Read the whole thread, or feel free to look it up. But most teams defer. If you have a great offense, take the ball. That kinda leaves Iowa out, dontcha think?What's the stats on it across the college football universe?
Read the whole thread, or feel free to look it up. But most teams defer. If you have a great offense, take the ball. That kinda leaves Iowa out, dontcha think?What's the stats on it across the college football universe?
Giving IU 7 on the first drive when they scored 20 for the whole game had nothing to do with it?I'd say a blocked FG return for TD and an easy missed FG, a throw that literally bounced off our receiver's chest and was picked all had way more to do with what happened in that game.
The INT has nothing to do with the kickoff.IU getting a quick 7 after the Grono int on the very first possession. Do you not remember?
So what happens if we kick off and they march right down the field and score? We are not a good come from behind team.On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
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Same thing that happens if we go 3 and out, punt, and they march right down the field to score on their first possession.So what happens if we kick off and they march right down the field and score? We are not a good come from behind team.
Still if you go 3 and out you're taking a few minutes off the clock. As to where they march right down and score and take 6 minutes off the clock that's most of the 1st quarter that we won't have much time to score so we're down 7 after the 1st quarter.Same thing that happens if we go 3 and out, punt, and they march right down the field to score on their first possession.
If being down by 1 TD is a game-ender, your team is in serious trouble.
There are a lot of fans here who have a serious case of KFz Stockholm syndrome.
You're kidding, right?Still if you go 3 and out you're taking a few minutes off the clock. As to where they march right down and score and take 6 minutes off the clock that's most of the 1st quarter that we won't have much time to score so we're down 7 after the 1st quarter.
Time is a factor in a game azz hole.You're kidding, right?
How bout we put in 10 offensive linemen, form a circle 3-5 yards around the QB holding the defense at bay so we can run as much time off the clock as possible!
Admittedly I am in favor of deferring because I think that the kickoff coverage and defense are 2 of the biggest strengths of this team. Get a stop and another strength, punt returns comes into play setting up a short field for the offense.Arguments both ways, obviously, but the reasons I like Iowa starting with the ball:
1) Good punter. If opening drive goes nowhere, we can typically still pin them back inside their 25.
2) Being in control of direction in 2nd half, particularly 4th quarter (wind, end zone with stadium enclosed and/or student section, etc).
3) Phil Parker halftime adjustments. Iowa is a great 2nd half defensive team. Don’t know numbers but my guess is that Iowa does considerably better against 2nd half opening drives compared to game opening drives.
Well they did have to receive it to throw the pick, did they not?The INT has nothing to do with the kickoff.
I think it speaks to relative strengths. Which unit is more likely to come out ahead on any given drive, or have disaster strike? The offense or defense? It seems to me like MG needs time to settle in.So what happens if we kick off and they march right down the field and score? We are not a good come from behind team.
Shhhh your factually-inaccurate pessimism isn't needed here today.Against a decent opponent? I'd guess it was during the Hayden Fry era when Iowa actually had an offense on a regular basis.
And suppose Iowa gets the ball to start the second half and marches down the field and scores using 6 minutes off the clock? That leaves the opponent less time to score.Still if you go 3 and out you're taking a few minutes off the clock. As to where they march right down and score and take 6 minutes off the clock that's most of the 1st quarter that we won't have much time to score so we're down 7 after the 1st quarter.
Probably a dumb superstition on his part!On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
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We need wide receivers not wide droppers. First drive always follows the standard run, run, pass, and then punt.On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
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How many times has Iowa went down and scored on an opening drive? **** you're dumb.And suppose Iowa gets the ball to start the second half and marches down the field and scores using 6 minutes off the clock? That leaves the opponent less time to score.
And suppose Iowa scores at the end of the first half, giving them 2 scores without the opponent touching the ball? Could be a huge momentum swing.
BTW….6 minutes is not “most” of a quarter.
Yet another reason to defer to start the game.How many times has Iowa went down and scored on an opening drive? **** you're dumb.
I suppose we could start a petition and send it to Kirk.What's the stats on it across the college football universe?
I remember when Hayden would sometimes choose direction when winning the toss and kick off both halves. Reggie Roby kicks a touchback, which put the ball at the 20 then, and the strong defense would often give the weaker offense good field position. People thought he was nuts at the time, but it worked pretty well.Rutgers says hi!
But against Indiana, PSU, Oregon, and USC, defer to the second half. And if you have to, kick off both times to possibly improve field position. Against PSU you had to kick off to them to start the game with a freshman qb at Kinnick, at night.
