Kinston at James Kenan
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You must don’t know how RPI seeding works, Tarboro had one of the highest RPI in the state out of ALL classifications and would of beat any team in the SVC by 35
Nah we just a little 2A school
I can understand your biased opinions, features and predictions on your other venture (especially with a co host who is also a Kinston assistant), but why be so obvious on this site?There is no doubt JK fans overlook predictions 20 point wins ….
Deana is a huge Starmount fan but I do not ever recall seeing such posts from her about the Rams on this site nor the old site.
Predictions and trash talk are a staple on message boards but it is unusual to see a staff member participate in the manner you are.
Again, best of luck to Kinston and congrats on a great win. I didnt see the game but sounds as if they were exceptional.
Really was surprised how the D and O lines dominated JK that was not expected.
Y'all are completely missing the point. Nobody here is taking anything away from Tarboro. They are ELITE, and yes they would beat any team in the SVC by 2+ scores. That was never the argument.
The point was that Tarboro being a 2A monster does nothing to make the 3A side of the EPC a strong conference. Kinston's RPI was dragged down simply because the 3A portion of the EPC was NOT strong. The teams Kinston had to rely on for 70% of their RPI finished a combined 22-27. Weak OWP and weak OOWP from those teams crushed their RPI. You don't land at 14 because your conference is strong, you land there because your weekly opponents didn't give you any weight on paper. Tarboro has proved Tarboro is elite, as always.
I'm also thrown off by this. By all means @TreyScott_NC, support the teams covered by your network, but there's a way to go about it and the way it has been done lately comes off disrespectful. You ask for opinions and thoughts, then when they are given, you bash it because it doesn't match exactly what you say
Don't invite discussion and then act like anyone who disagrees is clueless. That's the part that is disrespectful... not the fact that you are showing support. Kind of a bad look for someone who runs a media outlet and is also involved with ncpreps.
Come on guys you guys are really taking all of this out of proportion big time. I have not said anything crazy in here at all. Go look before the game happened and see where I said anyone opinion was wrong or bashed them for it.I'm also thrown off by this. By all means @TreyScott_NC, support the teams covered by your network, but there's a way to go about it and the way it has been done lately comes off disrespectful. You ask for opinions and thoughts, then when they are given, you bash it because it doesn't match exactly what you say
Don't invite discussion and then act like anyone who disagrees is clueless. That's the part that is disrespectful... not the fact that you are showing support. Kind of a bad look for someone who runs a media outlet and is also involved with ncpreps.
The only comment I could see as taking as “clueless”’is when you are referring to little 2A Tarboro who is in the state championship and has already defeated the 3a eastern regional champs and the 5a eastern regional champs.
And I disagree. The 2A Tarboro totally made the EPC team STRONGER if Kinston doesn’t have that game versus Tarboro late in the season I could see a total different outcome from last night. Tarboro is 10x more physical than James Kenan and have better athletes. I totally respect James Kenan, I know they are a good team I personally think the SVC is overrated. The midway team was very weak, second year in a row they get manhandled at home by an EPC team in the playoffs…
I’m just having fun. I’m sorry my trash talk has hurt yall feelings and I really mean that. You can call me bias all you want that is fine but Kinston is actually my rival school, do I shed more light on them? Absolutely because that’s my primary job and I cover them exclusively but I try to be fair and honest in them, I predicted that they lose by 30+ on THIS message boards to Tarboro ( a team I don’t cover with them ) and I had to go back on that sideline after making that statement. I stick with my integrity of calling what it is.
I like to have fun and talk trash and this isn’t even trash talking I have been doing in here. It’s seems yall are a lil sensitive from being shocked last night and I personally think it comes from what I said BEFORE the game, you guys overlooked Kinston.
How about after the game when following a statement with three basketballs? Is that objective journalism or a shot at another posters comment?
This is where people should stop taking your post seriously. You really showed how much you dont understand RPI. This entire paragraph is the exact opposite of the facts lol. Tarboro's wins absolutely affects the seeding of all of their opponents. Just like the wins of your favorite school affected the seeding of their opponents.
Being so bold while being so wrong does take talent, though.
It was 100 percent trash talk. Just teasing @JK0713Tigers because that’s been his goto saying after every win…. I didn’t know the message boards was consider journalism. You guys are really hurt over me having a SMALL amount of trash talk.
