Ferentz is the winningest coach in B1G history
A good nugget for all the B1G fans who proudly root for this league around the clock
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A good nugget for all the B1G fans who proudly root for this league around the clock
Ferentz has had a great run at Iowa and they've averaged over 9 wins per year over the past 10 years if you exclude the shortened covid season. They're not competing for championships, but the program is a model of consistency. As you said, that is the ceiling as it would be for 95% of the programs out there and only a small handful of programs have a better record over that timeframe, but it's also a high floor with only 2 losing seasons in 20 years. Still, there are a lot of Iowa fans who want more, because every fan wants more. They have only had Nebraska's number because they've been a much better program overall. They're 9-1 vs both Nebraska and Minnesota over that timeframe and Nebraska has only had 2 winning seasons over the last 10 years. A lot of teams have had their number.
The mistake was anyone believing that he could do the same at Nebraska. This is Nebraska - the place where mediocre coaches come to die.
Ha! So sad!
Does he also have the most Big Ten losses?
He literally made that iowa head coaching gig a middle management job at Union Pacific. Just show up on time, don't miss work, always make sure to sing happy birthday when on of the "team" members gets a year older...basically just waiting for that magical day of retirement.
Then about 2 years after retirement, no one at Union Pacific even remembers that he worked there.
I remember most fans being fairly confused at his firing. So youre revisionist history
You are just guessing when it comes to thinking Rhule would have more wins under his belt if he would have stayed longer at Baylor. There is no way of proving it because he left. I think he is what his record shows he is. Hasn't disproved in Lincoln so far.
Let's get to the three seasons Matt Rhule hangs his hat on.
2015 Temple (his breakout year) 10-4 Lost to #9 Notre Dame, South Florida, #19 Houston (Conference Champ.) and Matt Campbell's Toledo (Bowl) Beat an unranked Penn State and #21 Memphis (all ranked opponents are listed)
2016 Temple 10-4 Lost to Army, Penn State and Memphis (all unranked) and the team lost to Wake Forest in a Bowl with Ed Foley coaching. Beat the only ranked team they played that year #19 Navy (conf. champ.)
2019 Baylor 11-3 Lost to the only ranked teams they played that year #10 OU in Waco, #6 OU, in OT (conf. champ.) and #5 Georgia (Bowl) Was the Big 12 down that year? I can't remember, but Texas and K State were both unranked when Baylor played them. Won two OT games in the regular season Texas Tech and TCU (I think this was a pretty good season and would be ecstatic with the same results. with the Huskers. Just wish I knew how good the Big12 was that year)
I think his record shows he has trouble beating ranking teams and he has done nothing to disprove this during his time with the Huskers.
When we hired Rhule, I dug into his 2019 season heavily and there were a ton of warning signs. My thread on the original rivals forum was not received well by the koolaid club, but it has been 100% true.
For one, the combined record of his opponents was sub .500, and he had multiple squeaker games against teams with losing records (triple OT against 7 loss TCU and 1 score wins against 9 loss Rice, 7 loss West Virginia)
That was an incredibly weak year for the Big 12, and is a total outlier on his resume.
Rhule took over Frost's mess, Riley took over for teams that were winning 9 games a year.
I would get very happy if we could just return to the 9 wins seasons.
I would get very happy if we could just return to the 9 wins seasons.
Agree. Dana seems to approach this job like a sugar addict who's been given the keys to the candy store or as a good friend said to me it's like he's playing with house money, have a little fun/see what happens, get paid, wash/rinse/repeat.
Right?? I remember that being the cry!
He STILL has guys from his teams playing in the NFL.
No clue how to find it on this board. It was under my original handle “Thall” titled something like “a closer look at Rhule’s 11-3 season”
no doubt @Headcard remembers because he became super emotional over the course of many pages and assured me Rhule was the next Nick Saban
How many blowouts would Bo's teams had had in 2021? Frost's teams competed well with some very good teams. I appreciate Bo's ability to beat bad teams, and he did it well, but was equally horrible in games that mattered, if not worse than Frost, at least from an optics standpoint.
