NIL support this year around $9 million

rutgersguy2

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Looking at the comments with Kratch asking questions, that’s a big number, assuming a good chunk is going to football.

If you’re at revenue share of 20.5M (13-15M for football) and in addition 9M NIL (assume a good chunk for football) that’s quite a budget.

I’m wondering if she’s doing what I mentioned in other threads where schools are redirecting some of the corporate sponsor money to the AD instead towards the players. That seems to be what schools are using as a workaround to get over the cap and those deals are passing the clearinghouse.
 

sct1111

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Looking at the comments with Kratch asking questions, that’s a big number, assuming a good chunk is going to football.

If you’re at revenue share of 20.5M (13-15M for football) and in addition 9M NIL (assume a good chunk for football) that’s quite a budget.

I’m wondering if she’s doing what I mentioned in other threads where schools are redirecting some of the corporate sponsor money to the AD instead towards the players. That seems to be what schools are using as a workaround to get over the cap and those deals are passing the clearinghouse.
Would be right out of the top 25 in terms of NIL for this year, close to that of Illinois and not that far off from Indiana.
 

koleszar

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Looking at the comments with Kratch asking questions, that’s a big number, assuming a good chunk is going to football.

If you’re at revenue share of 20.5M (13-15M for football) and in addition 9M NIL (assume a good chunk for football) that’s quite a budget.

I’m wondering if she’s doing what I mentioned in other threads where schools are redirecting some of the corporate sponsor money to the AD instead towards the players. That seems to be what schools are using as a workaround to get over the cap and those deals are passing the clearinghouse.
It's all for football. They made an all out blitz to get Schiano as much money possible for retaining and the portal as that's right around the corner. When they're done with this, they'll start up one for basketball. So, what they're doing is business donations are going to NIL, those will pass clearinghouse. A donation from you or I (although I do own a business) goes to the revenue share pot from the school as we can't pay players. (I can but I ain't no Daddy Warbucks) You have to be a legit business.

Remember also, this additional money is outside of the money Schiano raised. Compared to the last guy who raised next to $0 this is a wind fall. The girl done good in such a short timeframe.
 
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So does this mean the expectations are raised for next year?
Or will 6-6 be considered a success still?
If the numbers are true, you’d think expecations would go up. I thought that was probably coming anyway in the next couple years but if you’re getting good money then it’s hard to see how they won’t be raised. I’ve been mentioning that winning conference record as a benchmark.
 

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I assume this RNIL on top of the revenue share which is truly what we are competing with as all on a level playing field with Revenue share at $21mm and how schools are allocating that money to sports
 
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RU#1fan

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If the numbers are true, you’d think expecations would go up. I thought that was probably coming anyway in the next couple years but if you’re getting good money then it’s hard to see how they won’t be raised. I’ve been mentioning that winning conference record as a benchmark.
After going 15-39 in Conference games in 6 seasons getting to .500 in conference in any season would be a longer term goal. H*ll the majority of of us would be extremely happy with 4 wins in the B1G in each of the next 2 seasons.
 
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Be very careful using Kent as a source.
Good point. For what it is worth I heard Keli told Greg he will have all his money by January. Don’t know the amount but got impression she was doing very well with NIL sponsorships.

If this figure is true not having a 500 or better record in BIG should be deemed a disappointment.
 

koleszar

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Be very careful using Kent as a source.
It's been reported elsewhere their ultimate goal was 8 figures and while not there yet were very close. This, on top of the money Schiano has raised and we're now climbing into the middle of the B1G NIL wise. It works a lot better when you have the Coach, AD and President all moving in the same direction.
 

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Isnt Kent usually wrong on everything?
That would be unfortunate, I don’t know who he is and I’m alway wary of sources that aren’t mainstream CFB media. Since Kratch was responding back and forth with him I thought he might be legitimate.

But I will say if corporate sponsor money that formerly went to the athletic department is redirected towards players, its potentially believable.
 

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Looking at the comments with Kratch asking questions, that’s a big number, assuming a good chunk is going to football.

If you’re at revenue share of 20.5M (13-15M for football) and in addition 9M NIL (assume a good chunk for football) that’s quite a budget.

I’m wondering if she’s doing what I mentioned in other threads where schools are redirecting some of the corporate sponsor money to the AD instead towards the players. That seems to be what schools are using as a workaround to get over the cap and those deals are passing the clearinghouse.
That's not that great a budget when you compare it to other schools, more middle of the road. It will allow Greg to get better players but they are still not close to competing with top schools for players.
 
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rutgersguy2

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That's not that great a budget when you compare it to other schools, more middle of the road. It will allow Greg to get better players but they are still not close to competing with top schools for players.
We’ll never be that though as far as resources being at the top. If it’s 22M area for the football roster that’s very good.

There will always be some level of overachievement necessary. The acceptable achievement here also isn’t on the level of those top schools.
 

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We’ll never be that though as far as resources being at the top. If it’s 22M area for the football roster that’s very good.

There will always be some level of overachievement necessary. The acceptable achievement here also isn’t on the level of those top schools.
Correct, teams were spending in excess of $10+ million this year with the top teams well over $20m. Oregon and Ohio State were rumored to be $40m and $30m, IIRC. With the addition of revenue share the market gets that much more expensive now.

They just need to couple being able to get better players with this money with some quality coaches on D to overachieve.
Did you expect to be a top 5 NIL team? It's probably top 30.
Not even close to top 30 with this money but it's better than what they had since Hobbs did nothing to promote increased giving.
 

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Correct, teams were spending in excess of $10+ million this year with the top teams well over $20m. Oregon and Ohio State were rumored to be $40m and $30m, IIRC. With the addition of revenue share the market gets that much more expensive now.

