Worst case scenario for RU, actually. A power program with a great coach and not a terrible one. Ugh. This is Greg’s year to beat them!
OT: Franklin Canned!!!
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Who cares. They're not even ranked so far this season.
If the Pegulas are involved in the buyout, I’d argue the opposite. I hadn’t heard of them so I looked up a few articles. Their donations helped the Penn state hockey team go from club level to frozen four in a little over a decade. All speculation at this point but if they helped cover the buyout, I would say the athletic department is in good shape there
Penn State Frozen Four Run Paved by $100M Pegula Donation
Penn State’s men’s hockey team has reached its first Frozen Four with help from Buffalo Bills owners Terry and Kim Pegula.
www.sportico.com
That sarcastic joke went right over your head, didn’t it?
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When will you guys get it that no money ≠ no competitive wins.
Look at Colorado, BYU, Pitt. Then compare them to OSU, Georgia, Indiana.
The sport is rigged. It'd be better to take our small wins while we can than fire someone who's consistent and go back to being an FCS level team. You're not beating NFL ready athletes, top tier coaching and facilities, refs, and other funded teams activities with bottom tier revenue streams.
Alabama will always be dominant. PSU will never get over the hump. The money is just too much to beat.
Look at Colorado, BYU, Pitt. Then compare them to OSU, Georgia, Indiana.
The sport is rigged. It'd be better to take our small wins while we can than fire someone who's consistent and go back to being an FCS level team. You're not beating NFL ready athletes, top tier coaching and facilities, refs, and other funded teams activities with bottom tier revenue streams.
Alabama will always be dominant. PSU will never get over the hump. The money is just too much to beat.
Your response shows clearly you don’t understand how this works. “You don’t think”?
The only way our losing coach would ever get mentioned is if they were all drunk and suggested it just to get laughs. A+ programs don’t hire proven football losers.
If you say so. Joke is on Shelby. The “given his history there” thought seems unnecessary if he was only trying to be sarcastic.That’s sarcastic joke went right over your head, didn’t it?
Texted buddy who played at PSU in the 90’s and this is what he’s hearing.
Penn State alum D’Anton Lynn.
Defensive coordinator from USC but just rumor
lets make Greg part of every thread when another program does something.
What we should look at is: if Greg is so bad and disliked , paying him $23 million shouldn't be a drawback
if PSU can shell out $50 mil to give Franklin the boot.
Maybe it's the fanbases that make the Nits go for broke with their support while the RU fanbase claims to be broke when the program asks them for support.
Greg is a product of the lack of support and the type of HC that support can hire and can't get ride of because the support won't pay up
Franklin was the type of HC the Nits hire with the fans support and will dump when the fanbase realizes he's not going to do the job expected of him even though he has a great winning percentage .
Schano will not get Rutgers where its fanbase wants it to go, but won't be going anywhere because Schiano is a reflection of the RU fanbase, , just not good enough to win and will stay that way because winning is too expensive .
Franbklin is a reflection of the Nit fanbase , play to win and let nothing stop that , even if it means paying a bunch when dumping a winning coach because he did not win the games he was expected to.
Boo hoo it's Greg's fault Franklin was fired ,while Schiano's accomplisments aren't enough to want him
I get what you mean Shifty, just tired of seeing posts constantly implying Greg isn't good enough and knowing he probably be at RU until, probasnly , the end of the 2027-28 season because unlike Penn State, the money to dump an unwanted HC isn't there at RU like it is at PSU
I guess I won't be able to post this anymore.
Yup.
For a certain subset, never.
Yup.
For a certain subset, never.
Your response is predictable. Clearly the man pissed in your cornflakes at some point.
PSU has a lot of money and advantages. Franklin was the perfect HC to hold them back from reaching their potential. LOL! Not a good day for RU.
It’s true though. 100 coaches could turn them down and he still wouldn’t be on a list of the next 100.
My post was more about a program holding a coach to a standard.
Up until when Pres Tate and Keli Zinn were hired, the only standard Rutgers seemed to know was giving extensions and raises for mediocrity.
In case you have not noticed, Tate and Zinn came from a school that takes winning seriously.
Surprised. Pizzing away 50 million and the coach made the playoffs last year. That makes as much common sense as giving these long term contracts. Guess you only do that if you already have someone really good on the hook.
Firing Franklin for a first time HC seems risky if that’s true.
I’ve seen his name for UCLA but PSU is a different animal.
They looked good last night but were also run over by Illinois. He did a nice job in his one year as UCLA DC. At USC as DC…improved but some mixed performances. Good test coming up against ND, let’s see how they do away from home when they usually have more problems.
The standard is highly correlated to deep pocket donors.
Yea I would think they would aim a little higher. But who knows. Bring him into recruit and surround him with GM and serious staff. I didn’t think ND would stick with Freeman either.
Lost 3 in a row. canned. $56 million. Payout for Franklin.
Keli take note. Start working the bigger donors. After next season get a new HC who knows how to in game coach.
Keli take note. Start working the bigger donors. After next season get a new HC who knows how to in game coach.
Not true.The Penn State fan base kept filling the stadium after the Sandusky scandal.Happy Valley loves their footballl and wrestling programs.
