Arkansas or Virginia Tech
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Correct.
In legal terms that means: coaching, consulting, motivational speaking, broadcasting, etc. Hell, he could run for political office and it would be sufficient. Appropriate isn't a level of coaching. He just can't go work as a bagger in a supermarket for example.
Yes it does...again I'm a corporate lawyer...I understand contract law
And you’re being your typical smug a$$hole self who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room.
There's plenty of people smarter than be on countless topics--I comprehend that--try it
I still believe there is more to this story yet to be revealed. Dismissing JF when they did put the school and the program in a worse situation than waiting until the end of the season. Why do that to yourself unless there was a compelling reason(s) other than winning a football game?
See everyone else firing their coaches...
It doesn't make sense to keep them to the end of the year. That's not going to save a recruiting a class or keep the current kids.
The way I look at it is, Franklin thought he deserved an extension, asked Kraft, didn't get it, then went over Kraft's head to the board, it got back to Kraft, now you've got an employee willing to go over his boss' head to get what he wants. I don't think Kraft fired Franklin for performance issues, necessarily, I think the die was cast before the season started. When PSU lost to Oregon in OT, in a white-out at home, whether said or implied, I think Franklin knew he was "on notice." When the wheels fell off the following week at UCLA, the die was cast. The loss to Northwestern was the "bridge too far," I think. By that point, Franklin evidently had "checked himself out" and knew his time as coach was over. I don't look at it as Kraft doing something stupid (in fact I'd say he made the very smart move), but rather that Franklin put him in that untenable position, especially with the very high hopes Franklin raised for this season.
I disagree. The ACC will be up for grabs, year in and year out. Win the conference or 11 games and off you go to the playoffs with unbridled optimism. It's not necessarily about winning a title. It's about THINKING you can.
One other element that I have no insider information on but that has been mentioned is that Franklin and Kraft were not on the same page with stadium renovations and that Franklin asked for money for NIL that Kraft did not have to give. I cannot confirm this, IF and I mean IF this is true then Franklin could very well have checked out even before the season as he did not think he could compete in the modern day arms race for talent. By all accounts, part of his current negotiations with schools that are interested in him is that they commit 30m in NIL/portal funds.
Yeah, I can't imagine how anyone who went to that could think of having him come back to the stadium. I guess people can wish the fans hadn't reacted that way, but this is sports and competition here. People don't enjoy being kicked in the teeth every week.
Not only will James be coaching in 2026, it will be at a higher salary than his $8 million per year at PSU - probably in the $10+ million range. The idea that he would accept less than $8 million at the new place just to "stick it to PSU" is absurd.
I don't see him doing well that far in the South.
Kraft does not want Diaz. Didn't like how it worked out at Temple. Plus that would be a step backwards after Franklin.
Agree. If he is hired at VT AND if he gets the 30m he is asking for as a condition of employment for roster acquisition he will be able to build a solid roster and be competitive. I am curious how many PSU players follow him to VT, if he takes that job. I think it is a perfect fit for him (though he may not think it). Frank Beamer did an excellent job there for decades and then after Fuente in 2005 it felll of the map. If the resources are invested, James will do very well in the DMV in recruiting, and he will be competitive in the ACC
I really don't see any major schools with current, or soon to be current, HC vacancies wanting BGJ. His reputation not only precedes him, it deservedly tarnishes him as well. The interesting part is that Narcissistic James probably doesn't even recognize the fallibility that lead to his termination.
Maybe that is because you are evaluating him using different criteria that the schools that are hiring? Of course, the qualifier you use (major) if entirely subjective but he is a player for the Auburn and Arkansas jobs. And if Pate is right that Norvell is a dead man walking despite what the FSU admin is saying, he may very be in the mix for the FSU job. Personally, I think he would be better at VT IF he is given that money he is making a condition for roster building. As many folks have said, there are many schools that would die for reliable 10 and 2 seasons (excluding anomalies like this and Covid years).
