On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
KF needs to stop receiving the opening kick
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On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
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Great Pyr. Great breed.On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
Hawks? Just win. Go Hawks.
Seems like starting with the opening drive starting with Indiana game we have had interceptions that have led to opponents scoring. I am a proponent of deferring but I see both sides. Regardless, especially with what lies ahead in the season we need to get the "turn over bug" or" 3 and out" out of our system. And we need some change on 2 point conversions but...............not on this thread.
well the, it appears that the Hawks are due - keep playing the same lotto numbers. And a 100yd ko return TD is a great way to start a game.On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
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But against Indiana, PSU, Oregon, and USC, defer to the second half. And if you have to, kick off both times to possibly improve field position. Against PSU you had to kick off to them to start the game with a freshman qb at Kinnick, at night.
IMO you almost ALWAYS defer. Especially Iowa. Defense is your strength…put them out there first.
Kirk was asked this week and he said he was back to taking the ball like he did for 20 some years after softening on it for a few years.
He concedes there are pros and cons that his staff points out but said he is going back to his original philosophy.
The best reason is to make sure you have wind in 4th qtr...so if it is windy..fine. otherwise listen to Lester and woods.
He concedes there are pros and cons that his staff points out but said he is going back to his original philosophy.
The best reason is to make sure you have wind in 4th qtr...so if it is windy..fine. otherwise listen to Lester and woods.
Yeah because there just wasn't enough success with it for those 20+ years.
Are you guys all brand new to Iowa football or something?
Deferring is the obvious/ practical choice for Iowa, therefore they’ll do the opposite.
Just do a clear-eyed analysis each year and determine which unit is best and let that guide the decision. In recent years the defense has been top ten while offense has been bottom- feeders...easy call.
I would guess that 90% of coaches defer..maybe higher.
I guess this is kf showing confidence in his offense.
That's what I thought. And then the Orange Bowl happened.
I'm pretty sure Kirk's decision on kickoffs is not going to be influenced by us posting here.* Fans can swear they will never attend another Iowa game until KF changes his kickoff policy (we've read many of those re: other Kirk stuff). That never changes anything and won't change anything for the final ten years of his Hawkeye coaching tenure.
*- We do have a right to our opinions, which is what this place is all about.
*- We do have a right to our opinions, which is what this place is all about.
I'm on a new theory that KF believes we will get better field position by kicking and let the defense stop them to start the half. The wind thing makes sense though.
His desire to have the wind in the 4th quarter makes sense if the weather is really a factor for the game. That does play into Iowas style. But the best teams/coaches take full advantage of the “score before halftime and then score again coming out of half.” Look at the chiefs, patriots, bama…. If you can put up 10 or 14 unanswered points going into and coming out of halftime, it’s a total back breaker!
that said, I have zero confidence that Iowas offense could consistently pull that off. But at least we’d be taking away the other team’s chance to do that to us. Thankful PP has rarely let that happen - which might be part of KFs thinking…I guess…
I’d rather get our best unit on the field to start the game and set the tone…which is 99% of the time our defense. Frustrating!!
that said, I have zero confidence that Iowas offense could consistently pull that off. But at least we’d be taking away the other team’s chance to do that to us. Thankful PP has rarely let that happen - which might be part of KFs thinking…I guess…
I’d rather get our best unit on the field to start the game and set the tone…which is 99% of the time our defense. Frustrating!!
Funny how Andy Reid has the best QB in football and still elects to take the ball in the 2nd half. We threw a pick in the IU game that gave them 7 on the initial drive as well which looking back was the difference in the game. There is zero justification for him to continue to do it. Start the other team at their own 25 and let your defense get a stop.
Getting or deferring the Opening Kick is extremely overblown.
Well it’s basically cost us 1 game and put us in the hole in the Penn St game as well. But sure.
I really hadn't considered wind. I've been shaking my head because we start slow. I don't like the other team getting the ball to start the second half but theoretically putting the D out there is our best unit so that should be the same as deferring in the first half.
I mean, you don't know what would have happened if we deferred.Well it’s basically cost us 1 game and put us in the hole in the Penn St game as well. But sure.
If Indiana and PSU both score on opening drives, it's all the same.
Now on our first possession after they scored on opening drives, if we turn it over?
It would be worse.