They just need to couple being able to get better players with this money with some quality coaches on D to overachieve.

Not even close to top 30 with this money but it's better than what they had since Hobbs did nothing to promote increased giving.
Illinois was 25th with $9.3 million in 2025. 9 mill is pretty close to top 30 for this year.

 

RUTGERS95

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We’ll never be that though as far as resources being at the top. If it’s 22M area for the football roster that’s very good.

There will always be some level of overachievement necessary. The acceptable achievement here also isn’t on the level of those top schools.
my God, good thing we didn't have you in 1776,1812,1917,1941 and beyond. Never is a word you should ever utter and you could learn a thing or two about persistence.
 
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NickRU714

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That's not that great a budget when you compare it to other schools, more middle of the road. It will allow Greg to get better players but they are still not close to competing with top schools for players.

We finished 14th out of 18 teams in conference.
Presumably a middle of the road budget should at least raise expectations beyond 14th?

Nobody is looking to or expecting to compete with the top schools.
Just have more conference wins than losses.
I would hope a middle of the road budget removes the "money" excuse.
 

Jtung230

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GS will spend every NIL dollar. Lets see who we bring in and we’ll now how much NIL was raised.
 

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Pretty sure you have to deduct $2.5 million from the $20.5 million to pay for the increased number of scholarships for all sports this year.
Yes but there’s a proposal to raise the cap by that 2.5M next year and potentially add a luxury tax to whatever portion of that 2.5M you use.

 

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So does this mean the expectations are raised for next year?
Or will 6-6 be considered a success still?
You do know the Grifter spins every game as a success. On his ledger he’s 12-0 and many here are in agreement. Developmental program, miraculous accomplishment this year (yes he said that), injuries and more goalpost moving than one can keep track of.

He’d have been fired two years ago anywhere else. Success, Shelby’s arse.
 
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It's all for football. They made an all out blitz to get Schiano as much money possible for retaining and the portal as that's right around the corner. When they're done with this, they'll start up one for basketball. So, what they're doing is business donations are going to NIL, those will pass clearinghouse. A donation from you or I (although I do own a business) goes to the revenue share pot from the school as we can't pay players. (I can but I ain't no Daddy Warbucks) You have to be a legit business.

Remember also, this additional money is outside of the money Schiano raised. Compared to the last guy who raised next to $0 this is a wind fall. The girl done good in such a short timeframe.
Pat raised the uneven parallel bars.
 

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We finished 14th out of 18 teams in conference.
Presumably a middle of the road budget should at least raise expectations beyond 14th?

Nobody is looking to or expecting to compete with the top schools.
Just have more conference wins than losses.
I would hope a middle of the road budget removes the "money" excuse.
Hopefully but some of that is also going to be dependent on schedule.

Say we wind up with a schedule that includes OSU, Oregon, USC, Michigan and Indiana. These are all the big spenders in the conference and it's not out of the realm of possibility given some of our past schedules.

Do you expect that they'll win the other seven games to go 7-5 with middle of the road money?

We also don't know if raising this money in increasing amounts just to stay in the "middle" is sustainable either with our fan base and sponsors. That's an even bigger wild card.
 
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Knight Shift

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Hopefully but some of that is also going to be dependent on schedule.

Say we wind up with a schedule that includes OSU, Oregon, USC, Michigan and Indiana. These are all the big spenders in the conference and it's not out of the realm of possibility given some of our past schedules.

Do you expect that they'll win the other seven games to go 7-5 with middle of the road money?

We also don't know if raising this money in increasing amounts just to stay in the "middle" is sustainable either with our fan base and sponsors. That's an even bigger wild card.
Is it too much to ask for Greg to once overperform against a team with more resources? Scheme and coaching matters too
 

NickRU714

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Hopefully but some of that is also going to be dependent on schedule.

Say we wind up with a schedule that includes OSU, Oregon, USC, Michigan and Indiana. These are all the big spenders in the conference and it's not out of the realm of possibility given some of our past schedules.

Do you expect that they'll win the other seven games to go 7-5 with middle of the road money?

We also don't know if raising this money in increasing amounts just to stay in the "middle" is sustainable either with our fan base and sponsors. That's an even bigger wild card.

We know the future conference schedules.
It looks like 3 of the teams you listed.
All at home.

Side note: Will be interesting how people view the PSU game.
There is a lot of mocking of their empty recruiting class and coach search. How it's going to effect the program for years.
Does that mean the game should be an expected win?
Especially with our increased resources.

2026 Schedule:
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
USC
Nebraska
@ Wisconsin
@ Penn State
@ Maryland
@ Northwestern
 

NickRU714

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Nebraska was 7-5 but did not play Oregon or OSU. Schedule does matter.

True.
Nebraska went 4-5 with wins over NW, MSU, Maryland and UCLA.

Luckily we play 3 of those schools next year (NW, MSU, Maryland) plus Nebraska.

Seems the schedule is in our favor then?
 

Jtung230

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True.
Nebraska went 4-5 with wins over NW, MSU, Maryland and UCLA.

Luckily we play 3 of those schools next year (NW, MSU, Maryland) plus Nebraska.

Seems the schedule is in our favor then?
It would be better if the winnable games at home and more likely Ls on the road. Think we beat Minnesota this year at home. But after AK’s mysterious fumble in the PSU game, maybe not.
 

NickRU714

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Is it too much to ask for Greg to once overperform against a team with more resources? Scheme and coaching matters too

To me, it seems you cant have it both ways:
  1. A great coach
  2. Never beats a much better team.
What exactly makes them a great coach then?

People are quick to knock down other coaches "It's easy to be a elite coach with elite talent and resources".

Well its also easy to be a mediocre coach with mediocre talent and resources.