I get it. But my point was who would have thought that the mighty ND would settle for a first time head coach insider or not. And Lynn is a Penn State football alimuni. Not exactly an “outsider”.
Mullen or Campbell from this list seem like good options.
Not sure how realistic other names like Kelly, Cignetti, Rhule are….possible playoff runs could be an issue as well.
Not sure how realistic other names like Kelly, Cignetti, Rhule are….possible playoff runs could be an issue as well.
Schiano?!?!?! No shot of being hired, no shot of being on a candidate list. He is more likely to be fired from RU than hired by PSU.
First: my opinion
Sandy Barbour might be next and she should have never been hired as AD
Before Penn State hired her , Barbour, having served as Cal’s athletic director from 2004 to 2014, i
Reason: While the Cal AD former UC Berkeley swimmer Jenna Rais alleged that Barbour failed to address her claim that she was sexually assaulted by Cal staff member Rais said she emailed Cal chancellor Robert Birgeneau and Barbour Rais received no response in 2010.
Just like Pervert State to hire someone that turns a blind eye towards complaints about perverts in their mist.
now for a nice article I want to share :
>What did Penn State get wrong? In hindsight, Penn State may have whistled past the graveyard in ignoring Jim Knowles's messy exit from Ohio State in their rush to pay him $3 million a year. But that wasn't close to the worst contract mistake of the Franklin era. That was, unquestionably, the 10-year, $75 million extension Penn State signed Franklin to at the end of the 2021 season. More specifically, that extension was announced Nov. 23, 2021, four days before the Lions lost to Michigan State to conclude a 7-5 regular season. It was as if AD Sandy Barbour saw the equally-mindless extension Mel Tucker had signed at Michigan State and wanted in on the fun.<
Sandy Barbour might be next and she should have never been hired as AD
Before Penn State hired her , Barbour, having served as Cal’s athletic director from 2004 to 2014, i
Reason: While the Cal AD former UC Berkeley swimmer Jenna Rais alleged that Barbour failed to address her claim that she was sexually assaulted by Cal staff member Rais said she emailed Cal chancellor Robert Birgeneau and Barbour Rais received no response in 2010.
Just like Pervert State to hire someone that turns a blind eye towards complaints about perverts in their mist.
now for a nice article I want to share :
>What did Penn State get wrong? In hindsight, Penn State may have whistled past the graveyard in ignoring Jim Knowles's messy exit from Ohio State in their rush to pay him $3 million a year. But that wasn't close to the worst contract mistake of the Franklin era. That was, unquestionably, the 10-year, $75 million extension Penn State signed Franklin to at the end of the 2021 season. More specifically, that extension was announced Nov. 23, 2021, four days before the Lions lost to Michigan State to conclude a 7-5 regular season. It was as if AD Sandy Barbour saw the equally-mindless extension Mel Tucker had signed at Michigan State and wanted in on the fun.<
I know he's has a tough year but he can probably do better than the Catamounts.
I noticed that and also understand that they come to a school that isn't put winning first.
LSU was all about winning since the Paul Dietzel "Chinese Bandits " days,
So Tate and Zinn had a fanbase they could work with to have a top program
Penn State was all about winning over anything and everything once Joe Paterno replaced Rip Engle.
Penn State has a fanbase that expects big wins because nothing else matters
I just was pointing out the Rutgers fanbase is the opposite of LSU & PSU.
I was just pointing out
Rutgers fans will *****, moan and complain about Schiano not being a good HC and needs to go
but unlike the PSU ($50mil) and LSU ( Ed Orgeron's $18.7 mil) fanbases the RU fanbase never finds enough funds to help dump the" bastard "
So it gets old seeing the Greg isn't as good as this bum fired messages just about every time a failure is fired.
In the eyes of Penn State fans Franklin failed and he's gone.
LSU fans felt Orgeron wasn't good enough and he was dumped
For both schools the fanbase support for school forced them to cann the coach.
Rutgers fan base doesn't put up the funds so RU can send Greg packing , but whines like it does.
Nothing personal, it's not just you but 90% (It seems) of TKR members who want Greg gone don;t adress that fact.
I wouldn't mind RU letting Schiano know : better do well the remainder of season, make the fanbase smile when bowl pairing are announced, or bye bye Greggie .
But I understand Rutgers won't do that because the fanbase won't help fund his ouster.
When the Flood era was here and the fanbase was against him , the rumor was that Julie tried to get boostes to help pay his buyout and that move didn't work out.
At LSU the money would be there, so despite coming from a program that knows how to win, Tate and Zinn must change RU's culture so it's willing to put up winning money and stop declaring bankruptcy
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She’s not the AD anymore. Pat Kraft is the PSU AD since 2022
if he is on their short list , I wonder if they'll pay Greg's exit fee
, which I believe he'd have to pay $1 mil to leave for the NitsI wonder if the school (UCLA) that helped send Franklin on his way might not be a good landing spot. His personality seems like it would work in LA. Cali is a good recruiting ground. Expectations aren’t as high as PSU or USC and the money saved on PSU’s dime can be used for staff or NIL. I could even see him keep Jerry N on board if the offense continues to flourish the rest of the year.