Im not siding with the OP, but the whole "our team is young" is the dumbest argument and I hear it all the time. IT DOES NOT MATTER....because at least half of our best players for next year arent on the team right now, and half of the players we have on our roster that could help us in 2-3 years wont be here at that time.So what's the plan then? Start over with anotther retread? Cross our fingers and hope we win the lottery with a 1 in a million chance to hire a coach from the lower ranks like Indiana did?
The team is young... calm down already. PSU was a national contender a couple of months ago who mentally broke after Oregon. It's not like all their talent disappeared with Franklin. Do we have issues.... yes. They are fixable.
EJ will have to run wild because Iowa’s defensive scheme will likely shut down Lateef.We haven't beat Iowa at home in 15 years. But a few of those games, we had them down and beat ourselves. We've played better at home and on special teams this year. And I think our defense will rise to the occasion. This staff knew in the bye week that (1) it was going to be tough to win both of the next two, (2) Iowa at home was going to be the easier, and (3) if you beat Iowa most people will forgive losing to Penn State. So I think we'll have a good game plan with a motivated team ready to play well. The question I have going in will be how does this team score more than 20 points?
Fair enough, but I'm jealous of what Alvarez and what Ferentz have done with their teams. It's a foundation for continued success that we have not sniffed in a long while. We need to develop our young talent inside the trenches rather then skirt chase all of the country trying to fix it.Im not siding with the OP, but the whole "our team is young" is the dumbest argument and I hear it all the time. IT DOES NOT MATTER....because at least half of our best players for next year arent on the team right now, and half of the players we have on our roster that could help us in 2-3 years wont be here at that time.
Then even add that we have no less than 10 scholarship OL with 3+ years in the program, and cant even take a snap. Look at our RB room. Linebacker room....So add developmental questions and potential injuries onto NIL and transfers in and out, and you have the most worthless argument in existence for why being "young" matters.
lol…I love reading coping comments like this.This is the Iowa Staff. Only iowa fans have embraced being lame while we demand more.
Trev hired Rhule, not so much to win a ton, but to try and keep things "quiet", Rhule is a good guy, he is a good talker, he says the right things and can win JUST enough to keep things kinda okay, but not really.
Trev clearly got advice from other people about possible hires and you know things he heard turned him off from certain people, I bet he hear this about...
Cigs: Arrogant and a total ******* killer with no big time experience.
Of course you do, you are also stuck in (and have been forever) the same spot of rooting for a team that sucks.lol…I love reading coping comments like this.
Thank for giving me options - but what you wrote above that I bolder is exactly what I said we need to do. Sorry it was confusing.Go back to your 90's fantasy world, find an SEC team to root for, or accept the reality of who we are.
Always an EXCUSE a day after the game...So what's the plan then? Start over with anotther retread? Cross our fingers and hope we win the lottery with a 1 in a million chance to hire a coach from the lower ranks like Indiana did?
The team is young... calm down already. PSU was a national contender a couple of months ago who mentally broke after Oregon. It's not like all their talent disappeared with Franklin. Do we have issues.... yes. They are fixable.
"The team is young... calm down already............ Do we have issues.... yes. They are fixable." Same thing that we have been told for the past 20 years. We have been marginal at best since joining the B1G.So what's the plan then? Start over with anotther retread? Cross our fingers and hope we win the lottery with a 1 in a million chance to hire a coach from the lower ranks like Indiana did?
The team is young... calm down already. PSU was a national contender a couple of months ago who mentally broke after Oregon. It's not like all their talent disappeared with Franklin. Do we have issues.... yes. They are fixable.
Marginal, I don't know man. We are 59-71 since joining the Big Ten and haven't had a winning record in conference since 2016. We are below the margin in my opinion. Bottom half to bottom third of the conference. It's pathetic. Rhule is 10-16 overall in conference play."The team is young... calm down already............ Do we have issues.... yes. They are fixable." Same thing that we have been told for the past 20 years. We have been marginal at best since joining the B1G.
