That is a fireable coaching decision

LetsGoHawks83

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Which dumb decision?

1. Electing to get the ball 1st, when the crowd and your defense could rattle the young QB from the jump?

2. Trying a 66 yards FG....even after seeing him 10 yards short on the free kick during the timeout?

3. Chasing points by going for 2 halfway through the 3rd, especially when your career 2pt conversion success rate has to be under 10%.

I'm sure there's more, those are just the ones that were obvious mistakes before he made the decision...

Had all week to think about taking the ball first too.
 
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Your letting the result (blocked for TD) determine your feelings on the action that preceded it (the kick).
It doesn't work like that.

I believe some of you plain folk (Fran) just call it hindsight is 20/20.

If you're gonna tell me you were clamoring to punt before the FG attempt because of the .08% chance of a block and TD return, you are so full of sh*t.
 

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Stevens definitely has the leg. He took an easy swing on the first one because he knew it was blown dead. Marshall Koehn did the same thing before drilling a 57 yarder against Pitt in 2015. Iowa State made a 63 yarder in a similar spot earlier this year.

A lot of people are using hindsight to criticize Kirk. It’s fair to question the decision, and many other decisions from tonight. But to say that it is a fireable offense is just wrong.
 
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Which dumb decision?

1. Electing to get the ball 1st, when the crowd and your defense could rattle the young QB from the jump?

2. Trying a 66 yards FG....even after seeing him 10 yards short on the free kick during the timeout?

3. Chasing points by going for 2 halfway through the 3rd, especially when your career 2pt conversion success rate has to be under 10%.

I'm sure there's more, those are just the ones that were obvious mistakes before he made the decision...

Had all week to think about taking the ball first too.
1. Correct. Really bad decision, especially after the Indiana game.

2. My goodness, he totally let up as he heard the whistle. (Go ahead and equate that to me saying his 2nd attempt would have been good if unblocked though)

3. Again, hindsight is 20/20. Thanks. 1 point gives us no advantage at that point in the game.
 
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Your letting the result (blocked for TD) determine your feelings on the action that preceded it (the kick).
It doesn't work like that.

I believe some of you plain folk (Fran) just call it hindsight is 20/20.

If you're gonna tell me you were clamoring to punt before the FG attempt because of the .08% chance of a block and TD return, you are so full of sh*t.

I was clamoring for a pass to the middle of the field (they were covering the sidelines). We only needed 3 yards for the first down.... 10 seconds... Clock stops for the first down, plenty of time to spike and try a FG, but if it's over 60, throw it deep.

I said at the time.... Why are we trying a 65 yard FG. It's a dumb call any day of the week.

Still not as dumb as taking the ball 1st against a first time starter in a hostile environment AND not as dumb as chasing points halfway through the 3rd and going for 2, especially with his garbage 2pt conversion rate.
 
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Your letting the result (blocked for TD) determine your feelings on the action that preceded it (the kick).
It doesn't work like that.

I believe some of you plain folk (Fran) just call it hindsight is 20/20.

If you're gonna tell me you were clamoring to punt before the FG attempt because of the .08% chance of a block and TD return, you are so full of sh*t.


In the thread linked below, AFTER THE FACT, everyone was posting that Iowa should have let Drew attempt the 66 yd field goal. And why is that? Because he has the leg to make it (and the chances of a hail mary are never good).

 

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1. Correct. Really bad decision, especially after the Indiana game.

2. My goodness, he totally let up as he heard the whistle. (Go ahead and equate that to me saying his 2nd attempt would have been good if unblocked though)

3. Again, hindsight is 20/20. Thanks. 1 point gives us no advantage at that point in the game.

HE WENT FOR 2 IN THE 3RD QUARTER TOO...

We scored and were down 5, so captain dipsh*t thought it was a good time (halfway through the 3rd) to chase points. Instead of just being down 4, knowing that if you score a TD later ... You'd be up 3 at that time.

Guess what, late in the 4th we scored a TD and WOULD have been up 3 with an extra point.... But we had to go for 2 AGAIN.

This is why you don't chase points that early. It's coaching 101.

