC.

It's a bold and aggressive and quite frankly smart move for him to bring on Chip Kelly even knowing that Kelly is a big name OC to the point of the news of his hire being discussed on ESPN and podcasts that follow CFB, and that he's basically ceding control of the offense to Kelly but also going to likely be able to learn from him. It's going big to try and solve what has been the biggest problem with the program over the past 5 years: lack of quality offensive output/scoring.

Braun has basically done everything right to this point, and he's earned at least a few years to try and make this work especially if we see signs over the next 2 years that Kelly is able to lift the offense.

It feels like we're in a very fortunate position to have the program where it is as we enter new RF. Hard to believe we're in such a great setup given the upheaval 3 years ago.
This post gives me hope that fan forums aren't always a waste of time where people only yell at clouds. Excellent point on how challenging it is for Coaches to keep their feet on the ground while dealing with all the external noise.
 
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Reflecting on this all - what a u-turn versus the utter lack of ambition (and vision) under Schill and Gragg. Braun has deftly navigated a huge shift on that front. Though I have no specific knowledge, one would guess that the Ryans played some role in the return of that ambition - given their sunk investment(s), and Bienen's return must have helped. Braun deserves credit for showing what leadership looked like when he put his own money into the lakeside stadium. That was a strong and well-played counterpoint to Gragg's hemming and hawing at the time.
 

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Took him same amount of time as it took Fitz to move on from JON.

OL was a strength this year so I would say beyond average

Was talking more about in game/in season adjustments than coaching changes, where it wouldnt be until the 4th Q or after half the season was over for Fitz & Co to make the necessary adjustments.

Contrast that with Cig and his staff.

After Bama throwing the kitchen sink on blitzes which resulted in 2 sacks, Indiana threw out their initial game plan and made the proper adjustment after one drive.

They didn't do it after the 1st Q, after the half, much less until the 4th Q.

ONE drive is all it took.

As for JON, that is distinguishable from Lujan in that a no. of us predicted that JON was likely going to be a disaster in the making due to his track record of failure.

At least Lujan had success, albeit at a lower level.

And just 3-4 games into his tenure, it became pretty evident that the JON prediction was turning into reality and certainly by the end of the season, there was no doubt that Fitz needed to cut bait and quickly move on from his mistake.

Lujan actually showed some improvement in his 2nd season at the helm and probably would continue to improve and grow into his position, but Braun rightly chose to move on be the program couldn't afford to wait for such improvement (would not be surprised if Lujan has a long, successful career as an OC).
 
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I am big on free speech and I think until threats or completely crazy things start "anything goes" so I am not suggesting anything be done but he seems overwhelmingly anti-Fitz for some reason. Sure Fitz f*cked up two of his last seasons, he also took us to a Big Ten Championship game and took us to four bowls in a rown that we won (and some we lost but that was earlier).

Jeez, move on, I will be rooting for Fitz in every game apart from ours next year and I will always be happy that he - XCoach Pat Fitzgerald - Hired Dave Braun, who will take us to the next level of football dominance and a national championship in the next few years.

GO CATS!
2 championship games…
 
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Great post.

All of this can be true (and for the record, I largely agree with this entire post) with the following added:
1. Fitz didn't adapt to the need for offense in modern college football (and retaining and later rehiring Bajakian supports this further)
2. Fitz's (public at least) commentary on NIL philosophy was behind the times while he was at NU
3. Fitz's best years were behind him, and 4-20 concluding with 0-10 should be a fireable offense at NU

He's allowed to be a legend and our best coach ever and also not the best coach for us anymore (note: it also might not be Braun).
#1 Sure, but overall results matter. He learned quickly having a good defense and shortening the game was the best path to winning in a disadvantaged environment. Bakajian has done well when he had a good QB at NU and other spots. Pretty well regarded actually.

#2 is speculation. Fitz covered for the admin’s lack of investment (as you’d expect a good soldier to do.

#3 is pure opinion. Probably wrong but who cares really.
 
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I thought Braun was a goner after Tulane embarrassed the Cats in Week 1 and I wasn’t alone.

Now, he is making the types of decisions that Fitz never did and still doesn’t.

Braun’s recruiting remains the major concern, but he’s done everything else well and now has the NRF to help seal the deal.
 