In the NFL, teams that win the coin toss overwhelmingly choose to defer the opening kickoff and the data backs up why.
Win Percentage Breakdown
• Teams that defer the opening kickoff win 52.5% of the time.
• Teams that receive the opening kickoff win 49.0% of the time
While the difference may seem small, it’s statistically significant over hundreds of games. The strategic advantage of deferring lies in the potential for a “double possession”: scoring before halftime and then receiving the ball to start the second half. This can swing momentum and create scoring opportunities that are harder to match.
Trend Over Time
• Before 2008, teams almost always chose to receive.
• By 2014, over 70% of coin toss winners were deferring
www.sharpfootballanalysis.com
Win Percentage Breakdown
• Teams that defer the opening kickoff win 52.5% of the time.
• Teams that receive the opening kickoff win 49.0% of the time
While the difference may seem small, it’s statistically significant over hundreds of games. The strategic advantage of deferring lies in the potential for a “double possession”: scoring before halftime and then receiving the ball to start the second half. This can swing momentum and create scoring opportunities that are harder to match.
Trend Over Time
• Before 2008, teams almost always chose to receive.
• By 2014, over 70% of coin toss winners were deferring
Receive Or Defer: Does Either Provide An Advantage? | Sharp Football
Does it matter more if NFL teams choose to receive the opening kickoff or defer to the second half?
www.sharpfootballanalysis.com
In the NFL, teams that win the coin toss overwhelmingly choose to defer the opening kickoff and the data backs up why.
Win Percentage Breakdown
• Teams that defer the opening kickoff win 52.5% of the time.
• Teams that receive the opening kickoff win 49.0% of the time
While the difference may seem small, it’s statistically significant over hundreds of games. The strategic advantage of deferring lies in the potential for a “double possession”: scoring before halftime and then receiving the ball to start the second half. This can swing momentum and create scoring opportunities that are harder to match.
Trend Over Time
• Before 2008, teams almost always chose to receive.
• By 2014, over 70% of coin toss winners were deferring
Receive Or Defer: Does Either Provide An Advantage? | Sharp Football
Does it matter more if NFL teams choose to receive the opening kickoff or defer to the second half?
He usually always takes the football first although there have been times where he choose to kick it.
On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
agree with thatHuh?Well it’s basically cost us 1 game and put us in the hole in the Penn St game as well. But sure.
On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
IU getting a quick 7 after the Grono int on the very first possession. Do you not remember?
If it works, it works, bud.On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
I'd say a blocked FG return for TD and an easy missed FG, a throw that literally bounced off our receiver's chest and was picked all had way more to do with what happened in that game.Well it’s basically cost us 1 game and put us in the hole in the Penn St game as well. But sure.
You are 1,000% correct. KF tried to explain why he's started taking the ball in his Tuesday press conference, but it was the usual gibberish that made no sense at all. Unless you have a dynamic offense, or the weather conditions are a factor, ALWAYS DEFER. In Iowa's case, deferring puts your best unit on the field first, the defense. It gives you a good chance to gain the field position advantage from the get-go. The defense can make better use of the adrenaline rush at the beginning of the game than can the offense. And, of course, you are assured of getting the ball first to start the second half, immediately after you've made halftime adjustments.On opening drives against P4 teams, Iowa has taken 14 plays for 16 yards and 2 INTs. Zero points.
There is NO sane, rational argument for Iowa to win the toss and take the ball. None. Zero. Zilch. Taking the ball is as stupid, as ignorant as trying a 66-yard FG with 2 seconds left in the half. Of course, once KF has a few years of experience under his belt, maybe he'll figure it out.
I'm not guessing. This is KF showing his foolish stubborness. There is no logic, there is no evidence, there is no sane rationale for Iowa taking the ball first. It's absolute idiocy. Put your best unit on the field, the defense, stuff the opponent, and get the ball in good field position for your offense. And know that you'll be taking the ball to start the second half. There is EVERY reason for Iowa to defer, barring some bizarre weather, and absolutely NO REASON for Iowa to take the damn ball. This is just another infuriating act of stubborn malfeasance by the dean of college football coaches.
Fine. But the Iowa head coach should, because it is a key factor in winning and losing.
Against a decent opponent? I'd guess it was during the Hayden Fry era when Iowa actually had an offense on a regular basis.