New Michigan Coach! Ultimate hypocrite!

[G- RUnit]

Blows off team in a decent bowl game days before game.

Are you kidding me?

Players leaving for portal… bad.

Coach leaving team to go to Michigan…good.

He does things the right way.
He’s a good man.
Smart hire!!

What would Bo say about this Michigan Man?

Guess he wasn’t an Utah Man after all. You players who stuck with me! Ooopsy.

Such hypocrisy and don’t want to hear another complaint about players entering the portal.

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

This has the look and feel of transfer portal tampering. Think about it. Whittingham suddenly quits being the coach of Utah, where he was king for as long as he wanted and could do just about anything there. Then, Whittingham resurfaced a few weeks later as the new HC of Michigan.

 

[Nyagentman]

Yes something smells rotten here

 

[Bagarocks]

Yes something smells rotten here

yea its called money

 

[CollegeSenior]

Gotta give credit to Michigan for playing the long game and getting Utah to name a HC in waiting five years ago and putting Utah in the position of having to choose *now* if they wanted to keep him or watch him leave.

 

[scarletrat99]

It's a very good hire given the timing, opposite of Moore in terms of coaching professionalism and maturity.

Co-eds and interns in AA can likely exhale now...

 

[jsol_05]

Blows off team in a decent bowl game days before game.

Are you kidding me?

Players leaving for portal… bad.

Coach leaving team to go to Michigan…good.

He does things the right way.
He’s a good man.
Smart hire!!

What would Bo say about this Michigan Man?

Guess he wasn’t an Utah Man after all. You players who stuck with me! Ooopsy.

Such hypocrisy and don’t want to hear another complaint about players entering the portal.

It's all about $$$$, bowl games mean nothing because you aren't playing against the 1st team. Everybody is look for the bag, coaches, players and administrators. This is the game either adapt or get run over. But let me ask you this, if another job was to offer you a 23% salary increase (50k to

Blows off team in a decent bowl game days before game.

Are you kidding me?

Players leaving for portal… bad.

Coach leaving team to go to Michigan…good.

He does things the right way.
He’s a good man.
Smart hire!!

What would Bo say about this Michigan Man?

Guess he wasn’t an Utah Man after all. You players who stuck with me! Ooopsy.

Such hypocrisy and don’t want to hear another complaint about players entering the portal.i

It's all about the $$$, bowl games are meaningless because you aren't playing against each other best players. Everybody is looking for the bag, coaches , players and administrators. But let me ask you this if another job was to offer you a 23% raise (50k to 61.5; 75k to 92k; 100k to 123k and 125k to 153k) what would you do. KW is going from 6.5 mil to 8 mil, tough to turn down. Sh_t what piss me off if that KW made 6.9 mill last year and his team won 10 games, we paid GS 6.5 mill for 5 wins. SMH

 

[Knight Shift]

Lane Kiffin says hold my beer, and the 10 cent bag. $13 mil per year and won't pay for a bag. $13mil does not go as far as it used to.

 

[G- RUnit]

It's a very good hire given the timing, opposite of Moore in terms of coaching professionalism and maturity.

Co-eds and interns in AA can likely exhale now...

But unseemingly and hypocritical. Is not dating coeds and interns the new standard of professionalism?


Just a continuation of everything wrong with college football. Might be the shortest “retirement in sports history.

 

[Knight Shift]

But unseemingly and hypocritical. Is not dating coeds and interns the new standard of professionalism?


Just a continuation of everything wrong with college football. Might be the shortest “retirement in sports history.

He did not retire. He was forced out.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

But unseemingly and hypocritical. Is not dating coeds and interns the new standard of professionalism?


Just a continuation of everything wrong with college football. Might be the shortest “retirement in sports history.

He never said he was retiring though. I thought he did also but it seems I was misinformed.

 

[rutgersguy2]

He was forced out at Utah. He didn’t leave voluntarily. They wanted to promote HCIW Scalley and they nudged him out. When he left he said as much and said this isn’t a retirement and that he was in the portal so to speak but didn’t know what the future held. Michigan just happened to be open up as well and I don’t to think Whittingham was their first choice but ends up being a solid one. He could’ve been out this season or coaching somewhere at a lower status school or as it turns out at a marquee job lol. Posted a bunch of this info in the coaching carousel thread.

 

[Phantom Clip]

He did not retire. He was forced out.

Correct. They wanted to turn the page and transition to the coach in waiting before he took another job. Kyle did not retire. He stepped downn

 

[RUGuitarMan1]

He was forced out at Utah. He didn’t leave voluntarily. They wanted to promote HCIW Scalley and they nudged him out. When he left he said as much and said this isn’t a retirement and that he was in the portal so to speak but didn’t know what the future held. Michigan just happened to be open up as well and I don’t to think Whittingham was their first choice but ends up being a solid one. He could’ve been out this season or coaching somewhere at a lower status school or as it turns out at a marquee job lol. Posted a bunch of this info in the coaching carousel thread.

