The Maryland Man

dpic73

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Bout time!!! He should of just went back to El Salvador. FAFO!!!


You sure do get excited about making the rest of the world hate and mistrust us. Shame on this administration and anyone who supports it.

 

baltimorened

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You sure do get excited about making the rest of the world hate and mistrust us. Shame on this administration and anyone who supports it.

I'd be interested to see how much money the federal government has spent on this single individual who has been on a deportation order for years
 

TigerGrowls

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Insane. They need to mass fire most judges imo. Commie leftists are bankrolling this one no doubt.



MARYLAND MAN? Days after another “final” deportation order, an Obama judge blocked MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s removal and ordered a new hearing. Since illegally entering the US, 20 judges, from immigration courts to SCOTUS, have heard his case, with Democrat NGOs and lawmakers backing him. How much due process is too much?
 

PalmettoTiger1

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You sure do get excited about making the rest of the world hate and mistrust us. Shame on this administration and anyone who supports it.


LOVIN THIS ADMINISTRATION

I DON’T WANT LESS OF TRUMP AND MAGA

I WANT MORE
 

baltimorened

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He got his due process. You happy now? Can we deport him? 🙄
I might be wrong, but as I understand it, Abrego Garcia has the right to appeal the last decision. I don't think he got any special treatment- in this instance.
 

MTTiger19

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I might be wrong, but as I understand it, Abrego Garcia has the right to appeal the last decision. I don't think he got any special treatment- in this instance.
Well by all means let’s make sure he receives the white glove treatment. Don’t want any of my liberal pals getting wrecked over his rights. Gotta keep those illegal, child trafficking, gangbangers safe.
 
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MTTiger19

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If that is what the proceedings rule, sure.

I was mainly just poking fun at one of the more embarrassing things I've seen, and I was an adult for the Biden administration.
Yea I thought it was embarrassing watching grown men fawn over an illegal alieb gangbangers rights but to each his own.
 

UrHuckleberry

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Yea I thought it was embarrassing watching grown men fawn over an illegal alieb gangbangers rights but to each his own.
Don't think I've fawned over anyone, but a fully grown adult looking at those tattoo pictures with the M S 1 3 clearly added on and not understanding they were not the actual tattoos but rather intended to be a "key" of sorts is one of the silliest things I've seen. It's ok to agree and still think he should be deported.
 
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bdgan

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He got his due process. You happy now? Can we deport him? 🙄
It seems to me that if you're here illegally you should be subject to deportation. The problem is when we let them stay pending a hearing they are given legal status. That could be a couple of years and if they're denied they can drag it our longer with an appeal.

In Garcia's case he didn't qualify for asylum because he didn't file a request within the required time. So the suspected MS 13 member appealed because gangs back in El Salvadore would kill him. Then he appealed deportation to other countries for the same reason. These things can go on forever at tremendous cost to the government. Illegal immigrant advocates who support this are essentially saying that we shouldn't be allowed to enforce our laws.
 

UrHuckleberry

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It seems to me that if you're here illegally you should be subject to deportation. The problem is when we let them stay pending a hearing they are given legal status. That could be a couple of years and if they're denied they can drag it our longer with an appeal.

In Garcia's case he didn't qualify for asylum because he didn't file a request within the required time. So the suspected MS 13 member appealed because gangs back in El Salvadore would kill him. Then he appealed deportation to other countries for the same reason. These things can go on forever at tremendous cost to the government. Illegal immigrant advocates who support this are essentially saying that we shouldn't be allowed to enforce our laws.
I am fully down for a bipartisan immigration reform.
 
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bdgan

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I am fully down for a bipartisan immigration reform.
What's the compromise? It seems to me that illegal is illegal.

The only thing I might agree to is increasing the number of people we allow into this country legally and some sort of path for those who are already here. But to me if you want to apply for asylum you present yourself at a legal port of entry and you wait outside the country while you case is being heard.
 
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UrHuckleberry

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What's the compromise? It seems to me that illegal is illegal.

The only thing I might agree to is increasing the number of people we allow into this country legally and some sort of path for those who are already here. But to me if you want to apply for asylum you present yourself at a legal port of entry and you wait outside the country while you case is being heard.
I mean, you described a lot of legal things that take time, and described services/legal descriptions, etc that are all legal issues that could be in bills. For a start, the last bill that was proposed put significant money and man power to speeding up all that process, get more judges etc, to get people hearings faster.

Edit to add: honestly, a lot of what Trump is doing would've been easier and quicker had the bill passed.
 
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baltimorened

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I am fully down for a bipartisan immigration reform.
who isn't. It's just the definition of "immigration reform". For example I'm all for allowing undocumented folks, not on the state dole, stay if they have a job, pay taxes and have no criminal records. They can have a work Visa, but no citizenship. If they want citizenship they go to back of line and follow all the rules relative to obtaining citizenship. Give Dreamer Visas to stay. If parents are undocumented same rules as above apply.

But democrats and likely some republicans won't agree. democrats want path to citizenship. Republican won't accept that. We already see the Democrats position on deportations, republicans won't accept Democrats positions. And it goes on from there.
 

