So did I and I have not watched the replays, you cant even contact the snapper
That is a fireable coaching decision
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The only thing I would have done different is we had 6 seconds left plenty of time to throw an out pattern to the sideline to get out of bounds to get closer. If not open throw it out of bounds with 2 to 1 second left.
I knew psu was overloading the middle as you could see it on every scrimmage kick. I will have to look at it and if they did contact the center then why were the hawk coaches yelling
We stuffed them on 4th down at the goal line. Huge play. Then DB Entringer lined up in the neutral zone giving them their first TD with a fresh set of downs.
That's a BAD play by a pretty reliable guy in Entringer. The Defense actually did their job pretty well with a short field there.
We had to replace 2 outstanding linebackers, and those replacements are the weakest link in our Defense, IMO.
And what about the previous 4th down where we missed 3 tackles short of line to gain?
Well I can tell you with 100% certainty PRIOR TO THE KICK, the first thing I said was "what in the HELL are we doing!". There were MULTIPLE things that could have been done, and Kirk being Kirk picked the worst one of those options.
Aside from the fact Penn State had back to back games with blocked punts, so they seem to have a knack for blocking kicks, and that % goes up with the low trajectory required to actually pull off a Christmas Miracle on a cold October night in Iowa.
IMO, the chances of that kick being blocked, was definitely higher than the chance of making it. Then it's a live ball and all hell CAN break loose from there, and as we saw, it did.
And of course it's a Big Ten game against a team with an interim Head Coach and a backup QB, and you're playing like **** but still leading at halftime. Now you've given them all the momentum going into the locker room, and they get the ball because of your first awful decision at the start of the game. Next thing you know we're down 21-10.
Amazing we were able to pull it out at the end, so kudos to Iowa's players for pulling Kirk's *** out of the fire. I don't think Kirk should be fired over it, mostly because he should have been fired several extensions prior to yesterday.
And if he throws an incomplete hail marry you’d all be pissed he didn’t try the fg.
My bad then. I guess they were going for it again either way. Entringer is a pretty solid player, but that was.........bad.
You think Gronowski can throw a ball that far? Maybe he can, but coIor me skeptical. Now granted, we're more likely to complete a Hail Mary than a straightforward 10-15 yard pass at any time of any game but......
You do realize there were many other things they could have done besides a Hail Mary or FG there right?
And if he throws an incomplete "hail marry" we would have still been leading at the half.
The FG block by PSU, they just destroyed that side of the o-line with their rush… they pushed the o-line back 3-5 yards off the LOS enabling that d-lineman to block the FG attempt. It was more about the o-line than the trajectory of the kick.
Agreed. And I definitely did not want him to get married at that point in the game. There's enough distractions for a QB as it is.
? Are you psychic? How do you know a hail marry doesn't get tipped and picked off at the line of scrimmage for a T.D. or fumbled for a scoop and score? The proper play would have been take a knee and go to the locker room. That would have caused the message board heros and boo birds to come out anyway.
And... How do either of you know it would be an incomplete pass? Assumption or hypothetical when they should have taken a knee and went into halftime.
I don't know it would be an incomplete pass. If you're saying that we should have taken a knee and gone into halftime, yes, I agree.
Attempt that FG 99 more times, nothing happens.Well I can tell you with 100% certainty PRIOR TO THE KICK, the first thing I said was "what in the HELL are we doing!". There were MULTIPLE things that could have been done, and Kirk being Kirk picked the worst one of those options.
Aside from the fact Penn State had back to back games with blocked punts, so they seem to have a knack for blocking kicks, and that % goes up with the low trajectory required to actually pull off a Christmas Miracle on a cold October night in Iowa.
IMO, the chances of that kick being blocked, was definitely higher than the chance of making it. Then it's a live ball and all hell CAN break loose from there, and as we saw, it did.
And of course it's a Big Ten game against a team with an interim Head Coach and a backup QB, and you're playing like **** but still leading at halftime. Now you've given them all the momentum going into the locker room, and they get the ball because of your first awful decision at the start of the game. Next thing you know we're down 21-10.
I don't think Kirk should be fired over it, mostly because he should have been fired several extensions prior to yesterday.
It's not the chances of it being blocked to making it,
it's the chances of it being blocked and returned for a TD, to that not happening.
So small.
Did PSU even have a guy back to catch it?
KF owned it and got emotional. At least he knew it was complete idiocy. And admitted it. Which is more than some fans will do. Which is mind boggling. But it is what it is with KF and Iowa.
It would have be
It would have been the longest kick in college football history! Please stop saying that it was a good idea. Penn st had already blocked a few kicks this year before this. So it wasn’t luck that they blocked it. We were trying to do something that HAS NEVER BEEN DONE in college football, a 66 yard kick. Just admit it was a terrible idea (like our coach said) and move on. It made winning the game much much harder because of it.
This decade, 60+ yrd field goal attempts have been good 22% of the time in the NFL.
It would have been 6th longest in college history.
Certainly not a good decision but he owned it after the game. Interesting there have been numerous posters question why he didn't try long kicks in the past vs. a punt. Fireable? Come on man.
If it was a 56 yd attempt, you guys would be like "dang what a fluke, just our luck" or "we need to block better", "special teams suck", etc.
But since it was 66 yds, that seems to change everything to you guys to 'stupid" or "fireable decision".
as if it's not bad luck anymore lol.
But since it was 66 yds, that seems to change everything to you guys to 'stupid" or "fireable decision".
as if it's not bad luck anymore lol.
Wasn’t terrible. I’m sure we could come up with a top 10 clock management screw up for Kirk that trumps this.
he’s still a hall of famer. No questions asked.
you could ***** about the decision of he didn’t own it. The line got killed on that play. Woods should be the one apologizing.
he’s still a hall of famer. No questions asked.
you could ***** about the decision of he didn’t own it. The line got killed on that play. Woods should be the one apologizing.
Why would you punt on 3rd and 2?
The worst part about the blocked FG is now KFz is going to be gun shy.
It's disturbing (well, slightly) how many judge the play call by its 1 in a 1,000 (bizarre-super-ricochet-and-perfect-bounce-to-a-running-defender) outcome. If he makes the kick, KF would be lauded for finally having enough aggression, letting a player with a super gift try to break a record and extend our lead. And if it just missed or was blocked and recovered for no score, all would be fine.
And using KF's over the top self-deprecating retrospect analysis as proof is silly. That's his nature. If Drew made it, or just missed he wouldn't have said one negative thing. He obviously didn't think it was a HORRIBLE call or he wouldn't have made it in the first place.
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He owned his mistake which is far more than most would have done. And in all likelihood if he would have went into the the half time not trying something the same members of the we can do better brigade would have been crying about being too conservative. My beef with the decision had more to do with the fact there would have maybe been a second of two left on the clock. Kick it 100 times again and it won't get blocked and run in for a touchdown.
If Kirk had instead taken a knee to end the first half, they'd say he turtled up.
Hmmmm. Maybe make sure that outside guys on both sides at least have someone lay a hand on them? If you watch the video the guy that got the ball was untouched because it looked like the Iowa blockers were heading downfield in case Drew missed the field goal short.
The Iowa player didn't block the PSU guy who scored, didn't really need to since he was coming around the outside and wouldn't get to the kick in time to block it.
The PSU guy who actually blocked the kick simply overpowered the Iowa blocker, pushed him back a few yards and got his hand up. That Iowa player was on his butt, so he clearly wasn't running down field.
Yes I know, it appears the PSU player who scored should have been blocked because of the .01% the defender would have the ball BOUNCE RIGHT UP TO HIS HANDS
And do we even know if PSU had a guy back to receive?
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