This makes sense. As long as you've got #1, unless someone makes a mistake you likely won't give the other team better field position than if you had kicked off, even if you go 3-and-out. Touchbacks now getting spotted at the 25 matters, too.Arguments both ways, obviously, but the reasons I like Iowa starting with the ball:
1) Good punter. If opening drive goes nowhere, we can typically still pin them back inside their 25.
2) Being in control of direction in 2nd half, particularly 4th quarter (wind, end zone with stadium enclosed and/or student section, etc).
3) Phil Parker halftime adjustments. Iowa is a great 2nd half defensive team. Don’t know numbers but my guess is that Iowa does considerably better against 2nd half opening drives compared to game opening drives.
Worked pretty good today.On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
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I can’t remember the last time seeing us come out and mix it up like that. Damn!
Iowa has a hard time playing from behind, they proved it wrong against PSU, but it did work yesterdayI can’t remember the last time seeing us come out and mix it up like that. Damn!
Not yesterday.We need wide receivers not wide droppers. First drive always follows the standard run, run, pass, and then punt.
Plus you get the wind in the 4th quarter. Kirk must think he’s smarter than every other coach in the country. I think it’s ego at this point.IMO you almost ALWAYS defer. Especially Iowa. Defense is your strength…put them out there first.
So I was surprised by the amount of cushion Minny d backs were giving our receivers on that opening drive. Every one of those were just easy pitch and catch 7-10 yard gains. Which begs the question I think most have wondered forever why has this been so hard for us?Not yesterday.![]()
How many major bowls and conference titles has he won? Playoff appearances?Yeah because there just wasn't enough success with it for those 20+ years.
Are you guys all brand new to Iowa football or something?
Right but then the other team gets the wind in the 4th quarter.I really hadn't considered wind. I've been shaking my head because we start slow. I don't like the other team getting the ball to start the second half but theoretically putting the D out there is our best unit so that should be the same as deferring in the first half.
we scored but not sure it was the best plan. we ended up putting more of our better plays on film while grinding it out length of the field. would've been better off if we had deferred, 3 and outed minnesota, got the ball back at minnesota 35 via their poor punter plus wetjen, and scored with 3 handoffs to moulton.Worked pretty good today.
We get it. You think KF is a crappy old egotistical coach who should retire or be fired now. About right?How many major bowls and conference titles has he won? Playoff appearances?
Lolol.. Your doing that same thing posters do here. AFTER seeing the result of the play, THEN you get to critique if it was a good call. The ONLY time you'd call that field goal from 66yds is when you have a kicker who can make that, (and we do) and in the last couple of seconds of a half. Out of 100 different outcomes we got the ONLY one where they block it, the ball actually goes backwards, (which it almost never does), it goes right to a defender on one bounce, (which it almost never does) he fields it cleanly and scores. It would have made no difference if it was from 58yds, or 66 given the same crazy things that had to happen, and all happened on one play. Remember also when a coach calls a play he expects the execution to be solid. If the guy doesn't break right up the middle he never gets a hand on that ball.You are 1,000% correct. KF tried to explain why he's started taking the ball in his Tuesday press conference, but it was the usual gibberish that made no sense at all. Unless you have a dynamic offense, or the weather conditions are a factor, ALWAYS DEFER. In Iowa's case, deferring puts your best unit on the field first, the defense. It gives you a good chance to gain the field position advantage from the get-go. The defense can make better use of the adrenaline rush at the beginning of the game than can the offense. And, of course, you are assured of getting the ball first to start the second half, immediately after you've made halftime adjustments.
There is NO sane, rational argument for Iowa to win the toss and take the ball. None. Zero. Zilch. Taking the ball is as stupid, as ignorant as trying a 66-yard FG with 2 seconds left in the half. Of course, once KF has a few years of experience under his belt, maybe he'll figure it out.
I just want him to actually use facts instead of feelings to prove his point when he talks down to those of us who question Kirk.We get it. You think KF is a crappy old egotistical coach who should retire or be fired now. About right?
I wasn’t critical of the FG attempt at all.Lolol.. Your doing that same thing posters do here. AFTER seeing the result of the play, THEN you get to critique if it was a good call. The ONLY time you'd call that field goal from 66yds is when you have a kicker who can make that, (and we do) and in the last couple of seconds of a half. Out of 100 different outcomes we got the ONLY one where they block it, the ball actually goes backwards, (which it almost never does), it goes right to a defender on one bounce, (which it almost never does) he fields it cleanly and scores. It would have made no difference if it was from 58yds, or 66 given the same crazy things that had to happen, and all happened on one play. Remember also when a coach calls a play he expects the execution to be solid. If the guy doesn't break right up the middle he never gets a hand on that ball.