*****Southern vs Iowa Game Thread*****

TheGreatDivider101

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So just for comparison sakes- Brynn Speiser scored 7 points in 21 minutes yesterday on 3/11 shooting and she was 1/8 from 3. She did very little beyond that against an Omaha team that was not very good. Emilee Skinner played 0 minutes in Duke's loss to Baylor.

At least with southern - they were competitive and gave significant defensive effort.
Her first name is Jordan and Skinner was ill but I agree with your overall point.
 

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Yes, many 5-star recruits in the 2025 class are struggling to adapt to the College level:

Agot Makeer (#5) - 5 pts, 3 to, 33% (FG) - 19 min.
Brynn McGaughy (#14) - 4 pts - 12 min.
Jordan Speiser (#16) - 7 pts, 27% (FG) - 21 min.
Deniya Prawl (#17) - 2 pts, 16.7% (FG) - 22 min.
Kaelyn Carroll (#18) - 5 pts - 13 min.
Taliyah Henderson (#27) - 5 pts, 14 min
Leonna Sneed (#28) - 3 pts, 4 to, 14% (FG), 24 min.

Addie Deal will be fine. We need to be patient and support her.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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You know what - I am 50/50 on that. As I said she rewards seniors and say what you will O'Grady played pretty dang well last year all things considered. Ava did get some minutes early in the season after getting sick and looked rough. At some point you pick your best 8 and roll with it. If a player gradually improves to the point where they start getting more minutes like Ava did last year you adjust the lineup. You go look at her game log though and she got over 10 minutes in 15 games last year. It wasn't until the end of the season when she started to flash more in the minutes she was given. Fouls were also a major bugaboo for her last year, and still appears to be a bit of an issue.
All true, BUT as I said the 2 girls playing in front of her have proven over 4 and 5 years in college that they are complimentary players at best on offense. CCWright is not a look to score first point guard, so it would see that ERod and Deal need to be getting reps NOW before we get to the B1G season. While your comments about Ava are correct, you also have to wonder how much earlier she might have "flashed" had she gotten more PT in earlier games. If I remember she never stepped on the floor against UCLA last season
 
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You think Hannah goes to the 5 and Ava to the bench, like last year? I hope I'm misunderstanding you.
My bad - No I think the minutes at the 5 will be split between Ava and Hannah. Hannah isn't a ball handler and her 3pt shooting isn't good enough to keep her out of the lane. They will run some Hannah/Ava together, but both will spend most of their time on the block - and should.

I haven't seen anything from Hays that shows me she's ready for Big10 play. She will play sparingly at best. Seems to be out of position a lot and doesn't move end to end quick enough to play Iowa's style.
 
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Ava looked good in Iowa's road games against Oregon and Washington when Hannah was injured. However, the next seven games Jan basically sat her:

Northwestern Jan 28 - 0 minutes
USC, Feb 3 - 0 minutes
Minnesota, Feb. 6 - 0 minutes
Nebraska Feb 10 - 13 minutes
Rutgers, Feb. 13 - 2 minutes
tOSU,, Feb. 17 - 0 minutes
UCLA, Feb. 23 - 0 minutes

The next game, on the road at Michigan, Ava came in an saved our *** when Michigan went on a 13-0 and every player on the court looked hopeless.

I think Jan, for whatever reason, made a mistake not playing Ava more.
I remember this stretch of games. Then s he played in the Big10 tournament and NCAAs (and tore it up)........and I was like "where was she 2 weeks ago?"........Definitely an odd decision..........
 

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All true, BUT as I said the 2 girls playing in front of her have proven over 4 and 5 years in college that they are complimentary players at best on offense. CCWright is not a look to score first point guard, so it would see that ERod and Deal need to be getting reps NOW before we get to the B1G season. While your comments about Ava are correct, you also have to wonder how much earlier she might have "flashed" had she gotten more PT in earlier games. If I remember she never stepped on the floor against UCLA last season
For the reason you stated, I'd like Hays to stay in the rotation and get significant minutes. Although she's not there yet, we'll need her to contribute in the spring.
 

Bunsen82

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All true, BUT as I said the 2 girls playing in front of her have proven over 4 and 5 years in college that they are complimentary players at best on offense. CCWright is not a look to score first point guard, so it would see that ERod and Deal need to be getting reps NOW before we get to the B1G season. While your comments about Ava are correct, you also have to wonder how much earlier she might have "flashed" had she gotten more PT in earlier games. If I remember she never stepped on the floor against UCLA last season
Could have said the same thing about O'Grady last year and she ended up having a really good season. She had several games where fouls limited her game time availability. Maybe she flashes a little earlier, maybe not. I think she was doing really well until she got sick, and then the real game speed showed up at the beginning of the season just like Deal. I think Deal will get a few more minutes that Ava throughout the season and she could flash more at any point.
 

pablow

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Could have said the same thing about O'Grady last year and she ended up having a really good season. She had several games where fouls limited her game time availability. Maybe she flashes a little earlier, maybe not. I think she was doing really well until she got sick, and then the real game speed showed up at the beginning of the season just like Deal. I think Deal will get a few more minutes that Ava throughout the season and she could flash more at any point.
We never got our money's worth out of O'Grady. She had a fantastic short face-up jumper. She could have played long spells at 4 on offense with Hannah at 5. Sure would be nice if McCabe and Feuerbach revealed some hidden talents this year.
 