"Games that mattered"
SOOOOO stupid.
You know why Bo had so many "games that mattered"
BECAUSE HE WON A LOT OF GAMES
I love that he beat back to back ranked Okie State and Mizzo but for some reason, those games don't matter.
Look how pissed so many NU fans are this week after losing to Minny...was that a "game that mattered"???
SOOOOO stupid.
You know why Bo had so many "games that mattered"
BECAUSE HE WON A LOT OF GAMES
I love that he beat back to back ranked Okie State and Mizzo but for some reason, those games don't matter.
Look how pissed so many NU fans are this week after losing to Minny...was that a "game that mattered"???
I’ll get scorched by some for saying this but TOs involvement with the program post 2010ish hasn’t been for the good. Hiring Bo was the last good move he made.
Couldn’t agree more.
Then his “well he was just unlucky” comments after Scott Frost flamed out were borderline retarded.
We’re seeing the same thing with Bob Stoops at OU
What should TO be doing? He tried to tell Rhule to run the ball but Matt won’t listen
drinking tea and shıtting his pants like the other people his age
Sometimes, with legends, it is best to keep them around and pretend to listen to them...
Has he threatened to give up his box (again) yet? Will this be the 4th or 5th time he throws that fit?
463 sort of loves to run with rumors. He believes them all.
Tom Osborne giving up his stadium skybox, says Huskers should sell it
College Football Hall of Fame coach Tom Osborne is giving up his large skybox at Memorial Stadium, saying the Nebraska athletic department should sell it to someone else rather than have him continue to use it for free.
www.espn.com
And Tom admitted several times after Bo was fired that hiring Bo was a mistake. Bo didn’t have the mental make up to be the head coach at a major P4 program with all the BS that goes with it. He failed a Youngstown as well IMO largely because of his disdain for recruiting.
But he was a HC at a major P4 program for a long time and had a very good record. So it appears Tom was wrong.
He was doing it to raise moneyNot the first or the last time he told people in North stadium he would do it. He’s not a saint, no matter what people want to make excuses for. Legendary coach, horrid administrator. It doesn’t take many actual AD contacts (when you work with them) to talk about these things…. But believe what you want. I loved his comments at the time, he did it because he didn’t like not having a say. He’s human. Most of us would also be pissed. It’s really not that big of a stretch to believe, but you do youTom Osborne giving up his stadium skybox, says Huskers should sell it
College Football Hall of Fame coach Tom Osborne is giving up his large skybox at Memorial Stadium, saying the Nebraska athletic department should sell it to someone else rather than have him continue to use it for free.
Just saw the replay of the Hail Mary game against Northwestern. He had Abdullah, Westercamp, Armstrong etc. It took a Hail Mary to beat a crappy Northwestern team in our house…. Ameer was a beast in that game. Avery Moss had an interception for a TD in that game. We had just lost to Minnesota. Wisconsin just scored again on a jet sweep.
Tom made that comment IMO based on things other than Bo’s overall record. I supported Bo for a long time. Frankly I think they could have promoted Beck and had similar results at that point in time.
So now, if I understand this correctly.
We are now discussing the very good players that Bo had (and recruited) and how he won a lot of games...
But TO is still saying that Bo should not have been a P4 coach? Good lord.
Bo > Frost but I don't like the narrative that Rhule has had it so much harder than any other coach. If he doesn't hire Satt and Foley he could have had a 10-11 win team last year. He was basically handed the best recruit in Nebraska history out of luck and nepotism and to his credit, Tony was a great hire, who had some good dlineman who they inherited from Frost. Rhule had a chance at Nebraska for a few moments, up until he hired Satterfield. From that moment on, it was just a slow bleed for the fan base until Rhule is eventually fired.
Callahan recruited all those good players but they redshirted 7 times.
Or Callahan got their verbal commitments when they were in the 4th grade.
Or something like that.
And every Bo loss actually counts as 3 losses and none of his wins matter.
Bo was woefully lacking in the area some fans value most - the ability to pretend he's their buddy.
I never really thought Bo was great coach. But every hire NU has made since has gone a long way toward convincing me otherwise.