And making the playoff is great but no ACC team is winning a title with the expanded playoff
Not really. Penn State made it to the semis last year and was one drive away from playing OSU in the finals and it lost every "big" game along the way (according to Franklin detractors).. So, there are many variables at play here. Hell, Notre Dame lost both of its meaningful games and will still make the playoffs. Predicting the future is a fool's errand. With the right roster and the right path in the playoffs the teams that can win the CFP increases not decreases x3. But you don't think so. Duly noted.
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The champ will come from the SEC, Big Ten or ND...49 times out of 50.
We benefited from a flawed format. CJF will never get an easier path in his life.
And it absolutely decreases the odds of the ACC or Big XII winning. They now need 4 wins most years not 2. At best 3...the math alone decreases their odds.
Absolutely zero way for you to know this; the more you insist on predicting a future on the basis of the past, the sillier it sounds. And of course the "flawed" format was a one off and it will not happen again.
And no, the chances decrease mathematically only when you make the playoffs but increase 3 fold to make the playoffs where 12 teams can compete for a National Championship versus only 4.
Incorrect. The odds were better for Clemson to make a 4 team playoff and win 2 games than a 12 team playoff and win more games.
Look at the playoff projection today. I'm not sure why people refuse to accept this is an SEC/Big Ten/ND playoff with 3-4 others included to appease the smaller conferences.
Would you take a bet? I'll take those 2 conferences + ND every year and you get everyone else. 4 to 1 payout. I win I get 125...you win you get 500. After 2 decades do you think you'd break even or are you just trying to argue cause you're bored?
1. Again, incorrect. OSU only won the National Championship in 2025 because it was a 12 team playoff that allowed them to compete; if it were 4 like years past, they would have been left out as they had been left out in 2018 (which they would have won with Haskins). So, empirically, their chances increased with a 12 team playoff not decreased; in fact, in a 4 team playoff their chances would have been zero. That is just mathematically obvious.
2. That is not the bet.. You claimed that there was zero chance or your word "never" that a team like Virginia Tech could win the CFP. So, the bet is if any school save a B10/SEC + Notre Dame wins the CFP EVER you lose the bet. So, if FSU, Texas Tech, Clemson, Utah, BYU, SMU, or any future team belonging to the B12, PAC12, ACC etc. wins a CFP going forward , EVER, you lose. Stupid bet. Its just guessing. Revenue sharing, plus booster revenue, will have an unquantifiable outcome on how competitive teams will be going forward.
It is obvious given 2025 data, that, statistically, B10, SEC and ND are odds on favorites to win the CFP most years. What is unknowable is that they will do so indefinitely given any number of unknown variables.. Your word was "Never."
In any event, moving on.
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Indiana isn't contending for a title this year either. Being ranked highly and truly contending are different things.
Ohio State's chances increased. It helps the SEC and Big Ten as stated above. Not the others.
I said 1 in 50...we can make that bet...just need to win 2.
You're claiming their odds are better. Clemson won 2 in 10 years of a 4 team playoff. They won't win more than that let alone 2. And not just Clemson anyone outside those that matter. Hence the bet.
None of those teams will win.
In 20 years, you'll still say something absurd trying to defend this
Whatever;. first, you went from chances decrease in a 12 team, to OSU's increases because "they are in the B10". Your specific example was Clemson's chances increased in a four team playoff but now decreased in a 12 team playoff (by virtue of the fact they belong in the ACC),. How does this makes sense? Or Ohio State's chances increased in a 12 team playoff, while future FSU teams decreases. Why? Because one is OSU and the other is FSU. Its as if you think logos play the game.
This is what you said "No ACC team is winning a title with the expanded playoff" So, Clemson, FSU and Miami will never win a title, though they have in years past. Why will they not? Because they are in the ACC and no ACC can win a Championship. Why cant an ACC school win a championship. Because they are in the ACC. Nothing like circularity.
Why exactly would I bet on something that I am on record as saying is unknowable?
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You're not reading. I didn't say everyone's chances were worse. Words matter. It's not about logos. It's about a clear separation between the haves and have nots. Just like no one is picking the MAC to win a title.
Those schools will never win a title unless they move to the SEC or Big Ten and are prepared for the hard playoff run.
All bets are predictions and ideally educated ones. Why wouldn't you bet on it? The ACC won 2 titles in 10 years of a 4 team playoff and you claimed they have better odds now.