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He had one terrible coordinator. Jake was never as bad as you suggest, He was a victim of the end of McCall's tenure. Do you remember what the QB room was like when Jake got here? He had Ramsey in 2020 (a one year competent transfer) But behind him it was terrible. It was the big reason McCall was let go. And that is what he had to deal with in 2021 and 2022. IT is also the reason we have had to deal with transfer QBs. regularly since then. When Jake had even a reasonable QB it was a steady O that did not put the D in bad position and took advantage when they got good Field position. And as far as Jakes O being a big step down from Lujan, that is simple not true, Look at the 23 Jake O and compare it with the 25 Lujan (his best) O. Pretty similar overall with Jakes O scoring 34 TDs (an additional TD was scored by the D) and Lujan's 34 Lujan O rushed for more yds and Jake's passed for a few more. (Olsen was less accurate in 23 but other than that....) Number of completions almost identical, Number of rushes again almost identical Even the total yds were within a couple hundred Jakes team had fewer INTs so a bit less drama, But overall, very, very similar. And in 23 he had also started getting developed a competent backup in Sullivan,

2020 was similar to 2023 except they played only 10 games Scored 28 TDs in those 10 games. YPG about the same as in 2023 as well




You can say it is not enough to your liking but you cannot say that it was significantly worse than Lujan's

And again Fitz and company corrected the two biggest problems with the 21 and 22 teams getting rid of JON and bring in an experienced signal caller, He had the team ready to go, Braun gets some of the credit for sure but for 23 the majority goes to Fitz. That is why I suggested a 25/75 split
Only somebody who thinks fielding multiple offenses ranked in the bottom 10 of all of D1 is acceptable would say Bajakian wasn’t that bad.
 

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Some might say it was St. Hank that got us there more than anything and if we had a Chip Kelly offense to pair we might have won both.
No question the 2020 title game to me showed that we could win as may West titles as we wanted with our philosophy but we wouldn’t be likely to ever beat the OSUs, and beyond that the Alabamas etc. without a major offense upgrade.
 

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Some might say it was St. Hank that got us there more than anything and if we had a Chip Kelly offense to pair we might have won both.
Wouldn’t even have needed Chip Kelly, just a head coach who knows the point of offense is scoring points and that it’s not only possible but desirable to have a good offense alongside a good defense
 
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I thought Braun was a goner after Tulane embarrassed the Cats in Week 1 and I wasn’t alone.

Now, he is making the types of decisions that Fitz never did and still doesn’t.

Braun’s recruiting remains the major concern, but he’s done everything else well and now has the NRF to help seal the deal.
Sure Fitz had the ability to make those decisions? The Kelly hire likely required a significant financial commitment that likely was not possible back then, Heck bringing in new players likely faced those same constraints
 

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Only somebody who thinks fielding multiple offenses ranked in the bottom 10 of all of D1 is acceptable would say Bajakian wasn’t that bad.
Again, look at what we had in QB room in development when Jake got here to replace McCall, We had a serviceable QB transfer for 2020 in Ramsey but that Covid year really handcuffed us in development and recruiting. In 2021 and 2022, the cupboard was pretty bare.
 

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Some might say it was St. Hank that got us there more than anything and if we had a Chip Kelly offense to pair we might have won both.
Because we were a D first team, It will be interesting to see what happens with Kelly. There is danger with the short (time) possession O for a D first team
 

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No question the 2020 title game to me showed that we could win as may West titles as we wanted with our philosophy but we wouldn’t be likely to ever beat the OSUs, and beyond that the Alabamas etc. without a major offense upgrade.
And how many other programs are able to beat the dOSU's and Alabama's? Do you see any chance that NU is going to be able to recruit at that level?
 

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No question the 2020 title game to me showed that we could win as may West titles as we wanted with our philosophy but we wouldn’t be likely to ever beat the OSUs, and beyond that the Alabamas etc. without a major offense upgrade.

Again, look at what we had in QB room in development when Jake got here to replace McCall, We had a serviceable QB transfer for 2020 in Ramsey but that Covid year really handcuffed us in development and recruiting. In 2021 and 2022, the cupboard was pretty bare.
You keep saying this. QBs don’t just randomly show up and you’re forced to work with them. The coaching staff is responsible for recruitment and development. Ramsey was worse in his year at NU than before he got here. Our offense has been an embarrassment.
 
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And how many other programs are able to beat the dOSU's and Alabama's? Do you see any chance that NU is going to be able to recruit at that level?
Realistically with money being the only object, it’s more possible to recruit at that level now than before - I’m talking like Indiana for instance. We are a B1G team with one of the best offensive minds in modern CFB history and we will have top to bottom the best facilities in CFB. Why not? If the playoff expands to 16 teams then it’s also more possible to get into the playoff picture.
 

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Dude come on. He hired TWO bad coordinators. JON was more obvious because of how good Hank was, but Jake was worse than the guy he replaced, too, and from a much lower baseline.

Moreover, Jake’s offenses were putrid and worse than Lujan, who wasn’t blowing anyone away. We scored under 14 points per game in 2022. Under 14! And after NU, Jake left and led the worse offense in college football. He was a terrible, terrible OC hire and he’s been a bad O. But hey he’s a good QB developer?