It's crazy to think that people that are sports journalists aren't supposed to have favorite teams. What's the big deal in rooting for who you like while also reporting on other teams as well? What are you influencing or affecting by doing that? You are a reporter, and you are on the staff of this site. But you're still a fan, too. This section of the site is solely for fan discussion. Discussion is the literal definition of the word forum. When you are posting in the forums, you're posting as a fan, not as a staff member. Looks like a few people need to understand that. Lord knows, if I ran a high school sports forum, I wouldn't tamper down my feelings for SWE. And if people had a problem with it, well, not visiting the site is free
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I totally agree but I’m so damn glad you weren’t at our game last night posting basketballs after the game. I’d chase you all the way from Reidsville!! This sudden stop to the season is hell. You got another week of fun!
It’s all good. That’s what I love high school sports we all get passionate as we should, I’m on a high and they are still in shock and refuse to believe they overlooked Kinston. That’s just my fan opinionated opinion. If I was out writing articles about how overrated the SVC is or how JK overlooked Ktown I would totally understand but that not even the case.It's crazy to think that people that are sports journalists aren't supposed to have favorite teams. What's the big deal in rooting for who you like while also reporting on other teams as well? What are you influencing or affecting by doing that? You are a reporter, and you are on the staff of this site. But you're still a fan, too. This section of the site is solely for fan discussion. Discussion is the literal definition of the word forum. When you are posting in the forums, you're posting as a fan, not as a staff member. Looks like a few people need to understand that. Lord knows, if I ran a high school sports forum, I wouldn't tamper down my feelings for SWE. And if people had a problem with it, well, not visiting the site is free
Again JK fans it’s all love and respect. If you want me to be the great Deana King who I respect dearly you will be disappointed every time.
New drinking game.... take a shot everytime Trey Scott mentions Midway!
I don't get this talk overlooking talk one bit because I can tell you right now when brackets were being made EVERY top 8 seed was hoping Kinston would not get put on their part of the playoff bracket. EVERY coach and team of players did not overlook Kinston because literally watch the tape Kinstons offense speaks for itself and I don't know what got into the defense but holy cow they aren't the same defense from the regular season at all. I will say fans probably overlooked Kinston because they see the big 14 seed beside their name on the bracket and think its gonna be cake...... probably don't even know the athletes and coaches the Vikings got down there so I would take their thoughts with a grain of salt.
The eastern plains is arguably one of the best 3A east conferences in the state by far and I think Kinstons record reflected that. (Yes I know its a 2A/3A split) Kinston just wasn't clicking till it really mattered this year (Playoffs). I don't get the hate on the Swine Valley I think they are up there at the top, obviously not better than eastern plains conference but its not a cakewalk..... for sure HELD BACK by goldsboro and spring creek but its not a bad conference. Plenty of other trash conferences for 3A schools.
I had JK winning because if they could establish the run and NOT turn it over EARLY I think they could have controlled the game..... well the JK QB fumbled twice on 2 of the 3 opening drives and when your team scews up and you go to the sideline to watch Tyreek Copper and friends put on a clinic that takes it out of a kid. Also doesn't help playing catch up when you have a lot of kids playing both ways like JK, Kinston is pretty much 2 platoon and stayed fresh on offense and defense. Kinston had a gameplan and executed it perfectly! Congrats to them.
I don't get this talk overlooking talk one bit because I can tell you right now when brackets were being made EVERY top 8 seed was hoping Kinston would not get put on their part of the playoff bracket. EVERY coach and team of players did not overlook Kinston because literally watch the tape Kinstons offense speaks for itself and I don't know what got into the defense but holy cow they aren't the same defense from the regular season at all. I will say fans probably overlooked Kinston because they see the big 14 seed beside their name on the bracket and think its gonna be cake...... probably don't even know the athletes and coaches the Vikings got down there so I would take their thoughts with a grain of salt.
The eastern plains is arguably one of the best 3A east conferences in the state by far and I think Kinstons record reflected that. (Yes I know its a 2A/3A split) Kinston just wasn't clicking till it really mattered this year (Playoffs). I don't get the hate on the Swine Valley I think they are up there at the top, obviously not better than eastern plains conference but its not a cakewalk..... for sure HELD BACK by goldsboro and spring creek but its not a bad conference. Plenty of other trash conferences for 3A schools.