Correct. He was the HC at Utah for 21 years, he was very good and in all likelihood had opportunities to leave for some higher profile HC positions and stayed at Utah. The difference between this situation and Kiffen’s situation is about as different as it can be.

 

[kupuna133]

He did not retire. He was forced out.

Funny how people think this was all arranged by Michigan behind the scenes. Michigan, much like Pedd State struck out on their first 3-5 options. Whittingham is a consolation prize when it comes to who their priority hires were. A good consolation prize but still a consolation prize.

 

[Knight Shift]

Funny how people think this was all arranged by Michigan behind the scenes. Michigan, much like Pedd State struck out on their first 3-5 options. Whittingham is a consolation prize when it comes to who their priority hires were. A good consolation prize but still a consolation prize.

Did you see Portnoy's take? Hilarious. I posted it in the coaching carousel thread.

From what I have seen, Whittingham seems like a decent guy that ran a clean program. He's too good for Michigan. Nothing against him, but hope he fails miserably and Michigan is on the hook for a large buyout.

 

[kupuna133]

Did you see Portnoy's take? Hilarious. I posted it in the coaching carousel thread.

From what I have seen, Whittingham seems like a decent guy that ran a clean program. He's too good for Michigan. Nothing against him, but hope he fails miserably and Michigan is on the hook for a large buyout.

Saw it hilarious. Portnoy knows very little about sports. But knows how to market himself and his company. And makes very good hires.

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

Funny how people think this was all arranged by Michigan behind the scenes. Michigan, much like Pedd State struck out on their first 3-5 options. Whittingham is a consolation prize when it comes to who their priority hires were. A good consolation prize but still a consolation prize.

Because Michigan cheats at every opportunity while yelling that everyone is out to get them. Michigan knows no depth to which they will go to win.

 

[kupuna133]

Because Michigan cheats at every opportunity while yelling that everyone is out to get them. Michigan knows no depth to which they will go to win.

Not saying they don’t cheat. But to think this a master class on the long game is next level ridiculous. Do you think all the coaches that they were interested in prior to Whittingham being contacted were in on it too? Too many moving parts for it to be tampering.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Not saying they don’t cheat. But to think this a master class on the long game is next level ridiculous. Do you think all the coaches that they were interested in prior to Whittingham being contacted were in on it too? Too many moving parts for it to be tampering.

I'm not sure what tampering there is regardless. Even if he didn't leave, they could have just hired him anyway just like any other sitting head coach can get hired if the hiring school pays whatever buyout is stipulated in the coach's contract. No conspiracy theory is necessary. Utah wasn't in the CFP either, unlike Ole Miss. Bowl games don't mean anything.

Timing is everything and this was just a fortunate opportunity that came up for Whittingham and Michigan's other options were turning them down.

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

Not saying they don’t cheat. But to think this a master class on the long game is next level ridiculous. Do you think all the coaches that they were interested in prior to Whittingham being contacted were in on it too? Too many moving parts for it to be tampering.

When it comes to Michigan, I put nothing past them. Whittingham was never on Michigan's radar. Like State Penn, they missed out on some of their top targets. When that happens, tampering becomes a real issue. A program like Michigan doesn't want to continue to look foolish in its search for a quality coach, so it may use back channels to sniff through lesser programs (non-power two schools) for options. Utah may have felt that pressure and decided to act before it was caught with its pants down. We may not know until years later.

 

[RU#1fan]

It's all about $$$$, bowl games mean nothing because you aren't playing against the 1st team. Everybody is look for the bag, coaches, players and administrators. This is the game either adapt or get run over. But let me ask you this, if another job was to offer you a 23% salary increase (50k to

It's all about the $$$, bowl games are meaningless because you aren't playing against each other best players. Everybody is looking for the bag, coaches , players and administrators. But let me ask you this if another job was to offer you a 23% raise (50k to 61.5; 75k to 92k; 100k to 123k and 125k to 153k) what would you do. KW is going from 6.5 mil to 8 mil, tough to turn down. Sh_t what piss me off if that KW made 6.9 mill last year and his team won 10 games, we paid GS 6.5 mill for 5 wins. SMH

What’s worse we are stuck paying inept Schiano that insane money for another 5 years. Idiot Hobbs ; the Gift that keeps giving.

 

[kupuna133]

I'm not sure what tampering there is regardless. Even if he didn't leave, they could have just hired him anyway just like any other sitting head coach can get hired if the hiring school pays whatever buyout is stipulated in the coach's contract. No conspiracy theory is necessary. Utah wasn't in the CFP either, unlike Ole Miss. Bowl games don't mean anything.