UrHuckleberry

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who isn't. It's just the definition of "immigration reform". For example I'm all for allowing undocumented folks, not on the state dole, stay if they have a job, pay taxes and have no criminal records. They can have a work Visa, but no citizenship. If they want citizenship they go to back of line and follow all the rules relative to obtaining citizenship. Give Dreamer Visas to stay. If parents are undocumented same rules as above apply.

But democrats and likely some republicans won't agree. democrats want path to citizenship. Republican won't accept that. We already see the Democrats position on deportations, republicans won't accept Democrats positions. And it goes on from there.
I mean, all elected officials apparently. Seems both sides just want to run on the issue.
 

Allornothing

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I mean, you described a lot of legal things that take time, and described services/legal descriptions, etc that are all legal issues that could be in bills. For a start, the last bill that was proposed put significant money and man power to speeding up all that process, get more judges etc, to get people hearings faster.

Edit to add: honestly, a lot of what Trump is doing would've been easier and quicker had the bill passed.
All the while letting in 5,000 more folks a day.
 

yoshi121374

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What's funny is that he has repeatedly said he would be fine with deportation to Costa Rica who have promised they won't send him to El Salvador, but the US won't do that.

The only reason that they won't is they want to punish him?

 
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bdgan

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Seems he still could do what he is doing now but with more agents, more judges, etc.
I don't think so. Just think how much time and expense we're incurring with the Maryland Man who never even applied for asylum until after he was caught.
  • 15 million asylum trials
  • 8 million appeals
  • chasing down people who are denied asylum but refuse to leave
I'd starve them out with strict enforcement of e-verify and elimination of all government benefits. They'll leave on their own if they can't work and they can't collect benefits.
 

yoshi121374

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I don't think so. Just think how much time and expense we're incurring with the Maryland Man who never even applied for asylum until after he was caught.
  • 15 million asylum trials
  • 8 million appeals
  • chasing down people who are denied asylum but refuse to leave
I'd starve them out with strict enforcement of e-verify and elimination of all government benefits. They'll leave on their own if they can't work and they can't collect benefits.

So why in the world won't the admin deport him to Costa Rica as he has requested?

They are insisting on sending him to a small African Nation across the world.

Make that make sense.
 
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UrHuckleberry

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I don't think so. Just think how much time and expense we're incurring with the Maryland Man who never even applied for asylum until after he was caught.
  • 15 million asylum trials
  • 8 million appeals
  • chasing down people who are denied asylum but refuse to leave
I'd starve them out with strict enforcement of e-verify and elimination of all government benefits. They'll leave on their own if they can't work and they can't collect benefits.
Sure, all of that could be part of a bill.
 

Allornothing

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What's funny is that he has repeatedly said he would be fine with deportation to Costa Rica who have promised they won't send him to El Salvador, but the US won't do that.

The only reason that they won't is they want to punish him?

"he would be fine with deportation to Costa Rica who have promised they won't send him to El Salvador, but the US won't do that."

So now we let criminals determine their punishment?

You/I are convicted of a crime, but we get to dictate the terms.
 

yoshi121374

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"he would be fine with deportation to Costa Rica who have promised they won't send him to El Salvador, but the US won't do that."

So now we let criminals determine their punishment?

You/I are convicted of a crime, but we get to dictate the terms.

We want to deport him.
He is scared of going to El Salvador.
He has stated he will willingly go to Costa Rica.

We have to punish him?

Just seems like the government is trying to punish him for embarrassing them.
 

Allornothing

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We want to deport him.
He is scared of going to El Salvador.
He has stated he will willingly go to Costa Rica.

We have to punish him?

Just seems like the government is trying to punish him for embarrassing them.
We have to punish him?

Isn't that part of committing a crime?

He is scared of going to El Salvador. He didn't think about that before he committed the crime.

DAMN you people are stupid.
 

yoshi121374

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We have to punish him?

Isn't that part of committing a crime?

He is scared of going to El Salvador. He didn't think about that before he committed the crime.

DAMN you people are stupid.

He came here to avoid death in El Salvador.

Maybe have some empathy.

I'm also not stupid and would appreciate you not being an *******. I'm trying to have an adult discussion. If you're not capable maybe you should sit this out.
 
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dpic73

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So why in the world won't the admin deport him to Costa Rica as he has requested?

They are insisting on sending him to a small African Nation across the world.

Make that make sense.
Cruelty, plain and simple. Uganda might even be less safe than El Salvador but that's the whole point with this administration.

I saw Trump's former attorney, Ty Cobb, being interviewed last night and he said there needs to be a tribunal for his cabinet members when this is all over - I wholeheartedly agree.
 
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baltimorened

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I mean, agreed.
see, we're not too far apart in our thinking. We disagree on some things and agree on others. That's the American way

And just think, we can have back and forths without calling each other names or pulling somewhat ridiculous accusations out out of the air. Make the board a much better place IMO
 
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Clemblack

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We want to deport him.
He is scared of going to El Salvador.
He has stated he will willingly go to Costa Rica.

We have to punish him?

Just seems like the government is trying to punish him for embarrassing them.


^^ thinks we should let Maryland man call his own shots ^^


Nah, we good. go to Uganda.