I had JK winning because if they could establish the run and NOT turn it over EARLY I think they could have controlled the game..... well the JK QB fumbled twice on 2 of the 3 opening drives and when your team scews up and you go to the sideline to watch Tyreek Copper and friends put on a clinic that takes it out of a kid. Also doesn't help playing catch up when you have a lot of kids playing both ways like JK, Kinston is pretty much 2 platoon and stayed fresh on offense and defense. Kinston had a gameplan and executed it perfectly! Congrats to them.
I was in the car riding home thank god. It was a great atmosphere of course and two very respectful group of well coached kids. Man I was pulling for yall @Otis1144 ! Looks like yall gave them everything they could handle
I thought we had pulled it out when we took the lead with 5 minutes to go. You got to give credit to Reidsville for not falling apart.
Man I was pulling for yall @Otis1144 ! Looks like yall gave them everything they could handle
@TreyScott_NC i appreciate all that you do and all that you bring to the board. I know it's all in good fun! Thanks for all the content that you put out.
Oh yeah for sure! One reason I love these boards is there so many people in here that know so much about HS football ( not being sarcastic )
I don’t believe there was any sign during the season that Kinston would be effective in stopping JK’s running game. Clearly the JK coaches, who are very good, didn't think so.
Kudos to Kinston for executing the game plan.
It’s tough to do but the JK crowd has to return and take their medicine.
Kudos to Kinston for executing the game plan.
It’s tough to do but the JK crowd has to return and take their medicine.
Point taken on the journalism reference.
I guess I am just different in thinking a staff member on a website should try and be impartial when replying to posters who disagree or something of that nature during a discussion. Only reference I have is the aforementioned Deana King with Starmount.
I usually refrain from posting on these boards and just enjoy seeing the mutual discussion and banter about NC High School football. I will say, I am a huge Kinston supporter and follow most of the surrounding teams in Eastern NC. I have not enjoyed seeing everyone jump on @TreyScott_NC because of his support of Kinston, when majority of the post referencing Kinston are negative. On these threads I have repeatedly seen Kinston teams be called "undisciplined", "not well coached", a "terrible program", and even "ghetto", but when they win a big game and there is someone there to support them, it is a problem. It is not right, especially since @TreyScott_NC is not even a Kinston fan! He is a Green Central fan which he has stated repeatedly. His comment was a reference to something that @JK0713Tigers has said every week after one of his rival teams season was ended. Nothing more than playful banter and simple trash talk, I hate to have this assumption but it feels like it is only a problem when Kinston has success, now the argument on whether anyone overlooked Kinston can be up for discussion, but it does feel like many on these threads and many people across Eastern NC, coaches included, do not respect Kinston as a program, which could be viewed as overlooking them.
comment was a reference to something that @JK0713Tigers has said every week after one of his rival teams season was ended. Nothing more than playful banter and simple trash talk, I hate to have this assumption but it feels like it is only a problem when Kinston has success, now the argument on whether anyone overlooked Kinston can be up for discussion, but it does feel like many on these threads and many people across Eastern NC, coaches included, do not respect Kinston as a program, which could be viewed as overlooking them.
Not me, I was pulling for KtownI usually refrain from posting on these boards and just enjoy seeing the mutual discussion and banter about NC High School football. I will say, I am a huge Kinston supporter and follow most of the surrounding teams in Eastern NC. I have not enjoyed seeing everyone jump on @TreyScott_NC because of his support of Kinston, when majority of the post referencing Kinston are negative. On these threads I have repeatedly seen Kinston teams be called "undisciplined", "not well coached", a "terrible program", and even "ghetto", but when they win a big game and there is someone there to support them, it is a problem. It is not right, especially since @TreyScott_NC is not even a Kinston fan! He is a Green Central fan which he has stated repeatedly. His
Supporting Kinston is not the issue. If he were simply a fan (of any team) and was posting the same things, I would not have replied at all. However, he is a staff member here, writes a few articles here and there (recent one on the Kinston QB) and makes predictions. It is simply my opinion that those types of rebuttals or "trash talk" if you will, is better served during his other media ventures where it is very obvious who he is catering to based on the sponsors and viewers.