The collective amnesia around the horrible state our program was in is just wild. Pat Fitzgerald in no way gets the majority of credit for Braun’s success here, especially after back to back humiliating seasons. He is the best coach we’ve ever had, a great guy on a personal level, and maybe our greatest player, too, but let’s be honest about what was happening on the field.

Braun might not end up taking us to where we need to go but he’s done a damn good job and he deserves credit.
Chip Kelly also hired JON to be his defensive coordinator for the 49ers in 2016. =/
 

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You keep saying this. QBs don’t just randomly show up and you’re forced to work with them. The coaching staff is responsible for recruitment and development. Ramsey was worse in his year at NU than before he got here. Our offense has been an embarrassment.
You have a Q room which is basically a pipeline that you are trying to develop to a point where they can take the reigns. The potential of the pipeline was basically exposed in 2019, when it was shown that Hunter Johnson was a bust and further broken when our 2020 recruit, Aiden Atkinson was arrested. The best of what was there was Aiden Smith and Andrew Marty. There was no one in the QB room capable of being a valid starter. That was what Jake walked into. The best that they could do was try to find stopgap and try to rebuild the pipeline at the same time, They fortunately were able to secure the services of Ramsey for 2020 but that was a stopgap.

2020 and 2021 was the COVID period and recruiting in that period was pretty difficult After the Atkinson situation blew up Jake walked into a scramble situation. Ramsey was a good addition for one year but we had nothing in the pipeline, They scrambled to get Richardson, For 2021 the developmental recruit that Jake brought in was Sullivan. (in 2023, he was a serviceable backup but did not stick around) For 22 they brought in Hilinsky to again fill the gap but he was too inconsistent, And also brought in Lausch who ended up starting last year. In 23 Bryant was brought in again to fill the gap.

At issue was that when Jake got here, the pieline was a shambleswith no one viable and during one of the most difficult times to be able to recruit for the most important position, Stop gaps needed to be emplyed and a couple were successful while others were not while we were trying to rebuild out QB room pipeline. For a program like ours since we are not getting guys off the top of the heap, it takes at least a couple years to get them to a point where they can be of service, The guys we brought in were just getting to that 2 year mark
 
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Realistically with money being the only object, it’s more possible to recruit at that level now than before - I’m talking like Indiana for instance. We are a B1G team with one of the best offensive minds in modern CFB history and we will have top to bottom the best facilities in CFB. Why not? If the playoff expands to 16 teams then it’s also more possible to get into the playoff picture.
Sorry but it is not only money, We still only have access to a fraction of the talent pool that other programs have access to, Up until recently we also had an administration that was not that supportive. And a student body that showed more disdain than support for the program
 
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Sorry but it is not only money, We still only have access to a fraction of the talent pool that other programs have access to, Up until recently we also had an administration that was not that supportive. And a student body that showed more disdain than support for the program
In the transfer portal it doesn’t feel to me like we have many restrictions. We’ve taken guys on a very short admission timeline from random colleges all over the place.
 
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In the transfer portal it doesn’t feel to me like we have many restrictions. We’ve taken guys on a very short admission timeline from random colleges all over the place.
I believe that the transfer QBs we have brought in with NIL and through the portal were after Jake was fired. Prior to that I believe that they may have had more in the way of standards and limitations, That said, Wright was offered when in HS, Cannot find an NU offer for Stone but he did have a really good offer list with about 20 P2 offers including OSU, USC, PSU, ND, Mich, AL and plenty more, HJ and Hilinsky were offered out of HS. Ramsey was recruited out of HS but don't see an NU offer. With Bryant don't see interest out of HS
 
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You have a Q room which is basically a pipeline that you are trying to develop to a point where they can take the reigns. The potential of the pipeline was basically exposed in 2019, when it was shown that Hunter Johnson was a bust and further broken when our 2020 recruit, Aiden Atkinson was arrested. The best of what was there was Aiden Smith and Andrew Marty. There was no one in the QB room capable of being a valid starter. That was what Jake walked into. The best that they could do was try to find stopgap and try to rebuild the pipeline at the same time, They fortunately were able to secure the services of Ramsey for 2020 but that was a stopgap.

2020 and 2021 was the COVID period and recruiting in that period was pretty difficult After the Atkinson situation blew up Jake walked into a scramble situation. Ramsey was a good addition for one year but we had nothing in the pipeline, They scrambled to get Richardson, For 2021 the developmental recruit that Jake brought in was Sullivan. (in 2023, he was a serviceable backup but did not stick around) For 22 they brought in Hilinsky to again fill the gap but he was too inconsistent, And also brought in Lausch who ended up starting last year. In 23 Bryant was brought in again to fill the gap.

