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Knight Shift

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WhiteBus said:
A Blimpie in Highlands?? I bet the bread is hard as a rock after all these years!!!
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Had to look it up. Is it really a Blimpie if it's in a Welsh Farms Store?




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NBKnight

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BigEastPhil said:
Let’s hope Zinn forces credible personnel onto the staff to challenge Schiano for next year.

It’s been his way or the highway for way too long with minimal success / material regression this year.
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Wait. How can she force him to hire credible personnel if he is not allowed to fire people who are the problem?
 
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Phantom Clip said:
Interesting fact I saw. RU has 108 coaches/football staff. 3 of Gregs sons are included as well as 3 special assistants to the head coach, which are former coaches who worked for him, and a chief of staff. The most in the Big. By comparison Oregon in the same coaches/football staff has 67 total and Ohio State has 71. Rutgers actually has more staff than players. I don't know what these people are paid but thats a lot of staff. It's also interesting looking at the job titles.
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called lets hire a bunch of watered down coaches and staff vs. hire a few really good one's. He really doesn't want folks around him who could challenge his know it all persona (IMO). But he's changed afterall.. cept he and his record haven't.
 
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RUTGERS95

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Phantom Clip said:
Interesting fact I saw. RU has 108 coaches/football staff. 3 of Gregs sons are included as well as 3 special assistants to the head coach, which are former coaches who worked for him, and a chief of staff. The most in the Big. By comparison Oregon in the same coaches/football staff has 67 total and Ohio State has 71. Rutgers actually has more staff than players. I don't know what these people are paid but thats a lot of staff. It's also interesting looking at the job titles.
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is this true?

My God if true, it's such a bad look and further negative indictment of schiano
 
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WillieTheSilent said:
well.. I always look for the logic, the rationale, which would make something seem logical if looked at from a certain perspective.

Now.. this is totally unfounded speculation.. but what if the discussion was not just "I want to fire X", but I want to fire X and Y, Z. And it was the Y and/or Z that were objectionable? In that case both sides could be correct.. GS in firing DC and Zinn for saying, "No, I cannot agree to that.. not without some more thought at least.." or maybe.. "we cannot afford that".

It has to be something other than ignorance or stupidity, right? Surely there must have been something more to it.

Hmmm.. another possibility... Zinn and Tate want Schiano out so they can pick their own replacement.. someone familiar to them like how tate selected Zinn.. no exec search for him.. but GS still has support among donors... and if they can keep the bad DC doing bad things, maybe this season will be such a disaster that that support would disappear.

Could it be something that Machiavellian?
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Yes this could be the scenario. Keli knows that Schiano already hired and fired Robb Smith twice before. Now a third time. Probably thinking Greg doesn’t know WTF he is doing. Like many think.
 
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Phantom Clip said:
Interesting fact I saw. RU has 108 coaches/football staff. 3 of Gregs sons are included as well as 3 special assistants to the head coach, which are former coaches who worked for him, and a chief of staff. The most in the Big. By comparison Oregon in the same coaches/football staff has 67 total and Ohio State has 71. Rutgers actually has more staff than players. I don't know what these people are paid but thats a lot of staff. It's also interesting looking at the job titles.
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Send Greg’s kids out to coach HS for a few years. You learn better in your own, not Daddy’s coattails.
 
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Redrich66 said:
Send Greg’s kids out to coach HS for a few years. You learn better in your own, not Daddy’s coattails.
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The number and difference is shocking.. but as for his sons, don't you think building a resume here can help do what you suggest? That number is nuts.. gotta DOGE that... Department Of Greg Efficiency.
 
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NBKnight said:
Wait. How can she force him to hire credible personnel if he is not allowed to fire people who are the problem?
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Besides the fact that he can’t hire any Coaches who are worth their own salt, he makes the same mistakes over and over again. Yet the stubborn pig headed Coach Schaino is always right. Here’s how the conversation with Keli might have played out:
Greg: Keli, I want to fire our Defensive Coordinator Robb Smith
Keli: Greg, didn’t you hire and fire Robb Smith on 2 different occasion before?
Greg: Yes I did.
Keli: Greg, do you know WTF you are doing ?
 
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RU#1fan said:
Besides the fact that he can’t hire any Coaches who are worth their own salt, he makes the same mistakes over and over again. Yet the stubborn pig headed Coach Schaino is always right. Here’s how the conversation with Keli might have played out:
Greg: Keli, I want to fire our Defensive Coordinator Robb Smith
Keli: Greg, didn’t you hire and fire Robb Smith on 2 different occasion before?
Greg: Yes I did.
Keli: Greg, do you know WTF you are doing ?
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Greg might reply:
The reason he was hired the first time was he looked like a coasch that would help Rutgers win . Because with Smith as DC Maine boasted one of the top defenses in the FCS.
I brought him in as the special teams coordinator and outside linebackers coach.
. During his tenure leading the special teams units, the Scarlet Knights' Special Teams ranked first nationally in blocked kicks with 31. The 2010 team led the nation in blocked punts followed by the 2011 team finishing 2nd in blocked punts. Throughout those seasons the Scarlet Knights Special Teams ranked fifth nationally in punt and kickoff returns for touchdowns

After I left Robb was made the DC by Kyle Flood and The Rutgers 2012 defense was a historic one w. The Scarlet Knights defense ranked fourth in the nation in points allowed per game (14.2), sixth in rushing yards allowed per game (95.2), and tenth in total defense allowing 311 yards per game
Robb left Rutgers to join me in 2013 at Tampa Bay as my LB coach

Robb was Arkansas' DC in 2014 and with Smith as DC the Razorback defense found success finishing in the top ten in scoring defense (19.2) and total defense (323.4)
In 2015 his defense finished the season ranked 12th nationally and 2nd in the SEC in rushing defense

Returning to Rutgers under me , Smith led a defense that gained 19 turnovers in 2020, most in a season for the team since 2012 when he was previously RU defensive coordinator
In 2021, Rutgers held opponents to 52-for-162 on third down (32.1 percent), the 11th-best percentage nationally following the regular season.

In 2022 Rob left for Duke and during his one season at Duke, Smith's defense held opponents to 22.1 points per game. Before Smith's arrival, the Duke defense gave up 39.8 points per game. The 2022 Duke defense had a turnover margin of +16 which ranked 2nd nationally.

So Robb Smith had a record of success that made him a good candidate for the DC position, sadly he didn;t live up to my expectations of him so far, but the season hasn't ended yeat and there's still a little time left for him to prove he's a capable DC .
Madhat is trying to convince me to switch him to Special Teams Consolidator next year, if I don't want to let him go, because he might be better there than as RU's DC in which he's showing what he achieved in the past isn't the type of DC he really is and being a special teams might be where his coaching talent fits better.
 
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