Timing is everything and this was just a fortunate opportunity that came up for Whittingham and Michigan's other options were turning them down.

Yep

 

[kupuna133]

When it comes to Michigan, I put nothing past them. Whittingham was never on Michigan's radar. Like State Penn, they missed out on some of their top targets. When that happens, tampering becomes a real issue. A program like Michigan doesn't want to continue to look foolish in its search for a quality coach, so it may use back channels to sniff through lesser programs (non-power two schools) for options. Utah may have felt that pressure and decided to act before it was caught with its pants down. We may not know until years later.

So the timeline is Sherrone Moore is fired at Michigan on December 10. Kyle Whittingham announces his retirement on December 12th. Michigan expresses interest in 3-5 other candidates. And they are then linked to Whittingham and they don’t sign a contract for 2 plus weeks. Okay.

Michigan upgrades at the head coach with Whittingham. But Kyle didn’t leave Utah because there may be a chance he gets the Michigan job.

 

[rutgersguy2]

So the timeline is Sherrone Moore is fired at Michigan on December 10. Kyle Whittingham announces his retirement on December 12th. Michigan expresses interest in 3-5 other candidates. And they are then linked to Whittingham and they don’t sign a contract for 2 plus weeks. Okay.

Michigan upgrades at the head coach with Whittingham. But Kyle didn’t leave Utah because there may be a chance he gets the Michigan job.

Even the timing of Michigan firing Moore was lousy as I've seen conspiracy theory stuff about that too. It would have been much better to get rid of him sooner and then they might have been able to get Campbell who would have likely taken Michigan over PSU. PSU was still waffling around at that time too. Campbell has been waiting on the Big 3 in the B10 for quite some time but the true midwest names of Michigan or OSU would've been top of the list for him over PSU.

 

[kupuna133]

Even the timing of Michigan firing Moore was lousy as I've seen conspiracy theory stuff about that too. It would have been much better to get rid of him sooner and then they might have been able to get Campbell who would have likely taken Michigan over PSU. PSU was still waffling around at that time too. Campbell has been waiting on the Big 3 in the B10 for quite some time but the true midwest names of Michigan or OSU would've been top of the list for him over PSU.

Exactly. The conspiracy is not that Whittingham left to utah be the coach at UMich. It’s that Michigan covered up for a hostile incompetent coach. Once the losses piled up they decided to get rid of him. If Sherrone was in the CFB playoffs we would never heard of the subordinate affair, the only fans girls and the multitude of other things he is now being accused of. The subordinate would have been paid off and the only fans account would have used an alias going forward. Agreed if they addressed the issues in the off season when they became aware they would have had better options.

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

So the timeline is Sherrone Moore is fired at Michigan on December 10. Kyle Whittingham announces his retirement on December 12th. Michigan expresses interest in 3-5 other candidates. And they are then linked to Whittingham and they don’t sign a contract for 2 plus weeks. Okay.

Michigan upgrades at the head coach with Whittingham. But Kyle didn’t leave Utah because there may be a chance he gets the Michigan job.

It's been reported that Michigan knew of Moore's affair with another UM employee weeks before his firing, but kept quiet until after signing day. This is why the list of possible candidates was precise right after Moore's firing. I should have never said Whittingham was never on UM's radar. Whittingham wasn't top 5 when the news broke. It's possible Utah knew of Whittingham's interest in UM and moved first to avoid looking unprepared. Even though Whittingham may not have been UM's top candidate, I'm willing to bet he saw Michigan as a bigger fish and, in turn, indirectly forced Utah to push him out. Whittingham putting himself out there makes him an easier coach to sign without having to pay all the buyouts.

 

[fsng]

Only thing Whittingham did wrong was not retiring as he originally planned. U of U had to give him a push so as not to lose Scalley to another program. Hard to blame him too much for having second thoughts about retiring, though.

Opinions seem mixed on whether Utah made the right call in retaining Scalley over Whit, especially since Whit will likely take at least a few top coaches from Utah, torpedoing the seamless continuity that a coach in waiting was supposed to provide. Think if he picks off Jay Hill from BYU all will be forgiven and right with the world for Utah fanbase.

Beyond that, this was a best case scenario for all involved. Michigan had higher targets that are far younger, but Whit was a solid choice once those names got erased off the big board. It immediately puts the brakes on its cliff-diving reputation and will be interesting to see what Whittingham can do with Blue Blood resources. Utah gets to give Scalley the keys without losing him to another program. Maybe they could have waited it out and hired him back, but who knows. And Whit velvet-parachutes into one of the top jobs in CFB instead of taking so much as a few months off.

