I went from "what the hell does this even mean?!?" to thinking "This is POTY!!!!"
QB is NOT a Transfer Portal Priority, per KF on Dec 18. Jeremy Hecklinski appears to have passed Hank Brown on the Depth Chart.
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I went from "what the hell does this even mean?!?" to thinking "This is POTY!!!!"
I hate to keep disagreeing w/this play as its water under bridge, etc, yet maybe I'm in the minority here...watch this play all the way through, both OL whiff the block, this play at first glance was said to go for at least the first down and TL thought a TD. Yet, run this through...am I wrong here? Looks like it would've been blown up immediately or at least a yard or two short of line to gain...discuss...
I think the ball placement was so poor it pulled the receiver far enough off his mark it made the blockers look out of position. If the ball is placed on Moulton's inside shoulder and leads him back inside our double team easily seals the defender. As speedy of a defense as Indiana has I'm not convinced the secondary doesn't keep Kamari out of the end zone but I'm confident it's at least a game sealing first down.
I hate to keep disagreeing w/this play as its water under bridge, etc, yet maybe I'm in the minority here...watch this play all the way through, both OL whiff the block, this play at first glance was said to go for at least the first down and TL thought a TD. Yet, run this through...am I wrong here? Looks like it would've been blown up immediately or at least a yard or two short of line to gain...discuss...
The two OL only whiffed on the block because the defender was headed to where the ball was thrown, marked below by the Blue X. If the ball was delivered where it needed to go, closer to the Red X, the blockers would have had position, and the play would have been a sizeable gain.
I hate to keep disagreeing w/this play as its water under bridge, etc, yet maybe I'm in the minority here...watch this play all the way through, both OL whiff the block, this play at first glance was said to go for at least the first down and TL thought a TD. Yet, run this through...am I wrong here? Looks like it would've been blown up immediately or at least a yard or two short of line to gain...discuss...
This is Assuming the defender takes the same path, which he would have otherwise he runs into the two blockers. If the pass is on target and hits KM in the chest there’s virtually no way that defender is able to slide underneath the blockers to make that tackle. The poor pass led KM even further outside.
Without having a wide angle, there’s no way of knowing whether he gets all the way to the end zone, but I’m guessing it’s very close.
I hate to keep disagreeing w/this play as its water under bridge, etc, yet maybe I'm in the minority here...watch this play all the way through, both OL whiff the block, this play at first glance was said to go for at least the first down and TL thought a TD. Yet, run this through...am I wrong here? Looks like it would've been blown up immediately or at least a yard or two short of line to gain...discuss...
If the pass is good and numbers high and to the downfield side of the receiver then the receiver has plenty of time to read where the lone tackler has to go around the two blockers.
It would have been good for a 1st down and then the hawks can run 3 plays to take it down to :03 seconds and hopefully get a winning kick snapped from the center of the field
Looking towards the future....
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I hate to keep disagreeing w/this play as its water under bridge, etc, yet maybe I'm in the minority here...watch this play all the way through, both OL whiff the block, this play at first glance was said to go for at least the first down and TL thought a TD. Yet, run this through...am I wrong here? Looks like it would've been blown up immediately or at least a yard or two short of line to gain...discuss...
What you have to understand is #28 is stationary. 9 is to throw to him right there on that spot. The two linemen are setting up assuming that to be the case. 9 throws way out to the left and 28 tries to move to it but the pass was so freaking bad he couldn't get to it and then that Indiana guy slides out because he sees 28 going that way. Had Hank thrown the ball to the exact correct spot 28 is lined up directly behind Iowa's two linemen and it is off to the races at least for a first down.
Ok, all pissing matches and other BS aside.
I view this as a very good development. It means Hecklinski has been taking the reins and earning the spot.
I view this as a very good development. It means Hecklinski has been taking the reins and earning the spot.
Agreed. No offense to Brown, but I am so done with statue QBs. What Mark has shown is having the running ability/threat just takes so much pressure off of everything on the offense and gives one more for the D to account for. For example, our pass blocking numbers are phenomenal not just because of the OL, but because the DL knows they can't just tee off and leave wide open running lanes. I know Hecklinski isn't quite the runner Mark is, but it's enough of a threat and he has enough ability to do it that it opens up so much more in both the run and pass game. ANF podcast does a great job of explaining that.
Brown wasn't good at Auburn and looked lost in limited action here. It's a positive if he moved down the depth chart. He's been in the system for over a year now.
Agree with this. Hopefully Lester will focus on recruiting QBs with some running ability going forward. We have had non-mobile QBs for far too long.
Heck looks confident! Quick reads, quick release and athletic enough to scramble.
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From my neck of the woods. Leighton Jones' H.S. Would be a great get.
Great compare….albeit with limited data to work with…
hopefully Jeremy gets some game action in the next 4 games
Yesterday Iowa GM Tyler Barnes said he and Iowa feel good about where they're at in the QB room & that unless there's movement there, they'll stick with what they've got.