At issue was that when Jake got here, the pieline was a shambleswith no one viable and during one of the most difficult times to be able to recruit for the most important position, Stop gaps needed to be emplyed and a couple were successful while others were not while we were trying to rebuild out QB room pipeline. For a program like ours since we are not getting guys off the top of the heap, it takes at least a couple years to get them to a point where they can be of service, The guys we brought in were just getting to that 2 year mark
You're excusing and hand waving away four years of offense futility. It's bizarre. Who is accountable for the 4 seasons of bad offense if not the OC or head coach? Standards have to be raised, and it sounds like they have been based on what we've seen over the past 2 weeks.
 

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In terms of bad weather games, it was only second to the Northwestern Michigan game later that year. Where it was a mix of rain snow sleet and everything else. And by the end of the game all the NU fans were still there and 95% of the soft Wolverine fans had left so we basically had the majority of the crowd to enjoy the win. We were late to get down to the field for the halftime show because it was taking too long to flip around our capes bc everyone’s hands were too cold. And when we were marching out of the stadium back to the buses I yelled to Jin “play the (cadence) sequence again” and he says back to me “Rick we can’t feel our hands” - stoic guy and the best drummer I played with, it was the only time in 4 years he ever gave something resembling a complaint. When I woke up the next morning I had scratches all over my hands (from drumming with frozen hands) but didn’t care one bit. Was lots of fun to beat them in the Big House.
I was there! An all-time memory.
 

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You're excusing and hand waving away four years of offense futility. It's bizarre. Who is accountable for the 4 seasons of bad offense if not the OC or head coach? Standards have to be raised, and it sounds like they have been based on what we've seen over the past 2 weeks.
Sorry but it was two years that were really bad (21 and 22), not four. And those years were a direct result of the pipeline he was left with. The portal as it has been over the last couple years did not exist, In particular NU's ability to bring in transfer QBs in order to fill in the gaps in recruiting were much more restricted than they appear to be now, Even so they they were able to bring in Ramsey and Bryant and with them, he put reasonable O's on the field. And in 23 he also showed that one of his recruits (Sullivan) was developing enough to potentially take the reigns.

As far as what is going on now, gotta imagine that Kelly required a significant dollar amount (dOSU coordinators have been getting paid more than many HCs and gotta imagine that it took something significant to bring him in, I have a hard time seeing that kind of dollars being available when Jake was hired. As far as how it pairs with our D, we will have to see.
 
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Sorry but it was two years that were really bad (21 and 22), not four. And those years were a direct result of the pipeline he was left with. The portal as it has been over the last couple years did not exist, In particular NU's ability to bring in transfer QBs in order to fill in the gaps in recruiting were much more restricted than they appear to be now, Even so they they were able to bring in Ramsey and Bryant and with them, he put reasonable O's on the field. And in 23 he also showed that one of his recruits (Sullivan) was developing enough to potentially take the reins.
What stats are you looking at? Bottom of the B1G constantly.
I think you’re so used to us being super bad that you’re accepting pretty bad.
 

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No, seriously, look at the points allowed by game that season:

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Woof.
And some people still wish Fitz was NU’s HC 😂

Him hiring JON should have been a fireable offense. Pat literally didn’t give a **** after 2020. He just mailed it in for a paycheck.

Thankfully, Braun is little like Fitz and nothing like JON (rhyming pun intended)
 
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Sure Fitz had the ability to make those decisions? The Kelly hire likely required a significant financial commitment that likely was not possible back then, Heck bringing in new players likely faced those same constraints
Lol. Now it’s that Fitz’s hands were tied and he couldn’t hire a great OC.

that just says he wasn’t the man for the job period.
 

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Again, look at what we had in QB room in development when Jake got here to replace McCall, We had a serviceable QB transfer for 2020 in Ramsey but that Covid year really handcuffed us in development and recruiting. In 2021 and 2022, the cupboard was pretty bare.
Lol. How many years was Bajakian here? So many excuses for Fitz/Bajakian. It’s the only thing you can do to defend the indefensible and the incompetence we saw on that side of the ball for x number of years.
 
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Because we were a D first team, It will be interesting to see what happens with Kelly. There is danger with the short (time) possession O for a D first team
Yeah. Thats the entire point. You can’t be truly competitive if you neglect one side of the ball and rest your hopes solely on one. Though we made a great attempt at it with Hank. Try being good on both sides and see what happens. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Can’t possibly have an offense that scores points without hurting the D. Ridiculous.
 
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And how many other programs are able to beat the dOSU's and Alabama's? Do you see any chance that NU is going to be able to recruit at that level?
Indiana did. And they were basically where we were two years ago. Except two years ago they were the losingest program in NCAA history. Now we are.

but now that they have shown us that we don’t need to be doomed to excuses and inevitable mediocrity, we are finally doing something about it. How exciting the times are right now for NU football!!! Finally, real hope that we can be something better than what we came to settle for for the past twenty five years.
 
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