I agree with you. I fundamentally despise the NIL era of the game....nobody probably cares, but I do.Fair enough, but I'm jealous of what Alvarez and what Ferentz have done with their teams. It's a foundation for continued success that we have not sniffed in a long while. We need to develop our young talent inside the trenches rather then skirt chase all of the country trying to fix it.
Sure seems like something happened that hasn’t been made public. I don’t know who their heavy hitter boosters are but it makes me think Franklin must have pissed someone off badly.I wonder what made penn state snap after oregon? like if there was internal problem between franklin and the players...
losing is bad, but it's not like oregon is terrible
We’re pot committed now to Rhule more even than before. We’re married to him for at least 4-5 more years so whether you like it or not, you’re going to get to see if he can develop those recruits…or not. His first class was a last minute gap filler. This last class especially has some dudes who I believe will be pretty good. All we can do is wait and see. In fact our roster is very young.I agree with you. I fundamentally despise the NIL era of the game....nobody probably cares, but I do.
I agree with you a second time anyway, and I would just say that we have a ton of OL bodies, who were valued signees, and I think they, and us, will get a better return with a new coach vs more time. If you go through our roster, it’s sickening how many of those key names we heard about on signing day, that are still here waiting 2-3-4 years later with no real game snaps. They dont need more time, IMO. They need a coach to elevate them to the playing field. Both literal depth chart wise and definitely developmentally
losing by a couple point early in the season to oregon doesn't take one out of a NC race..but losing to northwestern at home seems like the players quit on Franklin..because they seem more talented then thatSure seems like something happened that hasn’t been made public. I don’t know who their heavy hitter boosters are but it makes me think Franklin must have pissed someone off badly.
Yes. Imagine Bama fan clamoring for more time for Mike Shula after their lost decade.So what's the plan then? Start over with anotther retread? Cross our fingers and hope we win the lottery with a 1 in a million chance to hire a coach from the lower ranks like Indiana did?
I wonder if last nights sodomy at pennst brought back memories for rhule?
Sandusky was his position coach and shared many a meal at the Rhule family dinner table, after all
Always an EXCUSE a day after the game...
Total excuse and rationalizationNot an excuse, just the truth. We had a lot of freshman playing against a team that was loaded two deep with talent and finally correcting the ship. Most of the expierence we had playing we've complained about for a few years. Rhule has the money now he didn't have so need to see what he can do with it. I think the O-line and D-line coaches need to be questioned though.
Fire the coach and your starting from scratch with the players and recruits you'd lose. Three years later you'd be calling for the same thing because your impatients would repeat when the team isn't exactly where you deamed it should be.
Total excuse and rationalization
We may have a lot of "young players" but if any of them were any good, they would be playing? Saying we have a young team implies that this staff is developing talent, and I simply do not think that is the case. I think we have a roster full of young players who they hope, maybe, possibly could be good players in the future. Sometime. This is how 6-6 teams are built.Im not siding with the OP, but the whole "our team is young" is the dumbest argument and I hear it all the time. IT DOES NOT MATTER....because at least half of our best players for next year arent on the team right now, and half of the players we have on our roster that could help us in 2-3 years wont be here at that time.
Then even add that we have no less than 10 scholarship OL with 3+ years in the program, and cant even take a snap. Look at our RB room. Linebacker room....So add developmental questions and potential injuries onto NIL and transfers in and out, and you have the most worthless argument in existence for why being "young" matters.
Take away Akron and HCU and year 3 looks just like year 1.Not at all. It just doesn't fit your agenda!
Im not talking Rhule. I am talking Donnie.We’re pot committed now to Rhule more even than before. We’re married to him for at least 4-5 more years so whether you like it or not, you’re going to get to see if he can develop those recruits…or not. His first class was a last minute gap filler. This last class especially has some dudes who I believe will be pretty good. All we can do is wait and see. In fact our roster is very young.