The more I look at it the more I feel less sick.
Appears the DT has it half way snuffed out, and by the time mouton catches it and makes a move, the DT likely wraps up KM’s fleeting legs for maybe a yard or two gain at most.
In yesterday's press conference, Kirk said that he’ll “never say never,” but it sounds like QB will not be a priority in the transfer portal.
Hope that this is true and it works out. Would be nice to have a qb behind center for more than one season.
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It seems like Tim & Kirk really like Jeremy & Hank. I wonder who QB3 would be?
Exactly. Like the folks on social media who say "Wal Mart makes their money on the backs of the poor", then a glance at their profile reveals them to be baristas at such selfless corporations as Starbucks.
Based on what KF said yesterday, Jeremy & Hank must be performing well in these practices leading up to the bowl game.
yeah, I think Lester knows a wee bit more about QBs than the "expert" Iowa fans
If Brown wins the spot, hopefully he can make us all forget that screen pass against Indiana.
Because, right now when I think of him, all I can think of is that pass.
#TeamHeck for now
Because, right now when I think of him, all I can think of is that pass.
#TeamHeck for now
It's a hard one to forget
Tim Lester said this on the screen call on 3rd & 5 w/ 2:06 to go in the game vs currently #1 Indiana: "It was there. It would've been a touchdown."
It was a play Hank Brown should have made. It would have given Iowa a 20-13 lead (assuming the PAT is good). It was an easy throw. The coaches were playing to win with a play that was perfectly set up & according to Tim Lester would have resulted in a TD.
The next play (on 4th & 5), of course, was a 42 yard missed Drew Stevens FG.
Tap or click on image once or twice for a LARGER view of the play that should have been a TD and a 20-13 IOWA lead:
If you like a challenge and strive to be the best, why not work hard to get better. Competition makes you better. Not to mention that Hecklinski is not that big. One big hit and #2's in the game.
The portal is for quitters or really good players looking for a better payday. When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
Back to this play, yes you can see that Moulton would catch the ball with two big blockers closer to the Indy player at the 22 yard line. Now if Moulton catches and turns and waits for that block, cuts the correct direction off the *** end of his blocker then he is clear to run. The Indy DBack at the 16 is man to man and out of the play at least for the hawks getting a first down. The only other indy player with a chance to make a stop is #6 at the 34 yard line who looks like he might be turning toward moulton.Yep.
Tim Lester on the screen call on 3rd & 5 w/ 2:06 to go in the Indiana game: "It was there. It would've been a touchdown."
Iowa would have then taken a 20-13 lead.
Let's face it. It was a play Hank Brown should have made. It was an easy throw. The coaches were playing to win with a play that was perfectly set up & according to Tim Lester would have resulted in a TD.
The next play (on 4th & 5), of course, was a 42 yard missed Drew Stevens FG.
Tap or click on image once or twice for a larger view.
With a reception that is probably 90% chance of at least a first down and then hawks gain 5 more yards on two running plays that center the ball and then snap the ball for the fg with 2 seconds and hawks have a walkoff huge upset. The hawks sometimes are just not that super smooth efficient team to make the crucial easy plays. Too bad
Even big , tall Nathan Chandler in 2003 could run pretty good, had good pocket movement and could escape the pocket, and once he got up to speed in 3 strides he looked like a load to take down. Watching replays of those games you see him tuck it and run really well.
Your thoughts are based off of Moulton catching that bad pass. Many are wondering like what Lester said, If the ball is thrown correctly, and if the blocks downfield at the 23 yard line work out then Moulton breaks to the outside and that DTackle doesnt tackle him short. And that DTackle still has to pivot 180 degrees.
Have no issue with Brown staying onboard if he continues to develop and fits into what the coaches want at that position. Love Kirk saying that he doesn't consider QB a need in the portal. A shift toward developing QBs already in the program seems a step forward as Kirk nears the end of his tenure.
it will be interesting to see who sticks around, that's for sure; players wanna play
Tim Lester on Jeremy Hecklinski:
“He’s a gunslinger. There’s not a window he doesn’t feel he can’t put the ball through. He’s made some unbelievable throws this season....I compare him to Greg Maddox. He has every pitch in the book. He can layer a ball, he can sidearm it in every slot. He does some really unique things.”
Here's 7 minutes of Tim discussing Jeremy & Hank:
“He’s a gunslinger. There’s not a window he doesn’t feel he can’t put the ball through. He’s made some unbelievable throws this season....I compare him to Greg Maddox. He has every pitch in the book. He can layer a ball, he can sidearm it in every slot. He does some really unique things.”
Here's 7 minutes of Tim discussing Jeremy & Hank:
It will be Hecklinski vs Brown for QB1. Lester has kept reps even for the two.
Jimmy Sullivan vs Ryan Fitzgerald for QB3.
Check this out & watch:
Jimmy Sullivan vs Ryan Fitzgerald for QB3.
Check this out & watch: