Agree, but that's assuming he doesn't get snatched up by Florida or LSU (or possibly OU or FSU or fill in the blank) first.
Rhule to Penn State
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Agree, but that's assuming he doesn't get snatched up by Florida or LSU (or possibly OU or FSU or fill in the blank) first.
Assuming OU shites the bed this year (remainder of the schedule is brutal), do they wait until next year to can Venables, due to the number of openings?
I wonder how many retreads we see this year.
I wonder how many retreads we see this year.
If that's the case, then he can get ******. I wouldn't ever play around with that ****.
It is always about money. When someone says it isn't they are not being honest. (Kiffin has said whether he leaves Ole Miss for LSU or Florida will not just be about money. I think he will pick the school where he has the greatest chance to win, but money will be a factor.)
I'm looking around wondering who are all the "can't miss" candidates for these open jobs? Expectations have risen so high for "name" programs that almost no human being can meet them. The list of candidates is super underwhelming.
Before Rhule was hired there were many on this Board that wanted coaches like, Monken, Mullin, the KU coach, even the now fired coach at Syracuse. I know Indiana has done great with an old coach, Cignetti, but instead of getting another retread like Rhule I would like to see the Huskers hire a young coach. Will Stein and Brian Hartline are Offensive Coordinators at Oregon and Ohio State. They both have been with teams that win. It is a risk but so is taking on another established coach with a slightly above fifty percent winning record. The stars aligned for Nebraska when they got Tom Osborne. No one would have ever guessed back then that a man who played quarterback at Hastings College, played safety for a couple of years with the Redskins came to Nebraska to go to grad school and work as an assistant coach would ever become a coach who would retire with a record of 255-49-3 record. I am not living in the past. College football has changed so much since 1997 but hiring a coach with an average winning record is only going to lead to predictable results. To paraphrase Dennis Green "They are who their record says they are".
It is, for the most part, a total guess.
That is why AD's are scared to fire dudes that go .500 (the lame iowa coach) because what if things get worse, and why they are scared to keep dudes that go .500 (the lame iowa coach) because now you created this "Well, winning 7 games is okay" mentality.
That was my point. Assuming Urban and Saban are off the table. Get past that and who do you have? Quite a few names that aren't much of a step up from Rhule, if any, and certainly don't have the AD relationship and alumn factor going for them.
I would love for Nebraska to take a chance on a young and up and coming coach who shows a lot of promise but the big donors at Nebraska will never let the AD and administration do this.
Schools like Indiana had nothing to lose so they took a chance on a coach from FCS James Madison who was a proven winner and look what happened, instant success but Nebraska has everything to lose and they will never take that chance.
Schools like Indiana had nothing to lose so they took a chance on a coach from FCS James Madison who was a proven winner and look what happened, instant success but Nebraska has everything to lose and they will never take that chance.
I'd take Mullen in a heartbeat. Monken is hard to judge too harshly since Army does have unique recruiting challenges. Otherwise, the current crop of experienced head coaches isn't that great unless you include the ones just or about to be fired. A younger guy is probably the bet most will take.
Urban and Nick and Nick is too old. I think they both have lost the fire in the gut to do it.
Monken was on my list. I was pretty skeptical of Leipold. I stated multiple times that I would be okay if they hired a young lower level coach who was winning.
Rhule --> PSU doesn't compute. Being actual buddies with the AD immediately complicates things. Then there is the idea of hiring a guy who currently coaches in your conference and the evidence suggests he is still figuring out how to win in that conference (although signs are positive). You either hire a proven winner (how many times have we heard that), or an up and comer. Rhule has built two programs and coached in the NFL. He was an up and comer a decade ago. Franklin to Rhule would have to be viewed as a slight downgrade replacement at present.
Unless they woo a heavy hitter with a semi trailer of dough, expect a guy like Drinkwitz from Mizzou.
Franklin and Kelly are quite a few steps up from Rhule
So far Matt has done and said the right things. It has been reported that Matt has the support of at least two of the members of the Board of Trustees. He has been honest about his feelings for Ped State and Kraft. Only two people know how serious PSU is about possibly hiring Matt. Matt and Dannen. Due to the provision in his contract that requires Matt to put the AD on notice if he speaks to another school. People make a lot of assumptions. They assume due to the friendship between Matt and Kraft that Matt is going to be the hire. Maybe that is why he WON'T be the hire. And Matt has to know, as bat shite crazy as NU fans are, PSU takes that to a whole different level as far as expectations. I am not convinced A) Matt will be offered the job B) Matt would take the job if offered C) that this whole episode is more about a longer and better contract extension at NU. You take that job, your taking on another level of pressure and expectations. At NU Matt can rebuild the program at a more reasonable rate. Following Franklin who won 70% of the games he coached, and Joe Ped is no laughing matter. What that fan base needs is the same wake up we got after we fired Frank. I think some candidates will pull back a little bit when they realize that if they do not win right away that fan base will turn on them. I predict Brady will be the hire.
Well, considering they just fired Franklin, not sure how he's relevant. Kelly just got fired from a top tier school with a very similar winning percentage to Franklin. I guess I'll give you that Kelly might be an easier sell to the fans than Rhule. But I have a feeling getting LSU's discarded coach who had a similar record to the guy they just fired won't sit well with many of them either.
I am in the camp who couldn't care less which way this goes, if he leaves or stays. The upside if someone new comes in, there will be a lot more hanging onto every word he says like power football, I formation, bring the fullback back, we take what we want, we have the best fans in the world, the Nebraska way and so on and on, Sure some of it is repeat but it will be new and fresh - again.
Just win games. I am convinced in my own little mind that Nebraska has a lot going for them but money isn't one of them compared to the big boys of NIL. I also would personally be interested in a coach who was successful for several years at a lower division school or a school that is not known for great football like Duke was before Elko even though he was only there for two years. I wouldn't be married to the thought a new guy would have to come from D 1 ranks but I would prefer they be a head coach and not a coordinator. That's just me.
Just win games. I am convinced in my own little mind that Nebraska has a lot going for them but money isn't one of them compared to the big boys of NIL. I also would personally be interested in a coach who was successful for several years at a lower division school or a school that is not known for great football like Duke was before Elko even though he was only there for two years. I wouldn't be married to the thought a new guy would have to come from D 1 ranks but I would prefer they be a head coach and not a coordinator. That's just me.
No chance he goes to Penn State. PSU is aiming bigger - he would be a disappointment and a Franklin 0.5. That being said, his wife is from my small hometown (I knew the family when I lived there) - I am really pulling for him as your coach! I cheer for Nebraska every Saturday but 1
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You sick ***** may be aiming higher, but who knows if you can get that. LSU & Florida are better jobs than Pedo St. They might need to act fast to not make Kraft look like an idiot. Elko should be the highest on their list as that guy is legit.
Classy reply. Look, I grew up pretty close with Matt's wife's family. I definitely am pulling for the guy and want the best for him, but I also do not want him to be the next PSU HC.
Why would Elko take a demotion?
Urban is off the table. He doesn't respect schools that fire 9 win coaches....
I understand what you are saying but what does Nebraska have to lose? We are literally one of the embarrassing programs of the last 20 years and still sell-out. It is obvious our fans don't care about the product but instead the culture of gameday. It will eventually stop when enough people die but success of the AD doesn't have anything to do with winning... not hiring Cignetti was a huge mistake for any team...he has 16 straight winning seasons and won 11 games twice with James Madison, who was in the sun belt, not FCS. Trev made a bunch of mistakes in his short time at NU, Rhule was one of them...he probably realized it and left his alma mater for a chance to have another head coach hire before he is fired.
Agreed. This is our best chance to unload him with no financial cost to us. That Minnesota game may have screwed everything up.
Could be wrong or could be right. At this point I'm not even thinking about it. I'm actually a fan of Rhule and hope he does well. I just dont worry about stuff like that now.
Holla
He may want to go there but NO WAY is he or has he been offered the position.
Your'e only looking at the coaches that you think are available or are available right now. There will be plenty of coaches available in the near future and by the end of the year.
I think Penn State is going to regret whoever they get. Kiffin to Florida or LSU?
Agree! I will add…can whoever is here fix the Offensive and Defensive lines to compete in the Big-10?? Why is this so hard??
You school deserves zero class replies and it should probably be worse. There isn't a shittier fan base than PSU and it should make you sick that Paterno's kid is still affiliated with PSU athletics. They should have given you guys the death penalty.
Oh I agree with you, but A&M is a cult and Elko doesn't seem to fit those weirdos either. I'd actually be pissed if PSU got a good coach because they deserve nothing. That fan base is awful and I feel bad for any traveling fan that has to go there.
If C, then why would you even want him? Don't let your *** hit the door on the way out Matt. This shouldn't even be a question.
Yeah, you're spot on there. Although, he was at aTm for 4 years as their DC before he went to Duke and then he came back. So, maybe it suits him more than one would think?
The coaching candidate pool is weak af.