Damn if only the Head Coach and CEO of the program had some influence or responsibilities when it comes to the roster with 1 week left in year 3Not an excuse, just the truth. We had a lot of freshman playing against a team that was loaded two deep with talent
Well, according to Rhule, we won the portal this year. Didn’t you see all the portal additions having a great game against PSU?Damn if only the Head Coach and CEO of the program had some influence or responsibilities when it comes to the roster with 1 week left in year 3
With you besides the part I put in bold. Nebraska HS talent is meh at best. If even 2 of those guys go on to have an All-Conference season at a P4 program, I’ll be shocked.In my opinion, MCMR could be the guy. IF he grows a pair of balls, makes the staff changes that need to be made, by holding each position coach accountable for the results of their unit. College football is not a fricking frat party. When your paid 8-9 million dollars a year, YOU NEED TO PRODUCE RESULTS. It's a cut throat business. We all know that 2026 is going to be a very challenging year. He better get off his ***, make staff changes, DEMAND that the S & C program be gutted and rebuilt by people who know what they are doing. That means, Don is gone. The D line coach....gone. LB coach...gone. Butler, gone.
Junk the 3-3-5
New S & C program. ( Ours has to be the worst or at rock bottom in the B1G )
Hire a proven DC
Junk the pod cast crap and U tube
Devote your time to making sure every position coach is doing their job.
Figure out how to get more than 1 of the 14 in state prospects next year.
Yes MCMR could be the guy. With the right staff. With the right focus.
As it was they were going to get home at 3am. So yeah the plane was waiting. What was he gonna say? You saw it.And how about the land speed record on the post game presser. Rhule wanted the **** outta Dodge.
Maybe. It’s factual though.Total excuse and rationalization
Some are playing on defense. The obvious weak spots are in our lines. It would be questionable at best to throw true or even redshirt freshmen in at DT or O line.We may have a lot of "young players" but if any of them were any good, they would be playing? Saying we have a young team implies that this staff is developing talent, and I simply do not think that is the case. I think we have a roster full of young players who they hope, maybe, possibly could be good players in the future. Sometime. This is how 6-6 teams are built.
I had the Brahmer kid that plays TE at Iowa State ( he is a beast ) and Oakley that plays TE at K State in the back of my mind as in state talent that got away. Both of those kids could have helped us. I am sure there are more, somewhere. I agree 100% with the NFL coaches statement. It is not working out real well in Boulder ( BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH ).With you besides the part I put in bold. Nebraska HS talent is meh at best. If even 2 of those guys go on to have an All-Conference season at a P4 program, I’ll be shocked.
Also don’t think Bradden should be canned. Maybe after next year, but I can’t justify firing the guy coming in late to a room that’s not his, and coming from the NFL. Though, I have a particular gripe with hiring NFL coaches in this current landscape.
Speaking of Brahmer, any update on him since he got carted off the field a few weeks ago?I had the Brahmer kid that plays TE at Iowa State ( he is a beast ) and Oakley that plays TE at K State in the back of my mind as in state talent that got away. Both of those kids could have helped us. I am sure there are more, somewhere. I agree 100% with the NFL coaches statement. It is not working out real well in Boulder ( BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH ).
You just hit the nail on the head. Nebraska high schools produce some decent tight end’s. And that’s about it.I had the Brahmer kid that plays TE at Iowa State ( he is a beast ) and Oakley that plays TE at K State in the back of my mind as in state talent that got away. Both of those kids could have helped us. I am sure there are more, somewhere. I agree 100% with the NFL coaches statement. It is not working out real well in Boulder ( BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH ).
I thought Brahmer played the next week but I could be wrong.Speaking of Brahmer, any update on him since he got carted off the field a few weeks ago?
I don’t mind us recruiting Nebraska, but a decent faction of our fans act like Nebraska kids are what’s gonna get us back to the national title. This isn’t 1989 anymore. Rhule signed 23 of them his first 3 classes here, what have they done? Largely absolutley nothing. I don’t think stockpiling mid level Midwest talent is the path forward.
The Chicago Cubs were stuck in that purgatory for about 100 years.The fans sticking up for rhule are purely choosing to be optimistic. I’d say we are slightly better than year 1 and only because we have a few more play makers than year one. We are still poorly coached and player development remains non existent. But the fanbase pours in money and it does not matter the season results. There is no conditioning happening. The university gets your money no matter what.