Bunsen82

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We never got our money's worth out of O'Grady. She had a fantastic short face-up jumper. She could have played long spells at 4 on offense with Hannah at 5. Sure would be nice if McCabe and Feuerbach revealed some hidden talents this year.
Personal opinion is of the 2 its McCabe. Her passing was fantastic, the defense has improved immensely - and her shot is still the best on the team, she just needs to be able to create just a little bit and not be a spot up shooter. I still stand by if she could do a drive to the lane and a pull up jumper it open her game up so much. The defenses would begin to hedge that move a bit more and give her a little more space. She is very close to taking off - but she has to be willing to take more shots and create some.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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Personal opinion is of the 2 its McCabe. Her passing was fantastic, the defense has improved immensely - and her shot is still the best on the team, she just needs to be able to create just a little bit and not be a spot up shooter. I still stand by if she could do a drive to the lane and a pull up jumper it open her game up so much. The defenses would begin to hedge that move a bit more and give her a little more space. She is very close to taking off - but she has to be willing to take more shots and create some.
This is why its so important that she doesn't play at the same time as Kylie. If she's in there with say Erod and possibly Deal you have another threat you can play opposite her who can drive and shoot the three. It would keep teams from just sitting on her . When she's defended she can't create her own openings for shots.
 

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Watching the game again. Feuerbach scored four of the first six on dribble-drives, almost picks off a straight steal---all in the first two minutes. A few assists that should have been hers if the lay-ups go in. Experienced leadership on the court.

Girl doesn't get enough credit---but that seems to be the trend for most players on the team one game in.
 

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Watching the game again. Feuerbach scored four of the first six on dribble-drives, almost picks off a straight steal---all in the first two minutes. A few assists that should have been hers if the lay-ups go in. Experienced leadership on the court.

Girl doesn't get enough credit---but that seems to be the trend for most players on the team one game in.
Feuerbach is especially disruptive on defense - that’s her special contribution although she can and will score and battle for rebounds on the offensive side.

Everybody wants to recite offense stats when analyzing a player’s value but Bluder and Jan know that having a player like Feuerbach is highly valuable in defending the JuJu Watkins type players in the B10. Hope like hell she stays healthy.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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Watching the game again. Feuerbach scored four of the first six on dribble-drives, almost picks off a straight steal---all in the first two minutes. A few assists that should have been hers if the lay-ups go in. Experienced leadership on the court.

Girl doesn't get enough credit---but that seems to be the trend for most players on the team one game in.
Personally I've never said Kylie or McCabe for that matter aren't valuable team players. i've said playing them at the same time is problematic to any offensive flow. Thats as clear as day....
 

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After 1 quarter
Iowa 15-14 over Southern

Tonight
16-14 Iowa State over Southern
 
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I still stand by if she could do a drive to the lane and a pull up jumper it open her game up so much. The defenses would begin to hedge that move a bit more and give her a little more space. She is very close to taking off - but she has to be willing to take more shots and create some.
You could say the same thing if a big could shoot 3s. Having it all is a rare bird…
 
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Bunsen82

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You could say the same thing if a big could shoot 3s. Having it all is a rare bird…
I am not expecting her to have post moves. Look at it this way and expansion of their game. Stuelke is beginning to take 3's, Heiden is working on her post moves. A pump fake drive to the line and jump shot or pass to the low post would be a very effective move.
 
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I am not expecting her to have post moves. Look at it this way and expansion of their game. Stuelke is beginning to take 3's, Heiden is working on her post moves. A pump fake drive to the line and jump shot or pass to the low post would be a very effective move.
I don't want to a hater because I think Stuelke is really good, but she has never been an effective/consistent outside shooter - at least in games at Iowa. If a 3-point shot isn't in her bag by now, I do not think it ever will be. McCabe is an incredible shooter, but in games at Iowa, I have not seen handles and speed that would suggest she can change that either against teams where it would affect the outcome of the game. Again this is not an attack on them, as very few players can do it all, and I am very happy they are on the team.
 

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I don't want to a hater because I think Stuelke is really good, but she has never been an effective/consistent outside shooter - at least in games at Iowa. If a 3-point shot isn't in her bag by now, I do not think it ever will be. McCabe is an incredible shooter, but in games at Iowa, I have not seen handles and speed that would suggest she can change that either against teams where it would affect the outcome of the game. Again this is not an attack on them, as very few players can do it all, and I am very happy they are on the team.
I agree do not see HS's game changing much and have not for two years.
 

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I agree with Tenacious. Be great at what you are great at. Now is not the time to change your game, per in season. Taylor needs to keep hunting “3’s”, not doing something that is not her strength. If I was guarding her I would have ”won“ my battle if she puts the ball to the floor and tries to do something she’s not great at. Same with Hannah. I “win” if she looks for the “3”. That’s why it’s a beautiful, successful, team game when all play to their strengths. That’s why it’s essential to have a well rounded roster. Should each player work to improve weaknesses? For sure, but never forget what they are great at and always hunt those opportunities.
 

Bunsen82

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I agree with Tenacious. Be great at what you are great at. Now is not the time to change your game, per in season. Taylor needs to keep hunting “3’s”, not doing something that is not her strength. If I was guarding her I would have ”won“ my battle if she puts the ball to the floor and tries to do something she’s not great at. Same with Hannah. I “win” if she looks for the “3”. That’s why it’s a beautiful, successful, team game when all play to their strengths. That’s why it’s essential to have a well rounded roster. Should each player work to improve weaknesses? For sure, but never forget what they are great at and always hunt those opportunities.
We must have watched different games, because I saw McCabe bring up the ball 8-10 times under full court press and had really good handles. If she can do that, why can't she drive and probe the middle of the lane. Maybe she struggles at jump shots. At the very least she should have some passing lanes. Also she had 0 turnovers all game.
 
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The Big Z

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We must have watched different games, because I saw McCabe bring up the ball 8-10 times under full court press and had really good handles. If she can do that, why can't she drive and probe the middle of the lane. Maybe she struggles at jump shots. At the very least she should have some passing lanes. Also she had 0 turnovers all game.
I don't know, why can't she?