What the heck is OP angry about, again?

 

[fsng]

It's been reported that Michigan knew of Moore's affair with another UM employee weeks before his firing, but kept quiet until after signing day. This is why the list of possible candidates was precise right after Moore's firing. I should have never said Whittingham was never on UM's radar. Whittingham wasn't top 5 when the news broke. It's possible Utah knew of Whittingham's interest in UM and moved first to avoid looking unprepared. Even though Whittingham may not have been UM's top candidate, I'm willing to bet he saw Michigan as a bigger fish and, in turn, indirectly forced Utah to push him out. Whittingham putting himself out there makes him an easier coach to sign without having to pay all the buyouts.

Any support for any of that more convincing than "hypothetical by a CU alum/fan?"

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

Any support for any of that more convincing than "hypothetical by a CU alum/fan?"

I did start at Colorado, but I'm a Rutgers grad and former player. I don't know the entire story about Whittingham and Michigan, more of my thoughts, but I will get some info on it from contacts in and around college at some point.

 

[kupuna133]

It's been reported that Michigan knew of Moore's affair with another UM employee weeks before his firing, but kept quiet until after signing day. This is why the list of possible candidates was precise right after Moore's firing. I should have never said Whittingham was never on UM's radar. Whittingham wasn't top 5 when the news broke. It's possible Utah knew of Whittingham's interest in UM and moved first to avoid looking unprepared. Even though Whittingham may not have been UM's top candidate, I'm willing to bet he saw Michigan as a bigger fish and, in turn, indirectly forced Utah to push him out. Whittingham putting himself out there makes him an easier coach to sign without having to pay all the buyouts.

Yea. Stories have been posted that said the timeline as either prior to summer camp or very early in season when UM was notified of the affair. But there has also been posts online that show Sherrone and the subordinate as early as last year around campus and at dinners/lunch/drinks. They were doing a horrible job concealing their secret. UM didn’t have a problem with Sherrone until they did. Not saying Whittingham is innocent of conspiring to get this job.All I’m saying is Whittingham was not an early candidate or the clear cut choice of UM. And UM didn’t convince through back channels for Whittingham to leave Utah.

 

[kupuna133]

Any support for any of that more convincing than "hypothetical by a CU alum/fan?"

New to the board? Doug doesn’t need an introduction to most on this board. He has bled more Scarlet than most on this board.

 

[Caliknight]

Coaches are the same as players now. All will leave at a moments notice for a better offer.

Great hire for Michigan which should be a surprised to no one.

PsU loss was awful this year. That was our one chance to beat them. No one on this board may ever see that now.

 

[fsng]

New to the board? Doug doesn’t need an introduction to most on this board. He has bled more Scarlet than most on this board.

Nope.

And wasn't questioning his loyalty to RU, as it is not relevant. But he's also a clear CU fan, which is relevant. Haven't seen anyone else suggest Whittingham tried to get pushed out, nor does it make any sense.

 

[kupuna133]

Nope.

And wasn't questioning his loyalty to RU, as it is not relevant. But he's also a clear CU fan, which is relevant. Haven't seen anyone else suggest Whittingham tried to get pushed out, nor does it make any sense.

More than an RU fan and CU fan.

And it was reported multiple places that Whittingham was encouraged to “retire”. Whittingham even said he will continue to coach.

 

[Knightmoves]

MeCheatAgain.

 

[MADHAT1]

My guess( now) Utah had expected Whittingham to retire after the season was over in 2024.
That saason was a disaster as far as Whittingham was concerned and everyone felt he should go out a winner , so plan was he'd retire , no matter what, after the 2025 season was over.
Utah then told Whittingham that they planned to give the job to Scalley and Kyle agreed it was best he bow out.
But since he had a great year in 2025 Whittingham decided he wanted to keep coacxhing so he just resigned hoping to find a HC job at a program that he would like .
Then along comes Michigan and he got his wish

 

[fsng]

More than an RU fan and CU fan.

And it was reported multiple places that Whittingham was encouraged to “retire”. Whittingham even said he will continue to coach.

Yes, he played. I know. Didnt say anything to the contrary, nor did I say anything negative about the man.

I also said the same about Whittingham being pushed out. The idea that he prompted Utah to push him out 'cause maybe Michigan is what makes no sense.

Tl;dr you and I agree.

 

[MrsScrew]

Haha

 

[RUPete90]

Funny how people think this was all arranged by Michigan behind the scenes. Michigan, much like Pedd State struck out on their first 3-5 options. Whittingham is a consolation prize when it comes to who their priority hires were. A good consolation prize but still a consolation prize.

This. Decent hire but not the splash they were looking for. Of course, Michigan men will never be so humble to admit that.