I also find it very hard to believe that those that really know high school football in this area do not respect Kinston. I think this is their third trip to the finals in the last 10-15 years and they consistently field competitive teams year in and year out. I remember when that wasnt the case outside of a few years with Coach Gutshall in the early 80s, Lonnie Baker, Mike Stewart, Battle Holley and a few more I am leaving out. No, they dont have the tradition of a Tarboro, Wallace Rose Hill, Northeastern, Jacksonville, Hoggard, etc....but it is still a good program that is respected.
I think what might influence people in other areas of SENC is the fact that Kinston is in an area where high school football is just not very good. The other two schools in Lenoir County (North and South) have traditionally struggled big time and have had a revolving door of coaches. Jones Senior struggles have been well documented. Greene Central is hit and miss and could be considered mediocre. Ayden Grifton is in the same boat. Compare that with other counties in the general area (Onslow, Duplin, Craven, Sampson) and there is a huge difference in the attention and commitment to football. Check out the attendance at a Kinston game home or away. I attended a game at Kinston High last year in October and there were maybe 50 people in the stands counting the people in the press box and coaches in the crows nest. People who followed Kinston in the East Central primarily from Duplin County would point to their win/loss record over those four years while members of that conference when playing teams from Duplin County. Maybe two wins in four years?
I stand by my statement that the JK staff and players were not overlooking Kinston. I was way off on my prediction and that happens. Again, taking nothing away from what they did last night. Looking at the stats I am even more impressed. Best of luck next week.
I also find it very hard to believe that those that really know high school football in this area do not respect Kinston. I think this is their third trip to the finals in the last 10-15 years and they consistently field competitive teams year in and year out. I remember when that wasnt the case outside of a few years with Coach Gutshall in the early 80s, Lonnie Baker, Mike Stewart, Battle Holley and a few more I am leaving out. No, they dont have the tradition of a Tarboro, Wallace Rose Hill, Northeastern, Jacksonville, Hoggard, etc....but it is still a good program that is respected.
I think what might influence people in other areas of SENC is the fact that Kinston is in an area where high school football is just not very good. The other two schools in Lenoir County (North and South) have traditionally struggled big time and have had a revolving door of coaches. Jones Senior struggles have been well documented. Greene Central is hit and miss and could be considered mediocre. Ayden Grifton is in the same boat. Compare that with other counties in the general area (Onslow, Duplin, Craven, Sampson) and there is a huge difference in the attention and commitment to football. Check out the attendance at a Kinston game home or away. I attended a game at Kinston High last year in October and there were maybe 50 people in the stands counting the people in the press box and coaches in the crows nest. People who followed Kinston in the East Central primarily from Duplin County would point to their win/loss record over those four years while members of that conference when playing teams from Duplin County. Maybe two wins in four years?
I stand by my statement that the JK staff and players were not overlooking Kinston. I was way off on my prediction and that happens. Again, taking nothing away from what they did last night. Looking at the stats I am even more impressed. Best of luck next week.
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Stop lying, I never said the conference was weak, I was responding to a guy, I guess he was from Ayden-Grifton, idk, but he was talking about JKs schedule, and was talking about the SVC. And I pointed out to him that Ayden-Grifton had lost to Princeton. That's when you stepped in and wanted to compare conferences. And about Midway's offense, i said that they had been putting up numbers just as good as Kinston's offense. You don't have to lie to kick it!!
I did not lie one time… u need to stop it. You said Midway offense was just as explosive as Kinston before the Midway game. Like I told u 2 weeks ago it’s ok to be wrong sometimes we all are…
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Says the guy who makes only troll post. U been wrong every week. Talking how terrible teams are AFTER they win.He's a weird looking
Why I gotta lie? Screenshots don’t lie… you said Midway offense was just as explosive as Kinston
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They go missing when the screenshots come out @TreyScott_NC most of these people would rather go 0-10 than to see Kinston have a good season. It is ok, I just hope in the State Championship, everyone will root for the team representing the east no matter who it happens to be. @JK0713Tigers, you have given Kinston their props all year unlike most such as @DEFootball who spews horrible takes without any substance, but your assessment of the Kinston/JK just happened to be wrong and that's ok. You believed in your team as everyone should. Kinston just brought a Duplin County level of physicality last night, something I do not think JK was expecting.