Lucky for Kirk the defense saved him again. If PSU would have kicked a game winner, it's 100% on that decision
 

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Stop, he let up at the end and clearly didn't go through with a full strength kick.
Chrissakes.

Do it again next time.
The threat of a blocked kick returned for a TD should not a factor any more than normal.
Sure, the kick is gonna be lower, but that ain't a TD return 99/100 times.
I agree.

I think it's time for coach to move on, but not because of that call.

Didn't he kick tantamount to a 75 yarder when one of the kickoffs went through the upright tonight? Yes.

It took unreal luck for that to be a TD. The ball ricocheted off that arm like a perfect forward pass, and it had one bounce that was perfect right into the arms of a guy running for the opposite endzone. I doubt I'll ever see another like that again.

I wanted Drew to get the field goal record. The wind was at his back. I liked the aggressiveness. And I about filled my undies when I saw what happened, lol.
 

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Stevens definitely has the leg. He took an easy swing on the first one because he knew it was blown dead. Marshall Koehn did the same thing before drilling a 57 yarder against Pitt in 2015. Iowa State made a 63 yarder in a similar spot earlier this year.

A lot of people are using hindsight to criticize Kirk. It’s fair to question the decision, and many other decisions from tonight. But to say that it is a fireable offense is just wrong.
No coach is making that decision in any situation. It’s ludicrous. Only bad crap can happen given the shaky special teams this year. You saw he couldn’t hit it before.

Stop excusing incompetence. It’s embarrassing.
 

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No coach is making that decision in any situation. It’s ludicrous. Only bad crap can happen given the shaky special teams this year. You saw he couldn’t hit it before.

Stop excusing incompetence. It’s embarrassing.
when Iowa played Pitt... Marshall missed the field goal attempt when a timeout was called... came back and hit the 57 yarder.
its not the same when the whistle blows and when it doesn't.
 
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HE WENT FOR 2 IN THE 3RD QUARTER TOO...

We scored and were down 5, so captain dipsh*t thought it was a good time (halfway through the 3rd) to chase points. Instead of just being down 4, knowing that if you score a TD later ... You'd be up 3 at that time.

Guess what, late in the 4th we scored a TD and WOULD have been up 3 with an extra point.... But we had to go for 2 AGAIN.

This is why you don't chase points that early. It's coaching 101.
There it is again, hindsight is 20/20.

Instead of being down 4, knowing if you score a TD (something Iowa does a lot of lately, right?), you'd be up 3.

Or.

Go for 2, get down by 3, so you don't need a TD.

This isn't hard.

Now, the plays run? Head scratcher.
 
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The defense of KF when literally everyone with a brain understands it’s a dumb call…hell even he admitted it.

Iowa fans. Can we please stop accepting 6-7 win seasons and label KF a great coach for keeping Iowa consistent. When he’s actually costing Iowa victories.
 

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The defense of KF when literally everyone with a brain understands it’s a dumb call…hell even he admitted it.

Iowa fans. Can we please stop accepting 6-7 win seasons and label KF a great coach for keeping Iowa consistent. When he’s actually costing Iowa victories.
Why do you have to lie to try to make a point?

Might want to look up our average number of wins per season since the program was rebuilt.

But hey, don’t let those pesky facts get in the way of a good rant.
 

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It’s 1130pm now, Iowa won the game…you disappointed??
Enjoy each game for what it is. . Penn State has more /better football players than we do..and we still scored more points than them.
I’m always happy when we beat the Nittany Pooh Bears
 

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Even with nothing to lose, Kirk still can't fathom throwing the ball downfield.
 

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The defense of KF when literally everyone with a brain understands it’s a dumb call…hell even he admitted it.

Iowa fans. Can we please stop accepting 6-7 win seasons and label KF a great coach for keeping Iowa consistent. When he’s actually costing Iowa victories.
Sorry that Nebraska got rolled earlier today by the goofs. Wasting the rest of your night posing as a shitposting Iowa fan on a message board doesn't make up for it.
 

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HE WENT FOR 2 IN THE 3RD QUARTER TOO...

