***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

Hawksfor3

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So, who is lying and who is telling the truth?


Engelbert:

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Unrivaled is competition for the WNBA, if I were wnba leadership or an owner I would want them to go away. If that means buying them out then that’s what I’d do. Either way they would not exist if I’m negotiating a new cba with the players union, and Bri Stewart and Phee wouldn’t be part of this conversation jor any conversations until they no longer have anything at stake with their rival league.

I keep hearing and reading that Kathy should step down as commissioner. Why would the owners want that to happen. Remember she works for them, right now it’s advantageous to have a combative attitude while negotiating. Plus Kathy can be used as leverage to sign a new cba. Example Kathy steps down, we’ll give you this.

TLDR version: the wnba is sprinting towards a lockout heads down and into that brick wall. There are to many contentious issues and by the sounds of it they aren’t close. It’s honestly a completely wnba move to strike right as they finally get some momentum. They continually cut of their face to spite their nose.
 
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Unrivaled is competition for the WNBA, if I were wnba leadership or an owner I would want them to go away. If that means buying them out then that’s what I’d do. Either way they would not exist if I’m negotiating a new cba with the players union, and Bri Stewart and Phee wouldn’t be part of this conversation jor any conversations until they no longer have anything at stake with their rival league.

I keep hearing and reading that Kathy should step down as commissioner. Why would the owners want that to happen. Remember she works for them, right now it’s advantageous to have a combative attitude while negotiating. Plus Kathy can be used as leverage to sign a new cba. Example Kathy steps down, we’ll give you this.

TLDR version: the wnba is sprinting towards a lockout heads down and into that brick wall. There are to many contentious issues and by the sounds of it they aren’t close. It’s honestly a completely wnba move to strike right as they finally get some momentum. They continually cut of their face to spite their nose.
The whole unrivaled thing is so bad. Yes, it's competition, but it's 3 on 3, can you imagine a 3 on 3 men's league in the Summer after playing an 82 game schedule? And I agree about Stewart and Phee having stake in the rival league. However, I do believe Englebert said some of the stupid sh$$ she's been accused of saying. And I think we all agree the officiating is awful and it's been awful forever. I just can't see how she survives this mess.
 
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I just don’t believe that Collier invented or otherwise intentionally distorted her conversation with Engelbert. I’ll wait for the staff interviews once she leaves office.
 
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Hawksfor3

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Unrivaled is competition for the WNBA, if I were wnba leadership or an owner I would want them to go away. If that means buying them out then that’s what I’d do. Either way they would not exist if I’m negotiating a new cba with the players union, and Bri Stewart and Phee wouldn’t be part of this conversation jor any conversations until they no longer have anything at stake with their rival league.

I keep hearing and reading that Kathy should step down as commissioner. Why would the owners want that to happen. Remember she works for them, right now it’s advantageous to have a combative attitude while negotiating. Plus Kathy can be used as leverage to sign a new cba. Example Kathy steps down, we’ll give you this.

TLDR version: the wnba is sprinting towards a lockout heads down and into that brick wall. There are to many contentious issues and by the sounds of it they aren’t close. It’s honestly a completely wnba move to strike right as they finally get some momentum. They continually cut of their face to spite their nose.
As for buying out the Unrivaled League, I don't think Adam Silver would approve that. He's been the financier of the WNBA for years, and the "W" has never turned a profit.
 

Hawkfan1986

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As for buying out the Unrivaled League, I don't think Adam Silver would approve that. He's been the financier of the WNBA for years, and the "W" has never turned a profit.
All the more reason to buy them out, or ensure in some other way that league doesn’t exist. It is in the W’s best interest to not have their star players play in a “rival” league. Do you think any team owner likes the idea of their players potentially getting hurt during the offseason.
The whole unrivaled thing is so bad. Yes, it's competition, but it's 3 on 3, can you imagine a 3 on 3 men's league in the Summer after playing an 82 game schedule? And I agree about Stewart and Phee having stake in the rival league. However, I do believe Englebert said some of the stupid sh$$ she's been accused of saying. And I think we all agree the officiating is awful and it's been awful forever. I just can't see how she survives this mess.
1. No I can’t imagine that because the players in the NBA aren’t allowed to do anything like that, it’s written in their contracts.

2. I also believe Englebert said the things that she’s accused of saying. That said, it’s still in the leagues best interest to not begin new CBA talks with a new commish. Will she be around next year, no chance in hell. There will be in a new commish before the start of next season.
 

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Very interesting Game 3.

Aces were up 17 going into the 4th and Phoenix has made it a 1 point game with 3 minutes to go.
 

WDSMHawk

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Now Bonner is torching Meg down the stretch to tie the game with a minute left
 

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SIAP where Fever are interested in signing Kate Martin. Not sure if this has been mentioned.
 

Franisdaman

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Imagine if the Fever had won deciding game 5 (that went to OT) in the semi-finals vs the Aces.

Makes you wonder how many tweaks the Fever really need to win it all next season.