We scored and were down 5, so captain dipsh*t thought it was a good time (halfway through the 3rd) to chase points. Instead of just being down 4, knowing that if you score a TD later ... You'd be up 3 at that time.

Guess what, late in the 4th we scored a TD and WOULD have been up 3 with an extra point.... But we had to go for 2 AGAIN.

This is why you don't chase points that early. It's coaching 101.

Lucky for Kirk the defense saved him again. If PSU would have kicked a game winner, it's 100% on that decision
Are you really this dumb? Or is it just an act?
 
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Checking in after getting home from the bars, seems this is about the FG attempt end of half.

If you think that was a bad decision, frankly, you must be on fent.

If you have a kicker with the leg to make this you take that chance every time.scoring points in football is hard. If you have the chance to score you take it. Period.

I’ve been a lurker with this community since 2014 back in rivals, and this is literally the dumbest post I’ve ever seen - that is truly saying something. You should be offended, I am saying that you are truly one of the stupidest people on this planet OP.
 
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I actually believe it shouldn't have been done simply because it's not an end of game scenario to win the game. Kicking a 66-yard field goal requires a low trajectory regardless of leg strength, that brings the possibility of being blocked up significantly thus having a block return for touchdown. It's not like it's going for it on 4th down from the PSU 40, that's a normal gamble.

Just a very strange time for a coach that is extremely risk averse to elect to make a very high risk decision when it wasn't necessary. Combine that with the fact he never makes these kinds of decisions makes it a deep head scratcher and why I can see people calling him out. I'm not sure why people are disagreeing with that. 🤷
 
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Even with nothing to lose, Kirk still can't fathom throwing the ball downfield.
The inability of this team to have a downfield passing attack is on KF. It's his team.

But the in-game decisions to not try throwing the ball downfield is on Tim Lester (calls the plays) and MG (runs the plays) and the WRs's (need to get open).

Oh, and I think the Hawks had plenty to lose.
 
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Always easy to be critical (thats being nice) when a play goes wrong but then quiet as a mouse when a play go right.
Nah. You can’t rationalize that call. You just can’t. I was in a bar with half the fans drunk and they were in disbelief when he lined up to kick that FG. And incredulous when he decided to kick it again after seeing Drew didn’t have the distance. 10 other reasons it was an unfathomable call. No coach would do it. None.

Some fans need to stop giving KF a pass. It’s silly.
 

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Which decision, the 66 yard FG try? we have seen Drew knock 55 yarders thru the upright that hit 20 feet up the net. He has the leg.

The chances of a block are pretty low

What bothers me is that every PAT and FG kick we tried had a lot of penetration right up the middle. We might want to put our whole offensive line in there minus the center to keep the penetration down.

If you rewatch those kicks they could have all been blocked. I hope the special teams works hard on that because it is on tape now.
I thought jumping over the center was illegal.
 

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Punting on 4th and 1 on Nebraska’s 35 in 2012.

Playing for OT at Ohio State in 2009.

IMO
Hey, I drove all the way to Purdue with my son and one of his friends to watch one of the worst QB Christenson games, maybe in 2007. In that game the hawks had 4th down at midfield with like 3 seconds left in the first half and they were behind. Instead of trying a hail mary Kirk punted. I wanted to go to the car at that moment and drive back home but the boys calmed me down. I was like WTF!!!!

Oh yes those were very bad. I remember in the lousy 2012 season in the game at Indy the hawks were behind by maybe 3 pts, maybe 2 with about 3 minutes to go, maybe all their timeouts. They had about 4th and 2 at their own 30+ yard line and he punted. My gawd the season was a wipeout, if you go on 4th down and dont get it you hold them to a field goal try and are still within a TD of winning.

Yeah, I am with you and some of those decisions back in 2006 to early 2008 were very questionable if not bad. But then KF did his Houdini act and crushed it from mid-2008 to 2010 and 2011.
 
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The defense of KF when literally everyone with a brain understands it’s a dumb call…hell even he admitted it.

Iowa fans. Can we please stop accepting 6-7 win seasons and label KF a great coach for keeping Iowa consistent. When he’s actually costing Iowa victories.
We get it. You don't like Ferentz. Now STFU.
 
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